Washington Redskins Coaches film analysis

The second time the 49ers faced 3rd & 1, they ran a QB sneak for a gain of +2.

From the defensive alignment, it can be seen that there is an opening in the A gap between Iupati and MMartin.


Staley cuts the DE. Iupati and Martin combo block the DT.


Kap falls forward for +2.


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Originally posted by jonnydel:
I was gonna take a look at this play, but since you already got it, #91 totally blows up this play. If you watch, he's playing the "7" technique. He'll eat up 3 of our guys, Staley, Iupati and Martin and still works his ay through and is the first guy that touches Gore. That is an incredible individual effort by that defender and kinda embarrassing for our guys. Sometimes, you gotta tip your hat to the other team.

Yeah #91, the OLB that looped inside. Is this a case of play recognition? Where he read 'outside zone', so he looped inside to blow it up? It was 3rd and 1 so I doubt they were calling a stunt for pass rushing purposes. Something to consider is that WAS is a zone blocking team so they may have some tricks up their sleeve on how to blow up zone blocking run plays. He wreaked a lot of havoc on that play.

Here is the failed QB sneak on 3rd & 1.

The pic below is about 2 seconds before the snap of the ball as Carrier goes in motion. WAS baits the A gap to MMartin's right (gap between MMartin and Boone).


As Carrier goes in motion across the formation, the DT fills the A gap between MMartin and Boone.


Kap tries the gap between Iupati and MMartin (MMartin's left shoulder).


Stuffed for no gain. Punt. This was probably one the most 'throw your remote at the TV' moments in the game.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

I like the draw play, but it just dawned on me that since Colin is mobile, most D Linemen have to have very good pass rush discipline. So they will unlikely take any wide pass rushes that a draw play can take advantage of. Still, I like the play and we should use it more as Colin gets better in the passing game and use it as a counter to a defense overloading the pass.

That's a good point. It takes away the full out pass rush but forces gap responsibility.

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 9moon:
But you see, this is the part where Kaep needs some good QB coaching.. he needs to be tought when to zip the ball and when to put some air..

this pass to Crabb should never been a lobbed ball... he had a yard or 2 separation and he needs to throw the ball on a line here...

This is a different corner pattern than the one where he LOBBED the ball to Anquan and Seattle's Chansellor intercepted it..

or, he coulda hit the back ASAP on the swing and it woulda been a foot race..

I'd have to disagree there. For me, I'd want him to put a little air under it because the receiver had room to work towards the sideline. You don't want a high archer, but, you want a little air so that the receiver can adjust a little bit. It's VERY hard to make a throw like that on a line - it leaves you zero room for error. With a little air, it's much more likely to be caught. If you watch Aaron Rodgers make those throws, it's got pretty much the same arc as Kap put on it. Like Thl said, it was thaaaaat close.

Well, the difference is ... Rodgers is a complete QB now... Kaep's arm is too strong and you can tell he's accuracy isn't that great.. this is why the ball was fell incomplete, he put some air on the throw which made it off target.. he throws like a pitcher and that's why if it woulda been a better idea to have him zip the ball in there..

And one plays in a WCO and the other, an Anti-WCO.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Here's an example of play where Colin may have gained positive yards on a scramble, got a first down, but missed a better opportunity. This is where i'd like to see growth in him as a QB.

3:30 2nd QTR:


Here, we come out in "21" personnel and split Miller out wide. This gives CK an easier read on the defense. You can see it's #22 on Miller - a corner. That reveals zone coverage as that puts a LB on Crabree in the slot. No defense in its right mind will put a LB on a WR in man-coverage. So, that, mixed with the single safety, shows cover 3 zone right off the bat.


So, after gathering that information, we then motion Miller into the backfield to help sell our run fake. CK, should know that the cover 3 zone will be vulnerable over the intermediate middle.


The run fake brings the LB's up just a little - that's all you need, and it will open up the intermediate middle.


This is what Kap sees right as he turns around. He should be looking for the intermediate middle route to Crabtree the moment he turns around(as all the pre-snap information showed him that).


The ball should be out right here to this spot where the arrow's pointing. I've seen Kap do this before, but, again, it comes down to consistency. It's a small window and you have to fire this ball right on time to get it between the LB's.


If he throws the ball when I showed, he'd hit Crabs right here - open for a nice 12 yard gain. Even without that, he's got two underneath receivers open as well - doesn't throw to either one of them.


Instead, he takes off and gains 5 yards. This was 2nd and 1 - so, I understand he was looking for the big shot, but, he also needs to have a full awareness of what the defense is going to give you. The moment he turned around and saw the safety closing on the seam route, you go to the intermediate in route. Part of that process of getting the information to digest faster and get the ball out. It's a lot on him to do in a fraction of a second, but, that's what the elite QB's do.

Yeah this play was a tad frustrating because he left a throw on the field, but he did convert the first down. There is another one that was worse and it came later on the same drive. I'll show that next.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

I was gonna take a look at this play, but since you already got it, #91 totally blows up this play. If you watch, he's playing the "7" technique. He'll eat up 3 of our guys, Staley, Iupati and Martin and still works his ay through and is the first guy that touches Gore. That is an incredible individual effort by that defender and kinda embarrassing for our guys. Sometimes, you gotta tip your hat to the other team.

