NY Giants coaches film analysis

Aldon owning the RT, then getting triple teamed (incomplete pass).

Originally posted by jonnydel:

Both these plays we had Crabs running the skinny post. One complete the other not - they've already been touched on. But, in that, the free safety is now looking to jump these skinny posts.

Here's a pass to Crabs on 1st down.....


NY shows the single safety look. This time, instead of a skinny post from Crabs, we run deeper slant pattern.


You see NY dropping into their zones and how it leaves a gap between the zones.

The free safety watches Kap's eyes and jumps, what he thinks is coming, a skinny post. But, we've got the slant in play here. I illustrated the depth of the different routes so you could see how the safety is trying to jump the skinny post.


Because the safety moved himself out of position to play the wrong route, he's now inside Crabtree and in a bad angle. This has opened up a nice hole in the zones.


You see how the safety was out of position and now has to try and recover.


Crabs then outruns them to the endzone for the TD!!!!

I thought that was a good halftime adjustment to set up the big play.

No one cares about stupid 'good halftime adjustments'.

NCommand's statistic with cherry-picked 1st down attempts is misleading and a little dishonest, but if the Niners are really #30 in 1st down production overall, the question remains why they are actually #14 in 3rd down conversions. It's no secret that 1st down production matters for 3rd down conversions, and the team (this includes players and coaches) obviously doesn't do a good job on 1st downs.

But where does the improvement on 3rd downs come from? How do the Niners fare on 2nd down? Because if the Niners are in the bottom third of the league on 2nd down, as well, then the argument that Kaepernick is stinking it up on 3rd down obviously doesn't hold up.

Originally posted by zugschef:
NCommand's statistic with cherry-picked 1st down attempts is misleading and a little dishonest, but if the Niners are really #30 in 1st down production overall, the question remains why they are actually #14 in 3rd down conversions. It's no secret that 1st down production matters for 3rd down conversions, and the team (this includes players and coaches) obviously doesn't do a good job on 1st downs.

But where does the improvement on 3rd downs come from? How do the Niners fare on 2nd down? Because if the Niners are in the bottom third of the league on 2nd down, as well, then the argument that Kaepernick is stinking it up on 3rd down obviously doesn't hold up.

Of course it doesn't hold up. Kap is saving the team on third down. There was one pass to Boldin early in the game that was a rifle bullet, if the ball was thrown any slower, the defenders would have knocked it away. Kap has converted a ton of first downs for us this year, despite the fact that our first down production is setting up our team in long yardage situations.

Originally posted by BrianGO:
Of course it doesn't hold up. Kap is saving the team on third down. There was one pass to Boldin early in the game that was a rifle bullet, if the ball was thrown any slower, the defenders would have knocked it away. Kap has converted a ton of first downs for us this year, despite the fact that our first down production is setting up our team in long yardage situations.

Well that's equal to an anecdote, but not a quantifiable fact. The point is really how the Niners produce on 2nd down.

Originally posted by zugschef:

Originally posted by BrianGO:

Of course it doesn't hold up. Kap is saving the team on third down. There was one pass to Boldin early in the game that was a rifle bullet, if the ball was thrown any slower, the defenders would have knocked it away. Kap has converted a ton of first downs for us this year, despite the fact that our first down production is setting up our team in long yardage situations.

Well that's equal to an anecdote, but not a quantifiable fact. The point is really how the Niners produce on 2nd down.

It's always a stupid run up the middle after a too cute play call that backs us up

49ers had some explosive run plays during the game. Here are the 4 of the largest gains by a RB.

Orange blocks are missed blocks.


Big Runs #1
Zone left. I gave Martin a missed block here, but in his defense, there's no way he could have known that Gore cut it back. Martin expected the play to go left and that's the leverage he attempted his block with. Martin's block should be black.


Excellent vision by Gore to see the cutback lane. +14

Big Runs #2

Counter right (run play to the weakside of formation).


+17

Big Runs #3

Jumbo package with JMartin and Looney in. Iupati pulling. Tough assignment for Vance as he has to come across the formation to lead.


Good speed by Vance to be able to lead and sustain his block on a defensive back. +16

Big Runs #4

Counter right. ADavis combo blocks with Boone (sort of) and moves to the second level. Iupati pulls to provide the kickout block. FB lead.


ADavis gets the MLB just enough to make the play work. +11

Originally posted by thl408:
I gave Martin a missed block here, but in his defense, there's no way he could have known that Gore cut it back. Martin expected the play to go left and that's the leverage he attempted his block with. Martin's block should be black.

The same applies to Vernon, though. He anticipates a run to the left and that's how he intends to engage the safety, but after Gore's cutback #35 runs away from the block. Exactly the same issue.

Notice how many defenders are in the box for the Big Runs. Running against 8 in the box can work if the blocking assignments are won by the run blockers. Although it helps when the run defense sucks.

Originally posted by zugschef:

Originally posted by thl408:
I gave Martin a missed block here, but in his defense, there's no way he could have known that Gore cut it back. Martin expected the play to go left and that's the leverage he attempted his block with. Martin's block should be black.

The same applies to Vernon, though. He anticipates a run to the left and that's how he intends to engage the safety, but after Gore's cutback #35 runs away from the block. Exactly the same issue.

Good point. It's late and I saw him whiff so bad I had to give him an orange. You're right, same issue.

Originally posted by zugschef:
NCommand's statistic with cherry-picked 1st down attempts is misleading and a little dishonest, but if the Niners are really #30 in 1st down production overall, the question remains why they are actually #14 in 3rd down conversions. It's no secret that 1st down production matters for 3rd down conversions, and the team (this includes players and coaches) obviously doesn't do a good job on 1st downs.

But where does the improvement on 3rd downs come from? How do the Niners fare on 2nd down? Because if the Niners are in the bottom third of the league on 2nd down, as well, then the argument that Kaepernick is stinking it up on 3rd down obviously doesn't hold up.

Pulled up these stats from pro-football-reference:

Average Yards Gained Per Down

1st down -- 5.45 yards
2nd down -- 6.16 yards
3rd down -- 8.70 yards

Yards Per Rushing Attempt

1st down -- 4.9 yards
2nd down -- 3.8 yards
3rd down -- 4.6 yards

Yards Per Passing Attempt

1st down -- 5.2 yards
2nd down -- 6.7 yards
3rd down -- 8.9 yards

QB Rating Per Down

1st down -- 80.4
2nd down -- 86.1
3rd down -- 100.9

From what I can tell, 3rd down is our money down. Kap is a big part of that, no doubt. No surprise we run most effectively on 1st down. 3rd down production probably stems from having many 3rd and longs. Kap is usually trying to throw past the 1st down marker in these situations. He's not a check-down type of guy on 3rd down.

Another interesting stat I found was that the 49ers' average down and distance on 3rd down is actually GREATER than 2nd down.

Average yards to go on 2nd down -- 7.59
Average yards to go on 3rd down -- 7.61

Basically, this means this team sucks royally on 2nd down.