The 49ers 2015 Coaching Staff Thread

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by WRATHman44:
A lot of people the ZBS with improving pass protection, because the OL in a ZBS tend to be lighter and more agile. I think it goes beyond that. In the ZBS, OL are constantly protecting an area and passing off defenders to he line-mate they are zoning with. They have to adjust on the fly to shifting fronts, unexpected pressures, and the defense's response to our backfield action. It's a lot to process, but they do it habitually on every run play. I believe that practice prepares them to pass protect as a unit, rather than as a series of individual players who are responsible for individual matchups. Most of our most egregious errors in pass protection were due to poor responses to line stunts and blitzing. I can't tell you how many times I screamed at the tv when Iupati opened a huge gap in the pocket by casing his stunting DL around the front of our line.

Whoops, got off track there. The point is, if we are running zone frequently, our OL is adjusting to stunts in pairs all the time, so they are adjusting their mindset to collaborative protection, which I believe translates to pass pro, resulting in less run-throughs and quick pressure.

This was part of my question about football intelligence...when you see Boone stand at the RG position looking right while a LBer runs by his left shoulder...why did he not keep his head on a swivel?

Zone won't necessarily eliminate this, but it may help keep guys focused. It requires more practice and a closer group dynamic than man and I've read that it needs to be used extensively in order to stay in sync...not something you can do part time.

I would agree with this. The 49ers tend to run 2-6 zone plays per game, and they weren't great at it, because it requires a different mindset than the gap/power scheme they usually run. It's not easy for a RB to switch between schemes, either, as the reads are a lot different.

Good point WRATH. I agree that a zone blocking run scheme would indirectly help with pass blocking, mainly blitz pickup, as it trains the Oline to adjust on the fly. On top of that, if the 49ers start to draft Olinemen that are slated to excel in a ZBS, then those same physical traits such as agile feet will help with pass pro. It appears as though Baalke has drafted as such with MMartin and BThomas. Hyde came from a ZBS in college. Chris Foerster excels at ZBS. All the signs are there.

Great points guys...other players too such as Luke Marquardt (?), Chris Martin, Fou Fonoti, Andrew Tiller, Joe Looney (good pulling G), Dillon Farrell and Daniel Kilgore (best served in the ZBS?). I'm curious to see what types of players Baalke bring in this draft along the OL. It should say a whole lot about the type of scheme we'll run.

How do we go from having a good coaching staff (with the exception of Roman) to having a staff nobody else in this league would even consider.
Man REALLY? Geep Chryst & Eric Mangini our top dogs for both offense & defense. I just hope we have enough talent on both sides of the ball that play calling wont be a issue. I feel like Tomsula is being set up to fail with this coaching staff. I hope i am wrong but i dont see us being successful with this staff.

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
How do we go from having a good coaching staff (with the exception of Roman) to having a staff nobody else in this league would even consider.
Man REALLY? Geep Chryst & Eric Mangini our top dogs for both offense & defense. I just hope we have enough talent on both sides of the ball that play calling wont be a issue. I feel like Tomsula is being set up to fail with this coaching staff. I hope i am wrong but i dont see us being successful with this staff.

The staff is actually first rate, with the caveat that the HC is inexperienced and will need to prove himself. I'm not wild about the coordinators but they are experienced and know the team. Logan, Sparano and Foerster are all improvements for the offense and that will be a key to performance...not necessarily Chryst by himself. Chryst and Logan making calls during the game can't be worse than the former system/people.

If Tomsula falls flat on his face the front office may need to go after a more powerful HC who will demand more control. That could be a disaster as well. Let's hope for the best!

List of things for the 49er coaching staff to do at the combine.

Adam Henry----interview Dorial Green-Beckham

Jim Tomsula----work out the defensive linemen, interview Carl Davis, Xavier Cooper, Mario Edwards, and Derrick Lott.

Tom Rathman----work out the running backs, interview David Johnson and John Crockett.

edit: the combine will be the coaching staff's first major step in player evaluation. task.

focus on the job at hand, work as a team, and ignore all the intrusive media noise.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
The staff is actually first rate, with the caveat that the HC is inexperienced and will need to prove himself. I'm not wild about the coordinators but they are experienced and know the team. Logan, Sparano and Foerster are all improvements for the offense and that will be a key to performance...not necessarily Chryst by himself. Chryst and Logan making calls during the game can't be worse than the former system/people.

If Tomsula falls flat on his face the front office may need to go after a more powerful HC who will demand more control. That could be a disaster as well. Let's hope for the best!

Not sure how you have come to that conclusion unless to you things were so bad anyone has to be better...

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
The staff is actually first rate, with the caveat that the HC is inexperienced and will need to prove himself. I'm not wild about the coordinators but they are experienced and know the team. Logan, Sparano and Foerster are all improvements for the offense and that will be a key to performance...not necessarily Chryst by himself. Chryst and Logan making calls during the game can't be worse than the former system/people.

If Tomsula falls flat on his face the front office may need to go after a more powerful HC who will demand more control. That could be a disaster as well. Let's hope for the best!

Not sure how you have come to that conclusion unless to you things were so bad anyone has to be better...

I think Sparano will be an improvement at tight ends coach.
I think that Foerster should prove to an improvement at offensive line coach.
And Logan could be a better quarterbacks coach.

