This front office is in total denial. Baalke has no idea yet how badly he has pissed away the last three drafts. Harbaugh makes for a decent scapegoat, but the jig will be up next year when we get the true verdict on the 2013 and 2014 drafts. We had beaucoup picks....but he lost the crap shoot on a significant number of them. Enough to the point that the the talent inflow is not enough to compensate for the talent outflow.
This offseason will also see a huge exodus of talent as well. Baalke's picks will be on the spot to perform and pick up the slack.
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Dec 22, 2014 at 5:53 PM
- kray28
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Dec 22, 2014 at 5:53 PM
- linkboy
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Originally posted by cwr327:
The offense sucks ass, that much is clear, but doesn't Roman get part of the blame?
Roman is running Harbaugh's offense (and yes, he does get part of the blame).
However, Jim doesn't believe that Roman is doing anything wrong (this is where Jim's stubborness comes into play) and flat refuses to relieve Greg of his playcalling duties.
Dec 22, 2014 at 5:55 PM
- kray28
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If Harbaugh goes, Roman does too. I don't know what happens to Fangio. I think they will ask him to stay...he may not want to, and I don't blame him.
Dec 22, 2014 at 5:57 PM
- NCommand
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Hell no!!!! Now, if Fangio and staff leave, then maybe.
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:02 PM
- cwr327
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We have some of the best players on both offense and defense and I hate to see that talent go to waste. We've come so close and I feel like the offense is holding us back. We're predictable, we rely on our defense to keep the score manageable. Gore can run with the best of them but Kap can't throw with enough accuracy to make him a threat, regardless of how mobile he is. Part of it is on him and part of it is on the play calling.
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:02 PM
- cciowa
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people act like they want it to be closed, i hate this s**t, the op probably just came on board three years ago
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:04 PM
- LZRD_WZRD
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This window has closed, but I think a new one will open soon (maybe next year with competent offensive coaches
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Dec 22, 2014 at 6:06 PM
- 16for6
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Originally posted by cwr327:
Originally posted by 16for6:
Are you seeing eye-to-eye with Harbaugh's offensive philosophy?
The offense sucks ass, that much is clear, but doesn't Roman get part of the blame?
Sure he does, but isn't Roman Harbaugh's guy? The Head Coach is responsible for his staff, gameplan, personnel decisions relating to gameday, etc...
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:07 PM
- kray28
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Originally posted by cciowa:
people act like they want it to be closed, i hate this s**t, the op probably just came on board three years ago
After a decade of floundering, the Yorks finally won the coaching lottery with Harbaugh, and got their first taste of winning football. Now they think they know what it's all about. It could very well be another decade until we see the playoffs again.
I've seen this movie before.
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:09 PM
- cciowa
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Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by cciowa:
people act like they want it to be closed, i hate this s**t, the op probably just came on board three years ago
After a decade of floundering, the Yorks finally won the coaching lottery with Harbaugh, and got their first taste of winning football. Now they think they know what it's all about. It could very well be another decade until we see the playoffs again.
I've seen this movie before.
and after george left people were shook to the core when we hired an outsider and doom and gloom was predicted but mooch, still TO became TO continued on pretty well, it can go either way
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:11 PM
- buhda
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Head coach - Mike Shanahan
OC./assistance Head coach. Kyle Shanahan
DC. Tomsula
OC./assistance Head coach. Kyle Shanahan
DC. Tomsula
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:13 PM
- krizay
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IMO there really isnt a closed or open anymore. Look where we were before Harbaugh and in his first year WITH ALEX SMITH we went to the NFCCG NO ONE expected that. All it takes is the right guy to lead us and we can get right back there.
Look at DET this year. mediocre they hire Caldwell (who also took over midseason to help take Balt to the superbowl) Bruce arians in ARI. All it takes is getting the right guy for our team.
Jim Harbaugh isnt the end all be all. While i wish we couldve kept him its clear we are not.
So to answer your question... our window is as open as the coach that climbs through it
Look at DET this year. mediocre they hire Caldwell (who also took over midseason to help take Balt to the superbowl) Bruce arians in ARI. All it takes is getting the right guy for our team.
Jim Harbaugh isnt the end all be all. While i wish we couldve kept him its clear we are not.
So to answer your question... our window is as open as the coach that climbs through it
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:13 PM
- NCommand
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Originally posted by kray28:
Originally posted by cciowa:
people act like they want it to be closed, i hate this s**t, the op probably just came on board three years ago
After a decade of floundering, the Yorks finally won the coaching lottery with Harbaugh, and got their first taste of winning football. Now they think they know what it's all about. It could very well be another decade until we see the playoffs again.
I've seen this movie before.
Movie? The script hasn't even been written yet and trailer hasn't been drafted. Your fear is understandable but like most fears, there is no rationality tied to them in the end. Let's just let things play out first and see where we go.
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:15 PM
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It closed the second kap threw that pass on 1st and 10 from the 18 yardline during last season's NFC Championship Game.
Dec 22, 2014 at 6:16 PM
- kray28
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Originally posted by buhda:
Head coach - Mike Shanahan
OC./assistance Head coach. Kyle Shanahan
DC. Tomsula
Really? You want Tomsula as the DC? Over Fangio? If they get rid of Fangio on top of Harbaugh, these buffoons in the front office are even dumber than I thought they were.