Washington Redskins Coaches film analysis

Originally posted by Niners816:
Johnny, I to love everything about our td play. I've always loved the smash concepts and I love the little wrinkle we added by splitting miller out to run the hook. It really was a great job by kap recognizing the coverage and roping the throw. This play really is stealing.

Agree. I think this formation is a very balanced formation between the 20's. I wish Vance was healthy, because we need the TE's in the redzone. If Vance isn't healthy in the Seadderall game, we'll have to use Bruce as the 2nd TE and possibly an O Lineman as the 3rd blocking TE. I hear Celek might be activated, that will go a long way to get the 3 Tight end set going.

Swing passes to the backs is gonna be critical. Take the easy 3/4 yards when available. I think Miller might get a few key catches..Gotta stay out of the 3rd and 7plus. Need to have things managable. Then teh offense can dictate to the defense instead of vice cersa.

happy thanksgiving to all

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

The Anquan TD was preceded by a good mixture of short passing and off tackle runs. As Colin learns to draw the defense in with the short passing an runs, these long passes should open up. With good pass protection, as JD said these plays should be common place in the near future. It all depends on Colin's continued progression.

That mixture sucked, there was no one open...so colin took his only option if it was already designed to go to Boldin

after the colin scramble, there was a good Slant pass to Boldin, and a good off tackle run to the left for gore. Both had big gains. Why did this combination play prior to the Anquan TD suck?

Great play

lol, lazy route running by VD, that Route should have kept going to the sideline..which would have VD and Gore wide open to the left if the play broke down

Originally posted by Giedi:
after the colin scramble, there was a good Slant pass to Boldin, and a good off tackle run to the left for gore. Both had big gains. Why did this combination play prior to the Anquan TD suck?

sorry missed that, i thought you meant that play itself

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

The Anquan TD was preceded by a good mixture of short passing and off tackle runs. As Colin learns to draw the defense in with the short passing an runs, these long passes should open up. With good pass protection, as JD said these plays should be common place in the near future. It all depends on Colin's continued progression.

That mixture sucked, there was no one open...so colin took his only option if it was already designed to go to Boldin

Did you read my breakdown of that play??? If so, you would see how no one else was open and why the corner route was the one we threw to......

Originally posted by thl408:

I agree with you thl408. Just missed by smidgen. I like the design of this play, and just to add - Frank is open for a decent gain if colin checks down on this. but I think his throw to crabs was the correct one, he just missed by a couple of inches.

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by thl408:

The Anquan TD was preceded by a good mixture of short passing and off tackle runs. As Colin learns to draw the defense in with the short passing an runs, these long passes should open up. With good pass protection, as JD said these plays should be common place in the near future. It all depends on Colin's continued progression.

That mixture sucked, there was no one open...so colin took his only option if it was already designed to go to Boldin

Did you read my breakdown of that play??? If so, you would see how no one else was open and why the corner route was the one we threw to......

i replied to G, i thought he was talking about the mixture of routes in that play...and i didnt go back in the thread on to find thoughts as i can see it just by gif

Here's our first sack of the game:

14:23 1st QTR:


Here, we're going to run our base 3-4 defense against WA who's come out in 21 Personnel. This is a great example of how the pass rush helps the coverage. We're going to run a cover-1 man.


WA tries to run fake out of the read-option - doesn't work.


This is the route that would best beat the man-coverage. However, RGIII can't step up into the pocket to see the throw well.


The ball should be released by this point - but, the rush forced RGIII to move so he couldn't hit the throw. This is a timing throw and our pass rush adjusted the timing.


RayMac actually gets doubled on this play but bull rushes the guard back into RGIII. Brooks checks to make sure a RB isn't flaring out to his side and then comes on the rush.


You can see here how RayMac pushed the guard right into RGIII's face. If he doesn't, it's an easy throw and catch to the man-beating hook route. But, since RGIII can't step up into that throw, he tries to step back and move on to another read.


You see here how the receiver was open on the play.


