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Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

I didn't really think much of most of the early OL prospects were that special in this most recent draft. I had hopes 1 player would fall to 43 but he went, I think, 32.
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Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.
Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by 9moon:
Originally posted by DRCHOWDER:

Judgement Season for Keevoh !!!

I doubt McKivitz is a 9er in 2026.

He could get big money elsewhere, but that would be a huge loss. Just a huge gamble to expect to keep replacing guys when Oline guys are scarce as it is. I wonder if they anticipated this. My guess is yes because there are no viable tackles ready to step up now and considering they are very particular about Oline they draft, they dont rely on future drafts.

They want him to leave for huge money ... then they get a 3rd round pick for him.
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

I didn't really think much of most of the early OL prospects were that special in this most recent draft. I had hopes 1 player would fall to 43 but he went, I think, 32.

I think youy're talking about Josh Simmons. He's a guy that probably would have been the first tackle off the board if he hadn't suffered a severe patellar tendon injury. Taking him in the first round is a big gamble but it could pay off big. He might need an entire tear before he regains his form.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.

So ... you would rather they not have Trent?

It's clear the 49ers plan is to pay 1 star per position group. They weren't going to pay the bigger deals to Trent Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore, or Aaron Banks. So they are going to find a cheap free agent, a draft pick, or a UDFA who is a clear upgrade on a player on the line, and give the valuable roster spots to Foerster to develop. The fact that he has the Assistant Head Coach title also indicates they put some priority on the position.

The problem isn't that they don't put a priority on the OL, it's that they don't do it the way YOU want them to.

Who would you have drafted this last draft to the OL that would make you happy?
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

I didn't really think much of most of the early OL prospects were that special in this most recent draft. I had hopes 1 player would fall to 43 but he went, I think, 32.

I think youy're talking about Josh Simmons. He's a guy that probably would have been the first tackle off the board if he hadn't suffered a severe patellar tendon injury. Taking him in the first round is a big gamble but it could pay off big. He might need an entire tear before he regains his form.

Yep. He was my favorite OT in the draft and I hoped he would make it to the 2nd and maybe the Niners could trade up to grab him. But if the 49ers HAD drafted him this thread wouldn't be all that different, it would just be about how he was never going to be healthy and it was a bad pick.
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.

So ... you would rather they not have Trent?

It's clear the 49ers plan is to pay 1 star per position group. They weren't going to pay the bigger deals to Trent Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore, or Aaron Banks. So they are going to find a cheap free agent, a draft pick, or a UDFA who is a clear upgrade on a player on the line, and give the valuable roster spots to Foerster to develop. The fact that he has the Assistant Head Coach title also indicates they put some priority on the position.

The problem isn't that they don't put a priority on the OL, it's that they don't do it the way YOU want them to.

Who would you have drafted this last draft to the OL that would make you happy?

I am not chasing anecdotal examples.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.

So ... you would rather they not have Trent?

It's clear the 49ers plan is to pay 1 star per position group. They weren't going to pay the bigger deals to Trent Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore, or Aaron Banks. So they are going to find a cheap free agent, a draft pick, or a UDFA who is a clear upgrade on a player on the line, and give the valuable roster spots to Foerster to develop. The fact that he has the Assistant Head Coach title also indicates they put some priority on the position.

The problem isn't that they don't put a priority on the OL, it's that they don't do it the way YOU want them to.

Who would you have drafted this last draft to the OL that would make you happy?

I am not chasing anecdotal examples.

So you want them to do something and are upset they didn't but you have no idea what that something should have been?
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.

So ... you would rather they not have Trent?

It's clear the 49ers plan is to pay 1 star per position group. They weren't going to pay the bigger deals to Trent Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore, or Aaron Banks. So they are going to find a cheap free agent, a draft pick, or a UDFA who is a clear upgrade on a player on the line, and give the valuable roster spots to Foerster to develop. The fact that he has the Assistant Head Coach title also indicates they put some priority on the position.

The problem isn't that they don't put a priority on the OL, it's that they don't do it the way YOU want them to.

Who would you have drafted this last draft to the OL that would make you happy?

I am not chasing anecdotal examples.

So you want them to do something and are upset they didn't but you have no idea what that something should have been?

That something is called prioritize the OL.
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.

So ... you would rather they not have Trent?

It's clear the 49ers plan is to pay 1 star per position group. They weren't going to pay the bigger deals to Trent Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore, or Aaron Banks. So they are going to find a cheap free agent, a draft pick, or a UDFA who is a clear upgrade on a player on the line, and give the valuable roster spots to Foerster to develop. The fact that he has the Assistant Head Coach title also indicates they put some priority on the position.

The problem isn't that they don't put a priority on the OL, it's that they don't do it the way YOU want them to.

Who would you have drafted this last draft to the OL that would make you happy?

I am not chasing anecdotal examples.

So you want them to do something and are upset they didn't but you have no idea what that something should have been?

That something is called prioritize the OL.

That is as dumb as "if you see something say something". If you have no idea what they are doing wrong how do you know they are doing something wrong?
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.

So ... you would rather they not have Trent?

It's clear the 49ers plan is to pay 1 star per position group. They weren't going to pay the bigger deals to Trent Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore, or Aaron Banks. So they are going to find a cheap free agent, a draft pick, or a UDFA who is a clear upgrade on a player on the line, and give the valuable roster spots to Foerster to develop. The fact that he has the Assistant Head Coach title also indicates they put some priority on the position.

The problem isn't that they don't put a priority on the OL, it's that they don't do it the way YOU want them to.