Yeah #91, the OLB that looped inside. Is this a case of play recognition? Where he read 'outside zone', so he looped inside to blow it up? It was 3rd and 1 so I doubt they were calling a stunt for pass rushing purposes. Something to consider is that WAS is a zone blocking team so they may have some tricks up their sleeve on how to blow up zone blocking run plays. He wreaked a lot of havoc on that play.

#91 that's ryan Kerrigan. I thought he had a pretty good game, Im pretty sure he had a sack as well.

Originally posted by thl408:

I tell ya, running against 9 men in the box is a b!tch!

Hindsight is 20/20, but I think maybe a play pass to the TE (spider Y 2 banana, anybody? ) Deep in our own territory, short yardage, this would have been a decent time to maybe throw it to the TE or FB? This is one of the times I think you have to audible out of a bad play. Running against 9 men, even with our O Line and RB, is maybe asking too much.

2Q 2nd & 10

WAS: WAS shows a cover2 deep safety look. It's some variation of Tampa2
Route color coded because of overlapping.


Kap takes the snap and looks right. The two orange defenders easily defeat SJ's corner route, which is where Kap is looking. Kap needs to red light SJ immediately, SJ is defeated. The blue defender has inside leverage versus Boldin's Out route. This is a win for Boldin.


Kap is about to take his second hitch step, so he had a bit of time in the pocket. He is still looking at SJ to get open. The reason I know he's looking at SJ is because if he was looking at Boldin, he would have pulled the trigger by now. Crabs is also open, but Kap isn't looking towards that area of the field - so no fault there.


Not sure what Kap expected to happen with SJ. WAS showed cover 2 and sagged their corner to help beat SJ's Corner route.


Sacked for -4. The red lighting of SJ (High) needed to happen sooner in order for Kap to find the Low (Boldin).

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 9moon:
But you see, this is the part where Kaep needs some good QB coaching.. he needs to be tought when to zip the ball and when to put some air..

this pass to Crabb should never been a lobbed ball... he had a yard or 2 separation and he needs to throw the ball on a line here...

This is a different corner pattern than the one where he LOBBED the ball to Anquan and Seattle's Chansellor intercepted it..

or, he coulda hit the back ASAP on the swing and it woulda been a foot race..

I'd have to disagree there. For me, I'd want him to put a little air under it because the receiver had room to work towards the sideline. You don't want a high archer, but, you want a little air so that the receiver can adjust a little bit. It's VERY hard to make a throw like that on a line - it leaves you zero room for error. With a little air, it's much more likely to be caught. If you watch Aaron Rodgers make those throws, it's got pretty much the same arc as Kap put on it. Like Thl said, it was thaaaaat close.

Well, the difference is ... Rodgers is a complete QB now... Kaep's arm is too strong and you can tell he's accuracy isn't that great.. this is why the ball was fell incomplete, he put some air on the throw which made it off target.. he throws like a pitcher and that's why if it woulda been a better idea to have him zip the ball in there..

And one plays in a WCO and the other, an Anti-WCO.

Well regarding our passing game, there are a lot of WCO plays and principles in it. We just aren't a pass first team. Not yet anyway. The difference between Rodgers and Colin, aside from experience and QB maturity, is that it seems Colin (it could be Harbaugh too) is just too impatient. There are just some easy checkdowns available if he would look for it, but he looks for the long bomb just a bit too much.

I don't think it has to do with windup, arm strength, or accuracy, touch. He has plenty of those. We've seen it before - but the mental side, the strategic side, is still developing. As thl408, niners816, and jonnydel point out - it's a lot of information to process in a short amount of time once the play is given to him, but he has the physical gifts and he's shown in the past that he's mentally capable of it too. He's just inconsistent about it. The O Line just has to help him by giving him more time in the pocket to read the defense, unfortunately the O Line is also inconsistent.

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by 9moon:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 9moon:
But you see, this is the part where Kaep needs some good QB coaching.. he needs to be tought when to zip the ball and when to put some air..

this pass to Crabb should never been a lobbed ball... he had a yard or 2 separation and he needs to throw the ball on a line here...

This is a different corner pattern than the one where he LOBBED the ball to Anquan and Seattle's Chansellor intercepted it..

or, he coulda hit the back ASAP on the swing and it woulda been a foot race..

I'd have to disagree there. For me, I'd want him to put a little air under it because the receiver had room to work towards the sideline. You don't want a high archer, but, you want a little air so that the receiver can adjust a little bit. It's VERY hard to make a throw like that on a line - it leaves you zero room for error. With a little air, it's much more likely to be caught. If you watch Aaron Rodgers make those throws, it's got pretty much the same arc as Kap put on it. Like Thl said, it was thaaaaat close.

Well, the difference is ... Rodgers is a complete QB now... Kaep's arm is too strong and you can tell he's accuracy isn't that great.. this is why the ball was fell incomplete, he put some air on the throw which made it off target.. he throws like a pitcher and that's why if it woulda been a better idea to have him zip the ball in there..

