Washington Redskins Coaches film analysis

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i replied to G, i thought he was talking about the mixture of routes in that play...and i didnt go back in the thread on to find thoughts as i can see it just by gif

well, part of my point is that no one else was open because of the man-coverage. If it's any type of zone, we'll have other guys open. So, there's a good mixture that will beat a multitude of coverages. Like most plays, it's about the QB identifying the one guy that will be open against a particular coverage. That's what the reads are all about.

looks like a zone to me, and the deep corners are zone breakers

Originally posted by thl408:
1Q 3rd & 8
49ers: Cover 1

Fangio will move Aldon all around the Dline to create mismatches and confusion for the opposing Oline. Here, Aldon will start at a DT position and run an inside stunt with RayMac.


RayMace attacks the inside shoulder of the LG (gap between the LG and C) to provide a lane for Aldon coming around on the stunt.


The LG lunges at Aldon. The C is putting up with a bullrush by RayMac while having his attention on Aldon. The orange arrow shows where the C is looking, at Aldon.


Same time as pic above to see what RG3 is looking at. No one open to his right.


The Center disengages from RayMac to block Aldon. This allows RayMac a free run at RG3.


What Olineman in their right mind would leave their block on a DT up the middle to go and block a different defender? When that different defender is Aldon, it may be justifiable. -7 on the sack.

I love defense! Defense wins championships! This is a great All 22 film analysis thread!!

thl408

jonnydel

Yea the center was put in a bad spot. He should've stayed on Raymac tho.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i replied to G, i thought he was talking about the mixture of routes in that play...and i didnt go back in the thread on to find thoughts as i can see it just by gif

well, part of my point is that no one else was open because of the man-coverage. If it's any type of zone, we'll have other guys open. So, there's a good mixture that will beat a multitude of coverages. Like most plays, it's about the QB identifying the one guy that will be open against a particular coverage. That's what the reads are all about.

looks like a zone to me, and the deep corners are zone breakers

More like man all the way. Very dangerous to man cover against Colin, he'll eat that up if he breaks contain.

Originally posted by thl408:

RayMac was huge on this play. Unfortunately there's no sexy stat for disrupting the pocket but it's what the guy does game in and game out and his impact is huge. Pro-bowl calibre year imo.

Also, jonnydel, you may want to show those stats you found again about the % of points scored from starting inside your own 10 vs. outside. That alone, is starting from behind the 8-ball b/c a defense can pin their ears back, most defenses know you're going to run on 1st down in those situations, etc. Couple that with our other 1st down issues and man, that's a tall order for this offense.

Originally posted by LZRD_WZRD:
RayMac was huge on this play. Unfortunately there's no sexy stat for disrupting the pocket but it's what the guy does game in and game out and his impact is huge. Pro-bowl calibre year imo.

Agreed. Tis the life of a 3-4 DE. Rarely do they get the splash plays likes sacks or even tackle for losses. Often times they are asked to just eat up blockers so the athletic defensive playmakers hog the glory. RayMac has come on strong as of late. Looks like his mind is all on ball and not the off the field issue.

Originally posted by thl408:

Originally posted by LZRD_WZRD:
RayMac was huge on this play. Unfortunately there's no sexy stat for disrupting the pocket but it's what the guy does game in and game out and his impact is huge. Pro-bowl calibre year imo.

Agreed. Tis the life of a 3-4 DE. Rarely do they get the splash plays likes sacks or even tackle for losses. Often times they are asked to just eat up blockers so the athletic defensive playmakers hog the glory. RayMac has come on strong as of late. Looks like his mind is all on ball and not the off the field issue.

It just shows how much an outside distraction CAN effect a players abilities ON the field. He's free and loose since the verdict and has been playing lights out. Night and day!

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

i replied to G, i thought he was talking about the mixture of routes in that play...and i didnt go back in the thread on to find thoughts as i can see it just by gif

well, part of my point is that no one else was open because of the man-coverage. If it's any type of zone, we'll have other guys open. So, there's a good mixture that will beat a multitude of coverages. Like most plays, it's about the QB identifying the one guy that will be open against a particular coverage. That's what the reads are all about.

looks like a zone to me, and the deep corners are zone breakers

More like man all the way. Very dangerous to man cover against Colin, he'll eat that up if he breaks contain.

