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What do you think about Julian Edelman said about Steve Young?
Feb 3, 2015 at 8:45 AM
- Tman
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I'm back to hating the patriots again
Feb 3, 2015 at 8:45 AM
- crake49
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Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Ok, so you DO know that Joe doesn't really wear all of his rings at the same time, right? Only does that for commercials. I would wager he has a favorite. And I'm sure that Steve has a favorite. Doesn't mean he feels he doesn't deserve the other ones.
Montana has said more than a few times that his favorite was the second Bengals game with the late-game winning drive.
Feb 3, 2015 at 8:49 AM
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Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Ok, so you DO know that Joe doesn't really wear all of his rings at the same time, right? Only does that for commercials. I would wager he has a favorite. And I'm sure that Steve has a favorite. Doesn't mean he feels he doesn't deserve the other ones.
Montana has said more than a few times that his favorite was the second Bengals game with the late-game winning drive.
my favorite one was the first one, cuz it was the first one. each step we took was a step we had never taken before. we all had long hair and were just so young. a bunch of no names, running back by committee, only a couple of vets like hacksaw and freddie. four rookies in the secondary. it was the best one ever!!
Feb 3, 2015 at 8:53 AM
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Originally posted by crake49:
They covered the Montana-Young decision in "A Football Life - Bill Walsh." When the Niners were sitting there at 6-5 in 1988 coming off a horrible loss to the Raiders, Walsh had a meeting with his staff and asked for suggestions. Walsh had been going back and forth with Young and Montana all season and when it came time for Holmgren to speak up, he said he thought they needed more stability at the QB position and the coaches should decide on one of them and go with him. Walsh got angry and immediately left the room. He came back to the room a few minutes later after regaining his composure and said, "we'll go with Montana." He made Montana the undisputed starter for the rest of the season, Montana was energized, and they went on a streak to end the season and get into the playoffs.
have you ever read the book that came out two years ago,, joe vs steve.. wow that is some book,, big tell all about those days,, the locker room was divided, the coaches would impotent, young and rice used an eager media to drive their respective points on how they should be starting,,,, its the best niner book i have ever read, and that tops ronnie lotts excellent book he had out years ago. i love steve but should have stuck with joe then groomed bono in my opinion. I was like alot of spoiled niner fans back then.. hated young for losing the nfc title games to the cowboys. the cciowa person back then was not to be reasoned with , along with most of the very very spoiled fan base back then
Feb 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM
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Originally posted by cciowa:Originally posted by crake49:Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:Ok, so you DO know that Joe doesn't really wear all of his rings at the same time, right? Only does that for commercials. I would wager he has a favorite. And I'm sure that Steve has a favorite. Doesn't mean he feels he doesn't deserve the other ones.
Montana has said more than a few times that his favorite was the second Bengals game with the late-game winning drive.
my favorite one was the first one, cuz it was the first one. each step we took was a step we had never taken before. we all had long hair and were just so young. a bunch of no names, running back by committee, only a couple of vets like hacksaw and freddie. four rookies in the secondary. it was the best one ever!!
My favorite was '89 because we went up against the leagues best defense and set new records against them. So much talk about what Brady just did against the leagues top D, but I saw no records set. Debate over.
Feb 3, 2015 at 8:54 AM
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Originally posted by cciowa:sorry, meant to say young and montana
Originally posted by crake49:
They covered the Montana-Young decision in "A Football Life - Bill Walsh." When the Niners were sitting there at 6-5 in 1988 coming off a horrible loss to the Raiders, Walsh had a meeting with his staff and asked for suggestions. Walsh had been going back and forth with Young and Montana all season and when it came time for Holmgren to speak up, he said he thought they needed more stability at the QB position and the coaches should decide on one of them and go with him. Walsh got angry and immediately left the room. He came back to the room a few minutes later after regaining his composure and said, "we'll go with Montana." He made Montana the undisputed starter for the rest of the season, Montana was energized, and they went on a streak to end the season and get into the playoffs.
