If Jim Harbaugh leaves, who do you want as the next coach of the 49ers(All Coaching Rumors

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by Jd925:

Originally posted by NCommand:
Great post!

Thanks! Yeah I could hardly believe what I was seeing, but it's very nice to know.

Agree with NC...thanks for posting this. Gets old to have people knock the WCO right here on a niner site!

Thanks... Yeah tradition runs deep with the Niners!

Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:

Falcon's defensive coordinator

That's NOT funny I think I need another drink

Originally posted by trevorontario:

Originally posted by jimmythegreekjr:
Falcon's defensive coordinator

That's NOT funny I think I need another drink

right up there with someone who wanted mora jr

Yes Holmgren is 66, and Pete Carroll is in his 60s as well. Coughlin was probably in his 60s when he won two SBs. Bruce Arians is a damn good coach and he's 62. So let's not rule out the old timers from winning rings.

I'd love to have a younger coach with a bright mind who will be here for many years, but a lot of these coordinators are unproven.

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Yes Holmgren is 66, and Pete Carroll is in his 60s as well. Coughlin was probably in his 60s when he won two SBs. Bruce Arians is a damn good coach and he's 62. So let's not rule out the old timers from winning rings.

I'd love to have a younger coach with a bright mind who will be here for many years, but a lot of these coordinators are unproven.

we have a good roster so that is why i say no unknown coordinator and no promoting any coach we have on staff, that leaves only one logical choice in gruden,, bet you our job is the only job he would leave the booth for

Originally posted by cciowa:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Yes Holmgren is 66, and Pete Carroll is in his 60s as well. Coughlin was probably in his 60s when he won two SBs. Bruce Arians is a damn good coach and he's 62. So let's not rule out the old timers from winning rings.

I'd love to have a younger coach with a bright mind who will be here for many years, but a lot of these coordinators are unproven.

we have a good roster so that is why i say no unknown coordinator and no promoting any coach we have on staff, that leaves only one logical choice in gruden,, bet you our job is the only job he would leave the booth for

i wouldn't mind gruden, interested to see if he wants kap or not

Well Chicago is a mess:

Rich Campbell ‏@Rich_Campbell

Bears OC Aaron Kromer tearfully told the entire offense Monday he criticized QB Jay Cutler to NFL Network. Story:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-biggs-aaron-kromer-bears-spt-1212-20141211-story.html

Maybe Jim Harbaugh can bring in Trestman as his new OC???

Todd Bowles for hc

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Yes Holmgren is 66, and Pete Carroll is in his 60s as well. Coughlin was probably in his 60s when he won two SBs. Bruce Arians is a damn good coach and he's 62. So let's not rule out the old timers from winning rings.

I'd love to have a younger coach with a bright mind who will be here for many years, but a lot of these coordinators are unproven.

Good point! Coughlin--68 and Carroll--63...seem to be doing OK...and neither is the offensive mind Holmgren is.

Lol holmgren traded up for Richardson and drafted weeden in this first round.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:
Yes Holmgren is 66, and Pete Carroll is in his 60s as well. Coughlin was probably in his 60s when he won two SBs. Bruce Arians is a damn good coach and he's 62. So let's not rule out the old timers from winning rings.

I'd love to have a younger coach with a bright mind who will be here for many years, but a lot of these coordinators are unproven.

Good point! Coughlin--68 and Carroll--63...seem to be doing OK...and neither is the offensive mind Holmgren is.

Coughlin is on his way out though. He would probably be fired this year if not for his Superbowl victories will be allowed to "retire" at some point.

Originally posted by susweel:
Lol holmgren traded up for Richardson and drafted weeden in this first round.

Well he was stripped of his GM duties in Seattle for a reason.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by Jd925:

Hey he made the Superbowl in 2005.. that's not that long ago. I agree 66 is getting up there in age, but I think his wisdom will make up for it. Harbaugh's youthful spirit will remain with team, and the old man of the mountains will take us to the promised land. He spoke with Oakland and he's itching to get back it seems.

Holmgren is the highest up on the Bill Walsh tree and I would rank him higher up than George Seifert because he was the OC during the last Walsh championship years. He's the direct disciple of the highest of highness. The Genius.


Last 20 Seasons of Superbowl Champions.

1994 Seifert - Bill Walsh Tree
1995 Jimmy Johnson - His own tree
1996 Holmgren - Bill Walsh Tree
1997 Shanahan - Bill Walsh Tree
1998 Shanahan - Bill Walsh Tree
1999 Dick Vermeil - His own tree (Made Superbowl in 1980 w/ Eagles vs Raiders)
2000 Brian Billick - Bill Walsh Tree (under Dennis Green)
2001 Bill Belichick* - Parcells Tree
2002 Jon Gruden - Bill Walsh Tree (under Paul Hackett)
2003 Bill Belichick* - Parcells Tree
2004 Bill Belichick* - Parcells Tree
2005 Bill Cowher (under Schottenheimer.... Beat Holmgren - Bill Walsh Tree)
2006 Tony Dungy - Bill Walsh Tree (under Dennis Green)
2007 Mike Tomlin - Bill Walsh Tree (under Childress/Dungy.. also under Cowher)
2008 Tom Coughlin - Parcells Tree
2009 Sean Payton - Parcells Tree
2010 Mike McCarthy - Bill Walsh Tree (under Paul Hackett)
2011 Tom Coughlin - Parcells Tree
2012 John Harbaugh - Bill Walsh Tree (under Andy Reid)
2013 Pete Carroll - Bill Walsh Tree (under George Seifert)

Note*: Belichick used Walsh's: The Winning Edge as the Bible after the nuclear winter of his failed stint in Cleveland.

It seems Superbowls grow on trees....

Great post!

In all honesty, the WCO is why I love football. I think those tend to knock it and say it won't work fail to realize its core concepts and staple plays are still run by pretty much every team in the league. I think what they get stuck on is thinking the WCO is a group of formations. That is not the case. Of course it would be difficult operating in today's nfl running a majority of the time from split/near/far form in base personnel groupings. IMO, the WCO in 2014 is what gb and McCarthy are doing. Backs are very much involved in the passing game, and they do a great job of running multi WCO concepts within the spread looks. For example they will come out in an empty look 3x2 and run a spot concept on the trip/bunch side and run something like a smash of the twins side.

I'm very much open to the idea of either one of our historic OCs taking over if Harbs is in deed gone. Holmgren is a mastermind and the fact that WCO concepts still shred defenses in 2014, I have very little doubt he could adapt his offense. Hell he ran no shot as a OC with and a HC with gb, but by the end of his Seattle tenure he had installed a gun package. I also don't think age is a factor, it more of a want to with him.

However, my dream sceniro would be keep Harbs and getting morringwheg in to run the offense. It's the best of both worlds.

Originally posted by Jcool:

Originally posted by susweel:
Lol holmgren traded up for Richardson and drafted weeden in this first round.

Well he was stripped of his GM duties in Seattle for a reason.

He just seems old and tired.

Todd Bowles for hc if we don't get an offensive mind.

What's with all the old coaches? Maybe we should look Into Dick Vermeil? How bout Ditka? Who knows.. Maybe Singletary deserves a second shot..