Yeah, that's about as man as man coverage gets. You can throw corner routes against both man and zone. Although this concept (smash) is a great cover 2 buster, in this case getting boldin on a saftey made this man killer.

We know the 49ers suck it big when trying to execute screen passes left/right to the RB. Whether that's because they can't coach it, the don't have the proper traits in their Olinemen, or a combination of the two and/or other factors, who knows. There are other ways to help slow down a pass rush, one of which is the draw play, which I have hoped for the 49ers to call once in awhile. Here the 49ers run a draw play to Gore.

1Q 2nd & 9


Kap takes the snap and looks to his left as he dropsback. The DT on Marcus Martin (#66) is in the middle of his swim move. Notice Gore's first step, to his left.


After pump faking to sell the pass, Kap turns around and hands off to Gore, who comes back to the right to receive the handoff. This play looks designed to go to the right side of the Oline. The penetration given up by MMartin can be seen. To the right side of the field (from 49ers point of view), Boldin has missed his block on the safety.


The penetration forces Gore to cut to his left.


Minimal +2 yard gain. MMartin misses his block, but Boldin's missed block would have also negatively affected the play had Gore been able to go to his right.

Originally posted by thl408:
Nice opening thought about how much we have to be thankful for. It's funny that we have to give a disclaimer before pointing out things the team needs to work on to get better. That said, I wanted to echo the same disclaimer.

DISCLAIMER: I am a Kap fan. Just because I critique his game, it does not mean I am a hater. From a coaches point of view, it is good to strive for perfection while hoping for excellence. The assessments may be harsh, but as we watch Kap develop, these cut ups provide a way for us to monitor his progress. As the years go by, we can see him get better in certain areas and look back and point to where he has grown.


WAS came with a healthy mix of man and zone coverage. A bit more man coverage than I expected considering how other teams have defended the 49ers by playing majority zone. Often, WAS would load the box with 8 and play man coverage. This is a compliment to the run game and a disrespect to the passing game. Some of that could be on Kap, but I think a lot of it is on the WR corp's lack of a deep threat. WAS didn't feel the need to fear being beat deep. This is why the 49ers took some deep shots even with no deep threats. That was what WAS dared the 49ers to do, beat them deep. It worked on the first drive and that caused the 49ers to try a few more times throughout the game.

When the WRs were covered downfield - no surprise there - there were indeed options underneath to throw to. Kap instead, scrambled for minimal gains. If the deep option is not there, Kap needs to be fast with adjusting his eye level to the short routes. Whether this is on the coaching to drill it into his head or on Kap to do it because that would be the logical thing to do, it needs to be done. There was one play on the final drive of the 1st half where there were 4 routes going out, both deep routes were double covered and Kap waited for it to become open. All the while the two underneath routes were open. I'll show a few plays regarding this.

I thought Marcus Martin didn't have a good game run blocking. He failed to recognize his block and that led to a few bad runs. Aldon's presence was felt up and down the Dline. The RayMac sack was a direct result of Aldon as Fangio moved Aldon around the Dline. Alfred Morris' big day was mainly a result of some missed assignments and shoddy tackling. This needs to get fixed for Thursday's game. I consider Morris like a mini-Lynch, big RB with good quickness, tough to bring down. RG3 is terrible and if you want to see a QB that doesn't know wth he's looking at when he drops back, RG3 is that guy. I'm sure a lot has to do with the 49er pas rush, but he is going down Micael Vick's career path if he doesn't shape up - good athlete, poor football IQ.

I just want to make this clear...

...I had a rant in my own thread about Kap haters here, in the stadium and in the media. I do NOT consider any criticism of his play in THIS thread by yourself unfair criticism.

My biggest issue is people with blind hatred of Kap who are impossible to reason with. Kap has holes in his game. He's got work to do to become the player we all want him to be. Pointing out those issues is a good thing. Writing him off as a loser QB based on very little information tho is what drives me nuts.