have you ever read the book that came out two years ago,, joe vs steve.. wow that is some book,, big tell all about those days,, the locker room was divided, the coaches would impotent, young and rice used an eager media to drive their respective points on how they should be starting,,,, its the best niner book i have ever read, and that tops ronnie lotts excellent book he had out years ago. i love steve but should have stuck with joe then groomed bono in my opinion. I was like alot of spoiled niner fans back then.. hated young for losing the nfc title games to the cowboys. the cciowa person back then was not to be reasoned with , along with most of the very very spoiled fan base back then
Feb 3, 2015 at 8:57 AM
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Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:i often think of the best most complete niner team, kind of close with that team and the 84 team that beat miami. to close to call, could not live on the difference. its funny that those teams were never given any respect by anyone. remember the pre super bowl blather that we would not be able to contain awesome marino? after a couple of minor heat attacks i had with the no huddle in the first half we made him and them one dimensional
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Ok, so you DO know that Joe doesn't really wear all of his rings at the same time, right? Only does that for commercials. I would wager he has a favorite. And I'm sure that Steve has a favorite. Doesn't mean he feels he doesn't deserve the other ones.
Montana has said more than a few times that his favorite was the second Bengals game with the late-game winning drive.
my favorite one was the first one, cuz it was the first one. each step we took was a step we had never taken before. we all had long hair and were just so young. a bunch of no names, running back by committee, only a couple of vets like hacksaw and freddie. four rookies in the secondary. it was the best one ever!!
My favorite was '89 because we went up against the leagues best defense and set new records against them. So much talk about what Brady just did against the leagues top D, but I saw no records set. Debate over.
Feb 3, 2015 at 9:02 AM
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Hard to pick the best ever Niner team between 84, 89 and 94. Ironically, the 87 team was the one that led the league in both offense and defense. One and done.
Feb 3, 2015 at 9:02 AM
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Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by genus49:
Technically Steve Young won 3 SB rings.
Thank you. The Niners don't even GET to the Super Bowl in 1988 without Young's epic TD scramble against the Vikings.
And then Young messed the bed against the Cardinals and the Raiders the next two following weeks sending the 9ers from a 6-3 to a 6-5 record. Montana returned after that and the team went on a winning streak and into the playoffs.
Feb 3, 2015 at 9:05 AM
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Originally posted by cciowa:i often think of the best most complete niner team, kind of close with that team and the 84 team that beat miami. to close to call, could not live on the difference. its funny that those teams were never given any respect by anyone. remember the pre super bowl blather that we would not be able to contain awesome marino? after a couple of minor heat attacks i had with the no huddle in the first half we made him and them one dimensionalOriginally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:Originally posted by cciowa:Originally posted by crake49:Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:Ok, so you DO know that Joe doesn't really wear all of his rings at the same time, right? Only does that for commercials. I would wager he has a favorite. And I'm sure that Steve has a favorite. Doesn't mean he feels he doesn't deserve the other ones.
Montana has said more than a few times that his favorite was the second Bengals game with the late-game winning drive.
my favorite one was the first one, cuz it was the first one. each step we took was a step we had never taken before. we all had long hair and were just so young. a bunch of no names, running back by committee, only a couple of vets like hacksaw and freddie. four rookies in the secondary. it was the best one ever!!
My favorite was '89 because we went up against the leagues best defense and set new records against them. So much talk about what Brady just did against the leagues top D, but I saw no records set. Debate over.
Teams themselves too close to call, but I prefer '89 because they had Jerry. That tips the scales. '81 always holds a special place because it was what made me a NINER fan. Hope I'll get to see another,
Feb 3, 2015 at 9:12 AM
- crake49
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Originally posted by JoeisGod:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by genus49:
Technically Steve Young won 3 SB rings.
Thank you. The Niners don't even GET to the Super Bowl in 1988 without Young's epic TD scramble against the Vikings.
And then Young messed the bed against the Cardinals and the Raiders the next two following weeks sending the 9ers from a 6-3 to a 6-5 record. Montana returned after that and the team went on a winning streak and into the playoffs.
That's actually not what happened. Montana started and played the Raider game. He was 16/31 with no TD's and no Ints for a grand total of 160 yards that day against the Raiders. And the Cardinals game was hardly Young's deal. He and the Niner offense built up a 23-0 lead and the Cardinals came all the way back to win 24-23 in the final seconds of the game.
