What does JT need to accomplish to return as HC in 2016/17? | Page 5

slowriot · 2015-02-11T13:06:55-08:00

I posed this question in the 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread and thought it was worth polling. Even though I'm sure JY and TB feel they've got their guy and want to keep him around for the long term, I feel like anything less than a winning season in 2015/16 would make it very difficult to justify keeping him around for 2016/17... Jed's made it clear that anything less than a Super Bowl victory is unacceptable for this franchise - so I think this is what it takes for JT to remain for three years: Year 1: Winning record. Year 2: Deep playoff run. Year 3: Super Bowl victory. Anything less and we're looking for a new HC.

Feb 11, 2015 at 5:55 PM

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Originally posted by slowriot:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Depends on if they play consistent and efficient. That holds a lot more meaning than running up the score on the Jags but then getting held to 1-13 on the 3rd downs in the NFC Championship game.

If you think our offense was good, then you'd still want the OC here that was running it?(Roman)

No, I do think the offense needs to improve and believe it was time for Roman to move on. I'm not sure Chryst (Roman's QB coach) is the man for the job though and wish JH and the defensive staff didn't have to go just to make it happen.

Im not sure Chryst is the answer either, but I don't think it can be much worse than what we saw last year.

I wanted us to do the same thing, bring in a new offensive staff and keep Harbaugh and the defensive staff intact for atleast one more year. But, Harbaugh had his faults too. And if everything is true about his lack of preparation, and wanting to coach the game by "feel," than in the end we would always come up short.

[ Edited by InsertNameHere on Feb 11, 2015 at 6:03 PM ]

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:02 PM

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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I not sure Chryst is the answer either, but I don't think it can be much worse than what we saw last year.

I wanted us to do the same thing, bring in a new offensive staff and keep Harbaugh and the defensive staff intact for atleast one more year. But, Harbaugh had his faults too. And if everything is true about his lack of preparation, and wanting to coach the game by "feel," than in the end we would always come up short.

I hope you're right. Or, perhaps more accurately, I hope JY and TB are right!

I would really like to see a more relaxed and confident CK next season. A lot depends on whether Logan can have a significant and positive impact on Kap's development.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:06 PM

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Originally posted by ChipDouglas510:
He would have to bomb horribly to be fired after his first season IMO, I don't see it happening.

Would you consider 7-9 or worse bombing horribly?

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:06 PM

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The way our team works is you get 3-4 years before you make yorkie cry and he lets you go...no matter what happens.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:09 PM

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Originally posted by slowriot:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I not sure Chryst is the answer either, but I don't think it can be much worse than what we saw last year.

I wanted us to do the same thing, bring in a new offensive staff and keep Harbaugh and the defensive staff intact for atleast one more year. But, Harbaugh had his faults too. And if everything is true about his lack of preparation, and wanting to coach the game by "feel," than in the end we would always come up short.

I hope you're right. Or, perhaps more accurately, I hope JY and TB are right!

I would really like to see a more relaxed and confident CK next season. A lot depends on whether Logan can have a significant and positive impact on Kap's development.

I think it'll be a lot easier for Kaepernick to get in rhythm once he's not "handcuffed" by sporadic play-calling. Also, if he can get running early, he seems to "be in the game" a lot more.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:19 PM

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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I think it'll be a lot easier for Kaepernick to get in rhythm once he's not "handcuffed" by sporadic play-calling. Also, if he can get running early, he seems to "be in the game" a lot more.

More play action and roll outs should work well for him. I think Carlos Hyde will really excel in that style of offense as well.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:21 PM

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Originally posted by Young2Rice:
The way our team works is you get 3-4 years before you make yorkie cry and he lets you go...no matter what happens.

If Singletary can survive for two seasons, then JT probably has a pretty long leash.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:21 PM

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Yes, Mr. Baalke. Yes, Mr. York.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:24 PM

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Originally posted by 60sFan:
Yes, Mr. Baalke. Yes, Mr. York.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:25 PM

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7-9 would get him another year, anything below that and I think he's gone, regardless.

I'd think you would have to fire him if he doesn't win at least 7. What would the team think. You fire Harbaugh after 3 NFC Championship games and one 8-8 season, to bring on someone that doesn't at least match his worse season.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:29 PM

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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
7-9 would get him another year, anything below that and I think he's gone, regardless.

I'd think you would have to fire him if he doesn't win at least 7. What would the team think. You fire Harbaugh after 3 NFC Championship games and one 8-8 season, to bring on someone that doesn't at least match his worse season.

It would definitely be a hard sell for York. The fan base are itching for a Lombardi after coming so close these last few years, so a losing season while hosting the Super Bowl in a shiny new stadium would not go down well.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:29 PM

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Originally posted by slowriot:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I think it'll be a lot easier for Kaepernick to get in rhythm once he's not "handcuffed" by sporadic play-calling. Also, if he can get running early, he seems to "be in the game" a lot more.

More play action and roll outs should work well for him. I think Carlos Hyde will really excel in that style of offense as well.

Thats his game there, roll outs and playaction, but we didn't see much of either last year.

What do you think Hyde's celling is? Top 5.....

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:30 PM

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Lets call him Jimmy T or just Tomsula.

"JT" always makes me think of J.T. O'Sullivan.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:39 PM

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Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
Thats his game there, roll outs and playaction, but we didn't see much of either last year.

What do you think Hyde's celling is? Top 5.....

I'd like to think he could be a top 5 back.. I expect he'll probably end up splitting carries with Hunter and a draft pick though.

Feb 11, 2015 at 6:40 PM

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Originally posted by Niners99:
Lets call him Jimmy T or just Tomsula.

"JT" always makes me think of J.T. O'Sullivan.

Haha, how about we just forget Mr O'Sullivan ever stepped foot on Candlestick.