Originally posted by thl408:
We know the 49ers suck it big when trying to execute screen passes left/right to the RB. Whether that's because they can't coach it, the don't have the proper traits in their Olinemen, or a combination of the two and/or other factors, who knows. There are other ways to help slow down a pass rush, one of which is the draw play, which I have hoped for the 49ers to call once in awhile. Here the 49ers run a draw play to Gore.

Nice call there...yikes on the execution. Have you or anyone else noticed any tip-offs re: screen passes to RB's or WR screens, even quick-outs at the LOS designed to pick someone and get YAC? It just seems like defenses are ALL OVER these even pre-snap IIRC. It's been bothering me for a while but I can't figure out what it is.

Originally posted by thl408:
Kind of going backwards here, but this is the first play from scrimmage for the 49ers as they open the game by taking a deep shot.

WAS: cover1 man


Playaction to sell the flow of the play to the left. Kap then starts to roll to his right. This looks like a play the 49ers have run many times before as the hit the FB/TE going against the flow of the playaction.


Kap halts his rollout to the right and looks to throw back across the field. Crabs had been running as if to follow Kap's rollout to the right to influence the deep safety (blue). Crabs will also turn back towards the left.


Kap is mid windup.


Just missed.


The rollout right as well as the nice route by Crabs gets the deep safety to flow away from where the play is designed to go. In this case, Crabs was open. This won't be the case in the other times that the 49ers look for the deep shot.

Why not take the 10 yard gain by throwing to a wide open Gore in the flat?

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by thl408:
We know the 49ers suck it big when trying to execute screen passes left/right to the RB. Whether that's because they can't coach it, the don't have the proper traits in their Olinemen, or a combination of the two and/or other factors, who knows. There are other ways to help slow down a pass rush, one of which is the draw play, which I have hoped for the 49ers to call once in awhile. Here the 49ers run a draw play to Gore.

Nice call there...yikes on the execution. Have you or anyone else noticed any tip-offs re: screen passes to RB's or WR screens, even quick-outs at the LOS designed to pick someone and get YAC? It just seems like defenses are ALL OVER these even pre-snap IIRC. It's been bothering me for a while but I can't figure out what it is.

There's definitely something up with the WR screen passes. If I recall correctly, there were a few that have come close to being INTed. It happened @DEN, @NYG, and in this game as well.

Here's an example of play where Colin may have gained positive yards on a scramble, got a first down, but missed a better opportunity. This is where i'd like to see growth in him as a QB.

3:30 2nd QTR:


Here, we come out in "21" personnel and split Miller out wide. This gives CK an easier read on the defense. You can see it's #22 on Miller - a corner. That reveals zone coverage as that puts a LB on Crabree in the slot. No defense in its right mind will put a LB on a WR in man-coverage. So, that, mixed with the single safety, shows cover 3 zone right off the bat.


So, after gathering that information, we then motion Miller into the backfield to help sell our run fake. CK, should know that the cover 3 zone will be vulnerable over the intermediate middle.


The run fake brings the LB's up just a little - that's all you need, and it will open up the intermediate middle.


This is what Kap sees right as he turns around. He should be looking for the intermediate middle route to Crabtree the moment he turns around(as all the pre-snap information showed him that).


The ball should be out right here to this spot where the arrow's pointing. I've seen Kap do this before, but, again, it comes down to consistency. It's a small window and you have to fire this ball right on time to get it between the LB's.


If he throws the ball when I showed, he'd hit Crabs right here - open for a nice 12 yard gain. Even without that, he's got two underneath receivers open as well - doesn't throw to either one of them.


Instead, he takes off and gains 5 yards. This was 2nd and 1 - so, I understand he was looking for the big shot, but, he also needs to have a full awareness of what the defense is going to give you. The moment he turned around and saw the safety closing on the seam route, you go to the intermediate in route. Part of that process of getting the information to digest faster and get the ball out. It's a lot on him to do in a fraction of a second, but, that's what the elite QB's do.