Feb 3, 2015 at 9:12 AM
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Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by insanemike27:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Originally posted by insanemike27:
I'm not arguing with the last quote you typed, the potential was definitely there. From what I recall Bill Walsh couldn't decide on a QB for most of that season. He kept rotating them and the offense got out of sync. When Walsh finally decided on his starting QB... well, the rest is history.
He couldn't decide because Joe was beat up but still wanted to play. Healthy Joe = no decision.
Are you sure about that? That's not quite the impression I got from some of walsh's statements about the subject. I may have to dig them up out of my Niner stash. I do know Joe was hurt off and on throughout that season. I can only imagine Walsh's desire to unleash a mobile, left handed QB on the NFL and change the way DC's defended his offense.
Hope this helps.
http://articles.latimes.com/1988-11-12/sports/sp-662_1_joe-montana/2
I see your article and I raise you this video
http://theninerempire.com/bill-walsh-a-football-life-part-7/
[ Edited by insanemike27 on Feb 3, 2015 at 9:14 AM ]
Feb 3, 2015 at 9:14 AM
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Originally posted by LasVegasWally:Serious, who cares about HOF-vote or not if it comes down to a controversial opinion? I do understand this "comparison" if it were some armchair-QB here who would have stated the same as Edelman, though even then it comes down to the evaluation of the content and not the status, but Edelman is certainly not a nobody in this league. He is a proven receiver and Steve Young as a "journalist" is full potato and he deserves to be contradicted at times.
Not much from a guy who hasn't had a great career about a guy who had one.
How many Pro Bowls had Edleman gone to AND he'll NEVER even sniff a HOF vote.
[ Edited by communist on Feb 3, 2015 at 9:15 AM ]
Feb 3, 2015 at 9:31 AM
- thl408
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The guy was not thinking clearly.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/02/bill-belichick-julian-edelman-concussion-super-bowl
Edelman appeared disorientedafter the play, and several plays later he seemed to have difficulty getting up after an incomplete pass. Edelman was available for post-game interviews, but would not comment on his possible injury.
http://www.si.com/nfl/2015/02/02/bill-belichick-julian-edelman-concussion-super-bowl
Edelman appeared disorientedafter the play, and several plays later he seemed to have difficulty getting up after an incomplete pass. Edelman was available for post-game interviews, but would not comment on his possible injury.
Feb 3, 2015 at 9:38 AM
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Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:understand.. the 84 team was something else with the addition of fred dean and roger craig. i loved freddie soloman. kind of weird cuz we traded one of my favorite players in delvin williams for him which made me cry at the time. trust me, if you would have been around in 84 the pre game blather, the lack of respect and the media slobbering over marino would have made you spit up. you know our team has ALWAYS been at their best when its us vs the world. people rooted against us cuz they loved marino and then when we had the superior team like 89 and 94 they rooted against us cuz they were sick of us
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:i often think of the best most complete niner team, kind of close with that team and the 84 team that beat miami. to close to call, could not live on the difference. its funny that those teams were never given any respect by anyone. remember the pre super bowl blather that we would not be able to contain awesome marino? after a couple of minor heat attacks i had with the no huddle in the first half we made him and them one dimensional
Originally posted by cciowa:
Originally posted by crake49:
Originally posted by ronniefreakinlott42:
Ok, so you DO know that Joe doesn't really wear all of his rings at the same time, right? Only does that for commercials. I would wager he has a favorite. And I'm sure that Steve has a favorite. Doesn't mean he feels he doesn't deserve the other ones.
Montana has said more than a few times that his favorite was the second Bengals game with the late-game winning drive.
my favorite one was the first one, cuz it was the first one. each step we took was a step we had never taken before. we all had long hair and were just so young. a bunch of no names, running back by committee, only a couple of vets like hacksaw and freddie. four rookies in the secondary. it was the best one ever!!
My favorite was '89 because we went up against the leagues best defense and set new records against them. So much talk about what Brady just did against the leagues top D, but I saw no records set. Debate over.
Teams themselves too close to call, but I prefer '89 because they had Jerry. That tips the scales. '81 always holds a special place because it was what made me a NINER fan. Hope I'll get to see another,