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The backup OL is atrocious. There isn't a single guy I would trust to step into a regular season game. Maybe Manning can become a decent backup, but there's little hope for the rest, especially Moore and Zakelj, who get bullied on every snap.

Edit. Typo.
[ Edited by BYisGod on Aug 20, 2023 at 7:21 AM ]
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Yeah the backups were rough out there. They were rough on the broncos too so there seems to be a lack of quality OL throughout the league
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Yeah the backups were rough out there. They were rough on the broncos too so there seems to be a lack of quality OL throughout the league

It's rough everywhere. Even the best teams in terms of talent have maybe 6 OL.
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Originally posted by brodiebluebanaszak:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by LasVegasWally:
Manning gets some good mentions from Foerster

https://www.49erswebzone.com/articles/170860-transcript-chris-foerster-talks-o-line-ahead-49ers-broncos-preseason/

Hope he is a diamond in the rough. I remember Sapaulu looking a bit like Manning when he played center. Hope we see more of him in the Denver game. We need depth at the OLine to protect the franchise's Purdy Big 🐔 .

Good call!

Derrick Deese was another tough-as-nails guy who showed up like Jesse too.

Randy Cross, Ayers, Farnhorst etc.. we've had some great OLinemen on those Dynasty years. Guy MacKintyre was another one. All of them athletic, all of them very durable. Personally, between Durability and Talent, I think I'd take durability over talent. Having said that, I do want talent on that OLIne. Specifically, agility, quickness and a good mind -- not necessarily a guy with overpowering strength like Trent Williams, although I'd love to have 8 Trent Williams on our team.

Mckittrick spoiled us.

Agree 💯%, spoiled us rotten. Some of the fan base... I just go Wow! you know...
The positive news is McKivitz looked solid. 2 pressures (throw away and BCB scramble to the 1)? But solid in RB too. Looks a tad slow but hustles.

I saw a bit of the Steelers game and they have waves of pass rush so week 1 is going to be a monster test not only for the OL but the entire unit PP (looking at you TDP).
[ Edited by NCommand on Aug 20, 2023 at 1:21 PM ]
This is what I have and Moore, Feliciano and Pryor have all played like ass. Scary.

LT: Trent Williams; Jaylon Moore
LG: Aaron Banks; Ilm Manning
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor
OL played well this game i though in terms of not allowing pressure the penalties though was an issue
you know whats funny i was browsin through a lot of fan forums winners and losers list

I don't think I found a single team that was happy with their 2nd team OL
Originally posted by NCommand:
The positive news is McKivitz looked solid. 2 pressures (throw away and BCB scramble to the 1)? But solid in RB too. Looks a tad slow but hustles.

I saw a bit of the Steelers game and they have waves of pass rush so week 1 is going to be a monster test not only for the OL but the entire unit PP (looking at you TDP).

I hope to God we never have TDP in on meaningful pass snaps where he is expected to block.
Originally posted by ritz126:
you know whats funny i was browsin through a lot of fan forums winners and losers list

I don't think I found a single team that was happy with their 2nd team OL

There isn't
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Originally posted by NCommand:
This is what I have and Moore, Feliciano and Pryor have all played like ass. Scary.

LT: Trent Williams; Jaylon Moore
LG: Aaron Banks; Ilm Manning
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor

I'm hoping they get better as the season goes on. It's good that you think Colton is a serviceable right guard this season. I hope he keeps playing like it.

Again, Durability is key. Even if they have Tom Compton-level talent, if they stay durable, healthy, and play -- they can get better over time because of the reps with each other and the reflexes honed with the increase in playing time. They can more easily pick up those stunts and do more difficult combo blocks. Colton, if he stays healthy, could be at Jake Brendel's level by the end of the season, we shall see.
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is what I have and Moore, Feliciano and Pryor have all played like ass. Scary.

LT: Trent Williams; Jaylon Moore
LG: Aaron Banks; Ilm Manning
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor

Watson and Manning need to make it over Moore. He hasn't improved much from his first season. Honestly though, I'm hoping we can find someone decent off of waivers after cut day or maybe even trade a 6th-7th to grab a small upgrade.
Originally posted by 9ers4eva:
Originally posted by ritz126:
you know whats funny i was browsin through a lot of fan forums winners and losers list

I don't think I found a single team that was happy with their 2nd team OL

There isn't

Makes me wonder wth happened with college since back in the day it seemed you could find/develop good o-lineman fairly easy.
Originally posted by frenchmov:
Originally posted by NCommand:
The positive news is McKivitz looked solid. 2 pressures (throw away and BCB scramble to the 1)? But solid in RB too. Looks a tad slow but hustles.

I saw a bit of the Steelers game and they have waves of pass rush so week 1 is going to be a monster test not only for the OL but the entire unit PP (looking at you TDP).

I hope to God we never have TDP in on meaningful pass snaps where he is expected to block.

No joke. That's a scary proposition. The fact that he ran with the 1's with Brock's first live snaps scared me. He whiffed and fell down on the insta-sack. Like Gray, all it takes is a defender to fall on you wrong.
Originally posted by Giedi:
Originally posted by NCommand:
This is what I have and Moore, Feliciano and Pryor have all played like ass. Scary.

LT: Trent Williams; Jaylon Moore
LG: Aaron Banks; Ilm Manning
C: Jake Brendel
RG: Spencer Burford; Jon Feliciano
RT: Colton McKivitz; Matt Pryor

I'm hoping they get better as the season goes on. It's good that you think Colton is a serviceable right guard this season. I hope he keeps playing like it.

Again, Durability is key. Even if they have Tom Compton-level talent, if they stay durable, healthy, and play -- they can get better over time because of the reps with each other and the reflexes honed with the increase in playing time. They can more easily pick up those stunts and do more difficult combo blocks. Colton, if he stays healthy, could be at Jake Brendel's level by the end of the season, we shall see.

Yeah, we'll just have to see how it goes. Week 1 is going to be a monster test in unit PP.
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