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Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
I think Chudzinski would be a good fit for our current offensive personnel and get way more production from the TE's
both chud and trestman have similar problems. they get away from the run and are content with chucking the ball too much and letting qb 'go to work'. that can and most likely WILL be a problem.
Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:I don't think it's fair to call the search a "giant sham". How about calling it "doing their due diligence"?
After the whole HC search thing turned out to be a giant sham, I wouldn't get your hopes up regarding an OC, I honestly expect a truly underwhelming hire, someone like the Raiders QB coach to come on board, a first time OC for a DL coach turned HC.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
I think Chudzinski would be a good fit for our current offensive personnel and get way more production from the TE's
both chud and trestman have similar problems. they get away from the run and are content with chucking the ball too much and letting qb 'go to work'. that can and most likely WILL be a problem.
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Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
I think Chudzinski would be a good fit for our current offensive personnel and get way more production from the TE's
both chud and trestman have similar problems. they get away from the run and are content with chucking the ball too much and letting qb 'go to work'. that can and most likely WILL be a problem.
this.
Not sure about Chud, but Trestman uses the RB in the passing game as an extension of the running game. Easy, high % completions. Forte had a bunch of them, as did our RBs when Trestman was OC here '95-'96.
Originally posted by theduke85:
I don't think it's fair to call the search a "giant sham". How about calling it "doing their due diligence"?
Originally posted by theduke85:
I don't think it's fair to call the search a "giant sham". How about calling it "doing their due diligence"?
Originally posted by SofaKing:I mean, even if they were very high on Tomsula, why not interview other candidates just to hear what they have to say? You never know what you'll find. Not to sound apologetic, but I think it would've been shortsighted and a mistake not to bring in other candidates (beyond obligatory Rooney rule interviews, etc).
Originally posted by theduke85:
I don't think it's fair to call the search a "giant sham". How about calling it "doing their due diligence"?
I suppose. I think it's clear the 49ers had their minds mostly set on Tomsula. They've been grooming him for years. I remember one columnist (forgot who), who spoke to Baalke about coaching candidates, and when Tomsula's name was mentioned, his eyes lit up. They didn't find anyone on the outside who they liked better than Tomsula. That's fine, but they better be right.
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by SofaKing:
Originally posted by Jcool:
Originally posted by the_dynasty:
Originally posted by SonocoNinerFan:
I think Chudzinski would be a good fit for our current offensive personnel and get way more production from the TE's
both chud and trestman have similar problems. they get away from the run and are content with chucking the ball too much and letting qb 'go to work'. that can and most likely WILL be a problem.
this.
Not sure about Chud, but Trestman uses the RB in the passing game as an extension of the running game. Easy, high % completions. Forte had a bunch of them, as did our RBs when Trestman was OC here '95-'96.
Yes he will use them in the passing game, but will miss use them in the running game.
Originally posted by Arson:What? The 2002 Raiders lead the league in yards and were 2nd (behind KC) in scoring.
Anybody who says Marc Tressman must be young, or a new 49er fan, I remember him leading the nfl in yardage, but not scoring, and always bogging down in the redzone, and Jerry Rices Avg going to complete s**t, our offense lost all explosiveness, we where like ball control with rb outlets, no scoring, and no threat of a down field attack, he did the same thing leading the raiders in 2002, look up the stats.
Originally posted by Arson:Anybody who says Marc Tressman must be young, or a new 49er fan, I remember him leading the nfl in yardage, but not scoring, and always bogging down in the redzone, and Jerry Rices Avg going to complete s**t, our offense lost all explosiveness, we where like ball control with rb outlets, no scoring, and no threat of a down field attack, he did the same thing leading the raiders in 2002, look up the stats.
Originally posted by theduke85:
Originally posted by SofaKing:I mean, even if they were very high on Tomsula, why not interview other candidates just to hear what they have to say? You never know what you'll find. Not to sound apologetic, but I think it would've been shortsighted and a mistake not to bring in other candidates (beyond obligatory Rooney rule interviews, etc).
Originally posted by theduke85:
I don't think it's fair to call the search a "giant sham". How about calling it "doing their due diligence"?
I suppose. I think it's clear the 49ers had their minds mostly set on Tomsula. They've been grooming him for years. I remember one columnist (forgot who), who spoke to Baalke about coaching candidates, and when Tomsula's name was mentioned, his eyes lit up. They didn't find anyone on the outside who they liked better than Tomsula. That's fine, but they better be right.
Originally posted by Arson:
Anybody who says Marc Tressman must be young, or a new 49er fan, I remember him leading the nfl in yardage, but not scoring, and always bogging down in the redzone, and Jerry Rices Avg going to complete s**t, our offense lost all explosiveness, we where like ball control with rb outlets, no scoring, and no threat of a down field attack, he did the same thing leading the raiders in 2002, look up the stats.
Originally posted by captveg:Originally posted by Arson:Anybody who says Marc Tressman must be young, or a new 49er fan, I remember him leading the nfl in yardage, but not scoring, and always bogging down in the redzone, and Jerry Rices Avg going to complete s**t, our offense lost all explosiveness, we where like ball control with rb outlets, no scoring, and no threat of a down field attack, he did the same thing leading the raiders in 2002, look up the stats.
Not scoring? #1 scoring offense in 95, #3 in 96. The offense's problems were that we lost Watters and had to use Loville as the #1 RB.