And one plays in a WCO and the other, an Anti-WCO.

Well regarding our passing game, there are a lot of WCO plays and principles in it. We just aren't a pass first team. Not yet anyway. The difference between Rodgers and Colin, aside from experience and QB maturity, is that it seems Colin (it could be Harbaugh too) is just too impatient. There are just some easy checkdowns available if he would look for it, but he looks for the long bomb just a bit too much.

I don't think it has to do with windup, arm strength, or accuracy, touch. He has plenty of those. We've seen it before - but the mental side, the strategic side, is still developing. As thl408, niners816, and jonnydel point out - it's a lot of information to process in a short amount of time once the play is given to him, but he has the physical gifts and he's shown in the past that he's mentally capable of it too. He's just inconsistent about it. The O Line just has to help him by giving him more time in the pocket to read the defense, unfortunately the O Line is also inconsistent.

Yeah, we could talk all day on this topic but it would probably derail thread and get it off track. But in general, while we do run some WCO designs, they don't run them all with WCO principles...first downs would be a major focus, and like you said, the short passing game would ideally, open up the run game in the 2nd half, QB's feet would be tied to WR routes, receiving options would be at 3 layers often (high-to-low), TE's would be a primary target, RB's would be a primary target, etc. So, in short, we're an Anti-WCO running a hodge podge offense with chunks and pieces from every type of offense there is incorporated into one gianormous playbook.

Originally posted by Bluesbro:

Originally posted by jonnydel:


I'll be highlighting some things that CK can do better or things that he missed - that does not mean that he sucks or that I don't think he can lead us to a SB. That means, I'll be showing some things he can do better. Will some of those be things that he's needed to improve on for a while? Yes. But, again, that does not mean he sucks or that he's being poorly coached. It's hard to work on these things in leaps and bounds during the season.

Some posters won't even process this, and immediately go to suckage

This x 10000000000000...........

I'm sure yall will put it up...but Gore had an AMAZING cut back late in the game to convert a 1st down for us... their Safety had quickly got into the backfield...but Gore saw him and juked so fast it was ridiculous.

I know some have been down on Gore...but I don't think our other RBs could've thought of making that move...that quick.....especially on a key play that could've decided the game.

Originally posted by thl408:
2Q 2nd & 10

WAS: WAS shows a cover2 deep safety look. It's some variation of Tampa2
Route color coded because of overlapping.


Kap takes the snap and looks right. The two orange defenders easily defeat SJ's corner route, which is where Kap is looking. Kap needs to red light SJ immediately, SJ is defeated. The blue defender has inside leverage versus Boldin's Out route. This is a win for Boldin.


Kap is about to take his second hitch step, so he had a bit of time in the pocket. He is still looking at SJ to get open. The reason I know he's looking at SJ is because if he was looking at Boldin, he would have pulled the trigger by now. Crabs is also open, but Kap isn't looking towards that area of the field - so no fault there.


Not sure what Kap expected to happen with SJ. WAS showed cover 2 and sagged their corner to help beat SJ's Corner route.


Sacked for -4. The red lighting of SJ (High) needed to happen sooner in order for Kap to find the Low (Boldin).

Thl (and Jonnydel): This is an excellent breakdown. On TV, it looked like the OL completely failed. Looking at the film, you realize this is Kap's fault for not getting the ball out on the "low" read since it was open. You know it's not a trust issue because Boldin is his favorite WR.

Do either of you know if this is happening with less frequency compared to 2012-13, which would be a sign of Kap progressing as a pocket passer? Since you guys don't break down literally every play, it's hard for us to know.

Originally posted by thl408:
2Q 2nd & 10

WAS: WAS shows a cover2 deep safety look. It's some variation of Tampa2
Route color coded because of overlapping.


Kap takes the snap and looks right. The two orange defenders easily defeat SJ's corner route, which is where Kap is looking. Kap needs to red light SJ immediately, SJ is defeated. The blue defender has inside leverage versus Boldin's Out route. This is a win for Boldin.


Kap is about to take his second hitch step, so he had a bit of time in the pocket. He is still looking at SJ to get open. The reason I know he's looking at SJ is because if he was looking at Boldin, he would have pulled the trigger by now. Crabs is also open, but Kap isn't looking towards that area of the field - so no fault there.


Not sure what Kap expected to happen with SJ. WAS showed cover 2 and sagged their corner to help beat SJ's Corner route.


Sacked for -4. The red lighting of SJ (High) needed to happen sooner in order for Kap to find the Low (Boldin).

I was going to go off on Kaepernick for missing the wide-open Crabtree over the middle, but the defender actually jumped on him rather quickly. I say he gets a pass on that one, and I'm one of the most harsh Kaepernick critics on WZ.

That was actually a brilliant stunt by Kerrigan. The inside guy goes outside and drew Boone to the back, and Kerrigan (I think it was he) caught Martin between him & Boone & slipped around the inside. I'd watch that play over and over again if I were the coaches. That sack should actually be on Frank Gore. It's not the RB's job to double-team a guy around the back; it's his job to catch anyone who looks like he's slipping through.