But those are just my opinions. I will have to wait for the games to be played before I can begin to draw conclusions.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

The staff is actually first rate, with the caveat that the HC is inexperienced and will need to prove himself. I'm not wild about the coordinators but they are experienced and know the team. Logan, Sparano and Foerster are all improvements for the offense and that will be a key to performance...not necessarily Chryst by himself. Chryst and Logan making calls during the game can't be worse than the former system/people.

If Tomsula falls flat on his face the front office may need to go after a more powerful HC who will demand more control. That could be a disaster as well. Let's hope for the best!

Not sure how you have come to that conclusion unless to you things were so bad anyone has to be better...

Are you serious? Sparano is a very good OL coach, meaning he is vastly overqualified as a TE coach. Logan has developed QBs everywhere he's ever been. QBs have had their best years under him. Foerster is regarded as one of the best (if not THE best) ZBS coaches in the game, specializing in stretch plays. He struggled here because Nolan and Sinlgetary are idiots on offense. Nolan hired him because he's a good OL coach, but forced him to run a gap scheme. That's like hiring Mike Shanahan as your OC and making him run the Coryell offense.

Originally posted by WRATHman44:

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by dtg_9er:
The staff is actually first rate, with the caveat that the HC is inexperienced and will need to prove himself. I'm not wild about the coordinators but they are experienced and know the team. Logan, Sparano and Foerster are all improvements for the offense and that will be a key to performance...not necessarily Chryst by himself. Chryst and Logan making calls during the game can't be worse than the former system/people.

If Tomsula falls flat on his face the front office may need to go after a more powerful HC who will demand more control. That could be a disaster as well. Let's hope for the best!

Not sure how you have come to that conclusion unless to you things were so bad anyone has to be better...

Are you serious? Sparano is a very good OL coach, meaning he is vastly overqualified as a TE coach. Logan has developed QBs everywhere he's ever been. QBs have had their best years under him. Foerster is regarded as one of the best (if not THE best) ZBS coaches in the game, specializing in stretch plays. He struggled here because Nolan and Sinlgetary are idiots on offense. Nolan hired him because he's a good OL coach, but forced him to run a gap scheme. That's like hiring Mike Shanahan as your OC and making him run the Coryell offense.

Don't know how you could argue the point:

OC: Chryst =/> Roman (if you assume Chryst was part of the problem he is no better or worse than Roman)
OL: Foerster > Solari (plus several other coaches have OL experience)
QB: Logan > Chryst (will no doubt help with the WRs as well as play calling)
WR: Henry > Morton (sight unseen, based on success elsewhere where he actually developed talent)
TE: Sparano > Mangini

Plus, many of these guys have great experience coaching other positions or being coordinators, which should help them blend together and help each other.

If I am not mistaken, Baalke has made it clear that selection of players is going to be a team effort.

Adding Gamble back into the mix strengthens the player personnel department.

Adding Adam Henry as the wide receive coach should help the 49ers both drafting and developing wide receivers.

Very glad that we seem to have upgraded at wide receiver coach.

I don't know much about the WR coach. Is he going to be an upgrade over Morton?

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I don't know much about the WR coach. Is he going to be an upgrade over Morton?

Everyone is a upgrade over Morton.

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I don't know much about the WR coach. Is he going to be an upgrade over Morton?

I think that he will be, but who really knows at this point.

Morton did not seem to do very well developing our wide receivers.

Adam Henry seemed to do very well at LSU, but we have to see.

Adrian, great post 2 pages back, a stinging indictment of harbaw, done exceedingly well. You said all that was needed to be said. I am beginning to believe that just like the squeaky wheel that gets the grease, a very vocal , very pro harbaw crowd is out there...who are exceedingly small in number. How anyone can objectively look at all 4 yrs, 2 coulda had SBs, and the last abysmal 18 mos of harbaw et al, and not see need for change....well, they are there, but I just think they are a) LOUD, and
b) VERY FEW.

Again, great post.

Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Adrian, great post 2 pages back, a stinging indictment of harbaw, done exceedingly well. You said all that was needed to be said. I am beginning to believe that just like the squeaky wheel that gets the grease, a very vocal , very pro harbaw crowd is out there...who are exceedingly small in number. How anyone can objectively look at all 4 yrs, 2 coulda had SBs, and the last abysmal 18 mos of harbaw et al, and not see need for change....well, they are there, but I just think they are a) LOUD, and
b) VERY FEW.

Again, great post.

Harbaugh essentially agreed with the interviewer who pointed out that he tends to seek chaos because he feels that he tends to navigate chaos better than those around him, giving him an edge over others, who respond to chaos with more typical apprehension and caution or panic. TK (pre-firing) often postulated that Harbaugh causes chaos to create a competetive advantage for himself.

That brings up two questions:

1) If Harbaugh is the only person who looks forward to chaos, why do so many VOCAL 49er fans believe he was innocent of stirring up any of the sh!t around this team in the 2014 season?

2) If he thrives in chaos, and this season was chaotic, then why did we suck so bad?

Originally posted by buck:

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
I don't know much about the WR coach. Is he going to be an upgrade over Morton?

I think that he will be, but who really knows at this point.

Morton did not seem to do very well developing our wide receivers.

Adam Henry seemed to do very well at LSU, but we have to see.

I haven't been on here lately so I didn't even know where he came from.

Besides the Rookie from NY, Who else has he helped develop that's any good?

Originally posted by leakyfausett:
Everyone is a upgrade over Morton.

Sadly I'll have to agree with you there, Morton seemed to be pretty s**tty at developing talent.