Since RGIII steps back, he's right into Smith's rush lane and gets sacked.

This is an instance where the pass rush helps the coverage. Later, on the game-clinching sack, it's the coverage that helps the rush.

Thl - I tried to post your GIF to it of this play, but it told me the file size was too large.....

Originally posted by thl408:

Definitely a nice play. Very much the like the flood concept. Very WCO. If you look at the formation, it looks like a weak I formation that with some motion can move to a strong I and go into an off tackle power run. I like the formation, the concept, and the options. Clearly, they heard thl408, JonnyDell, and others about poor play design. This is a good design in that it relies on Colin's progression as a touch passer. He's not rocketing that to miller, that's a very good catchable ball. Very Joe/Steve-ish in catchability.

1Q 3rd & 8
49ers: Cover 1

Fangio will move Aldon all around the Dline to create mismatches and confusion for the opposing Oline. Here, Aldon will start at a DT position and run an inside stunt with RayMac.


RayMace attacks the inside shoulder of the LG (gap between the LG and C) to provide a lane for Aldon coming around on the stunt.


The LG lunges at Aldon. The C is putting up with a bullrush by RayMac while having his attention on Aldon. The orange arrow shows where the C is looking, at Aldon.


Same time as pic above to see what RG3 is looking at. No one open to his right.


The Center disengages from RayMac to block Aldon. This allows RayMac a free run at RG3.


What Olineman in their right mind would leave their block on a DT up the middle to go and block a different defender? When that different defender is Aldon, it may be justifiable. -7 on the sack.

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
i replied to G, i thought he was talking about the mixture of routes in that play...and i didnt go back in the thread on to find thoughts as i can see it just by gif

well, part of my point is that no one else was open because of the man-coverage. If it's any type of zone, we'll have other guys open. So, there's a good mixture that will beat a multitude of coverages. Like most plays, it's about the QB identifying the one guy that will be open against a particular coverage. That's what the reads are all about.

Originally posted by thl408:
1Q 3rd & 8
49ers: Cover 1

Fangio will move Aldon all around the Dline to create mismatches and confusion for the opposing Oline. Here, Aldon will start at a DT position and run an inside stunt with RayMac.


RayMace attacks the inside shoulder of the LG (gap between the LG and C) to provide a lane for Aldon coming around on the stunt.


The LG lunges at Aldon. The C is putting up with a bullrush by RayMac while having his attention on Aldon. The orange arrow shows where the C is looking, at Aldon.


Same time as pic above to see what RG3 is looking at. No one open to his right.


The Center disengages from RayMac to block Aldon. This allows RayMac a free run at RG3.


What Olineman in their right mind would leave their block on a DT up the middle to go and block a different defender? When that different defender is Aldon, it may be justifiable. -7 on the sack.

I remember seeing the same thing when I watched the film and made me think about the affect Aldon has - can't be overstated.

Originally posted by jonnydel:
Here's our first sack of the game:

14:23 1st QTR:


Here, we're going to run our base 3-4 defense against WA who's come out in 21 Personnel. This is a great example of how the pass rush helps the coverage. We're going to run a cover-1 man.


WA tries to run fake out of the read-option - doesn't work.


This is the route that would best beat the man-coverage. However, RGIII can't step up into the pocket to see the throw well.


The ball should be released by this point - but, the rush forced RGIII to move so he couldn't hit the throw. This is a timing throw and our pass rush adjusted the timing.


RayMac actually gets doubled on this play but bull rushes the guard back into RGIII. Brooks checks to make sure a RB isn't flaring out to his side and then comes on the rush.


You can see here how RayMac pushed the guard right into RGIII's face. If he doesn't, it's an easy throw and catch to the man-beating hook route. But, since RGIII can't step up into that throw, he tries to step back and move on to another read.


You see here how the receiver was open on the play.


Since RGIII steps back, he's right into Smith's rush lane and gets sacked.

This is an instance where the pass rush helps the coverage. Later, on the game-clinching sack, it's the coverage that helps the rush.