Who would you have drafted this last draft to the OL that would make you happy?

I am not chasing anecdotal examples.

So you want them to do something and are upset they didn't but you have no idea what that something should have been?

That something is called prioritize the OL.

That is as dumb as "if you see something say something". If you have no idea what they are doing wrong how do you know they are doing something wrong?


Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.

So ... you would rather they not have Trent?

It's clear the 49ers plan is to pay 1 star per position group. They weren't going to pay the bigger deals to Trent Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore, or Aaron Banks. So they are going to find a cheap free agent, a draft pick, or a UDFA who is a clear upgrade on a player on the line, and give the valuable roster spots to Foerster to develop. The fact that he has the Assistant Head Coach title also indicates they put some priority on the position.

The problem isn't that they don't put a priority on the OL, it's that they don't do it the way YOU want them to.

Who would you have drafted this last draft to the OL that would make you happy?

I am not chasing anecdotal examples.

So you want them to do something and are upset they didn't but you have no idea what that something should have been?

That something is called prioritize the OL.

That is as dumb as "if you see something say something". If you have no idea what they are doing wrong how do you know they are doing something wrong?

Dumb? Its well documented already,
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.

So ... you would rather they not have Trent?

It's clear the 49ers plan is to pay 1 star per position group. They weren't going to pay the bigger deals to Trent Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore, or Aaron Banks. So they are going to find a cheap free agent, a draft pick, or a UDFA who is a clear upgrade on a player on the line, and give the valuable roster spots to Foerster to develop. The fact that he has the Assistant Head Coach title also indicates they put some priority on the position.

The problem isn't that they don't put a priority on the OL, it's that they don't do it the way YOU want them to.

Who would you have drafted this last draft to the OL that would make you happy?

I am not chasing anecdotal examples.

So you want them to do something and are upset they didn't but you have no idea what that something should have been?

That something is called prioritize the OL.

That is as dumb as "if you see something say something". If you have no idea what they are doing wrong how do you know they are doing something wrong?


Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Scoots:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by CatchMaster80:
Originally posted by TD49ers:
Originally posted by Bringbackedjr:
Solid is not how I would describe the oline but what is Kyle supposed to say…

He doesnt need to say anything. Anyone can see the lack of attention the OL gets in the draft and free agency compared to other positional groups.The OL coach has done a great job in coaching less talented players, this is the message. Everyone knows Mckivitz, Brendel, Burford ceiling in low. They are average at their pinnacle and down hill from there. Bartch plays one good game and all of a sudden he is the concensus starter. Bad memories and rosy colored glasses seems to be the way. So who starts when TW misses games.....this OL is bÿ far the weakest positional group.

The O line is always an issue for most teams. Very few have what coukd be called a great O line. Nearly every team always goes into the draft looking for a top tier tackle or in some cases a center. There aren't many available each year so the few that are go really quick. The Niners haven't been in position very often to get one of the top guys. This season they needed D line help so they went after it. There weren't a lot of good O linemen. Most teams were drafting Oline help in the later rounds.

This is exactly what I mean.

The twisting and turning justifying past decisions. Just say its not a priority.

The player getting the 3rd most per year to play LT in the NFL is on the 49ers. That certainly seems like they put SOME priority on the OL.

Proving my point.

So ... you would rather they not have Trent?

It's clear the 49ers plan is to pay 1 star per position group. They weren't going to pay the bigger deals to Trent Brown, Laken Tomlinson, Mike McGlinchey, Jaylon Moore, or Aaron Banks. So they are going to find a cheap free agent, a draft pick, or a UDFA who is a clear upgrade on a player on the line, and give the valuable roster spots to Foerster to develop. The fact that he has the Assistant Head Coach title also indicates they put some priority on the position.

The problem isn't that they don't put a priority on the OL, it's that they don't do it the way YOU want them to.

Who would you have drafted this last draft to the OL that would make you happy?

I am not chasing anecdotal examples.

So you want them to do something and are upset they didn't but you have no idea what that something should have been?

That something is called prioritize the OL.

That is as dumb as "if you see something say something". If you have no idea what they are doing wrong how do you know they are doing something wrong?

Dumb? Its well documented already,

So you have a solution, but it's somewhere else and can't be summarized here?
lol, guys please!

This conversation will be much more interesting in 12 month's time, when early pick options are available. I don't think the OL will get quite the emphasis that the DL got this year but I will certainly be incredibly pissed off if it gets ignored.
Originally posted by English:
lol, guys please!

This conversation will be much more interesting in 12 month's time, when early pick options are available. I don't think the OL will get quite the emphasis that the DL got this year but I will certainly be incredibly pissed off if it gets ignored.

But that's the problem. Do you think they should reach for a player just because it's their pick or should they take the player they think is best for the team?

I don't think any of the OL available at 11 or 43 were better for this 49ers team than Williams and Collins. It's possible that if Simmons had fallen to 43 they might have taken him (and people here would have lost their minds that they took him despite him being an OT).

Assistant Head Coach Foerster straight up said he didn't think the team should invest early draft picks on the OL because the value wasn't there.

People forget that the beginning of the 49ers dynasty under Walsh spent just 3 picks in the first 3 rounds on OL in the entire time Walsh was GM. But somehow now it's somehow irresponsible for this regime to not be spending more early picks on the OL. In fewer years how many picks in the first 3 rounds has the current regime spent on the OL? 3. So MORE often than Walsh did.

This whole idea that they are not putting enough emphasis on the OL ... it just doesn't hold up.
[ Edited by Scoots on Jul 26, 2025 at 6:04 AM ]
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