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Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
How did Rogers & Brown do under Tarver?
Rogers was hurt all season and I think Brown didn't finish the season.
Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Matt Maiocco @MaioccoCSN 45s45 seconds ago
Those who are citing stats from Raiders with Jason Tarver as DC, rest assured. He would not be bringing those players with him.
Damn stats always getting in the way of players and coaches being great. We should just get rid of them!
Well, to be honest, coaching the Raiders for the last couple of yeas is playing nightmare mode. For those non gamers; that's a couple notches above hard mode.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by Geeked:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by slowriot:
Matt Maiocco @MaioccoCSN 45s45 seconds ago
Those who are citing stats from Raiders with Jason Tarver as DC, rest assured. He would not be bringing those players with him.
Damn stats always getting in the way of players and coaches being great. We should just get rid of them!
Well, to be honest, coaching the Raiders for the last couple of yeas is playing nightmare mode. For those non gamers; that's a couple notches above hard mode.
The question is why is he even WITH the Raiders to begin with. LOL
Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
just something that interests me. Donatell/Fangio was able to maximize their potential and make them look like solid NFL players, but they of course didn't do anything on the raiders. Yes, we surely have a lot more talent on our team, but I'm convinced a lot of it was due to coaching
Originally posted by Geeked:Well, to be honest, coaching the Raiders for the last couple of yeas is playing nightmare mode. For those non gamers; that's a couple notches above hard mode.
Originally posted by niner4life21:
Bow, Borland, Pat
Aldon, Williams, Dorsey, Lynch ( Cowboy probably retires, right?)
Carradine, Brooks, and Dial coming off the bench along with other draftees/FAs...
Seems pretty dominant to me.
Originally posted by dald1:
Yeah not like he exactly impressed the league, pretty sure the defense finished the bottom of the barrel so he's def a step up from vic ? York doesn't know what the hell he's doing and its apparent
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by dald1:
Yeah not like he exactly impressed the league, pretty sure the defense finished the bottom of the barrel so he's def a step up from vic ? York doesn't know what the hell he's doing and its apparent
Keep in mind that before he came to the 49ers, Fangio was known for having had some truly bad defenses and having his defenses get worse after each season. He was by no means seen as a "homerun" at DC.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:Keep in mind that before he came to the 49ers, Fangio was known for having had some truly bad defenses and having his defenses get worse after each season. He was by no means seen as a "homerun" at DC.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
Originally posted by dald1:
Yeah not like he exactly impressed the league, pretty sure the defense finished the bottom of the barrel so he's def a step up from vic ? York doesn't know what the hell he's doing and its apparent
Keep in mind that before he came to the 49ers, Fangio was known for having had some truly bad defenses and having his defenses get worse after each season. He was by no means seen as a "homerun" at DC.
Fangio at lest coached good defense though, yes they got worse, but at lest he saw success. Tarver never has.
Originally posted by thl408:
Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by thl408:
Jason Tarver's scheme looks to mix it up and come with a lot of different looks and coverages. He is rooted in a 3-4 scheme (OLB coach for 49ers for 6 seasons) even though he ran a 4-3 in OAK in his first stint as DC. Trying to learn more...
http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post/_/id/63179/raiders-mad-scientist-has-d-humming
Last week, Alex Smith, considered one of the smartest signal-callers in the league, admitted the Raiders confused him at times in Kansas City's eventual 24-7 victory.
"They did a great job mixing it up," said Smith, who was sacked three times in the first quarter.
"I felt like we never could get a read on it, on what they were doing … they just kept rolling through the calls and mixing it. They did a great job. They caught us off guard a few times. They caught me off guard."
Sheesh, if they caught Alex off guard, then Colin probably felt like a preschooler in grad school vs that defense.
From the OAK film analysis thread, I wrote this about the OAK defense: "OAK came with a healthy mix of man and zone coverage throughout the game."
This is before I did any research into Jason Tarver because there was no idea he'd be a candidate for 49er DC back in week 14 of the season. Kap's stat line that week:
18/33
174 yards (5.3 ypa)
1TD, 2 INTs
54.4 Rating
Oscar @BetterRivals
Jason Tarver's Defensive DVOA rankings as the #Raiders DC:
2012: 12.5% (29th)
2013: 10.3% (26th)
2014: 5.8% (26th)
#49ers
Oscar @BetterRivals
Tarver had marginally better ranking against the rush than the pass.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Originally posted by phatbutskinny:
just something that interests me. Donatell/Fangio was able to maximize their potential and make them look like solid NFL players, but they of course didn't do anything on the raiders. Yes, we surely have a lot more talent on our team, but I'm convinced a lot of it was due to coaching
No question about that!
Originally posted by Jcool:
Oscar @BetterRivals
Jason Tarver's Defensive DVOA rankings as the #Raiders DC:
2012: 12.5% (29th)
2013: 10.3% (26th)
2014: 5.8% (26th)
#49ers
