Originally posted by jonnydel:
Originally posted by genus49:
Originally posted by thl408:
3rd Down Failure #2
1st Down: Gore for -1
2nd Down: Incomplete pass
49ers: Not sure what's going on to Kap's left. Looks rather vanilla. To Kap's right is a clear out by SJ for VD's out route. The whole play looks rather basic, but it got someone open.
NYG: cover 4
Kap drops back and looks to his left. With the CB over Lloyd playing with a large cushion, there's nothing to be had there. Boldin's Curls gets defeated as well. The two DL across from Boone and ADavis just stunted.
Kap looks to his right for a split second before the stunting DT loops around ADavis and has a clear path to Kap.
Kap sees the rusher coming at him and checks down to Hyde over the middle. VD was open along the sidelines, but the pressure didn't allow Kap to see him.
jonnydel alluded to this play earlier in this thread: "To me, when I see a QB miss a read against cover 4 when the defense showed, pre-snap, a 4 shell look and stayed in that look post snap and the QB never looks to the side of the play to beat a cover 4 and has an open TE - it's not a system issue." Read more at http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/180298-giants-coaches-film-analysis/page5/#6DmL6gWlfU5hVYdk.99
huh?
I'm lost on this one. How does he not look to that side? He scans the whole field on the play but due to the pass rush pulls the trigger quickly. Considering the only guy open was Davis...given his recent struggles I don't blame him for not making the rushed throw to him.
You guys are nitpicking like crazy on that one. Makes it hard to believe there isn't bias sneaking in there.
Also don't you get tired starting your breakdowns of the offense with "not sure what's going on there"?
Ok, here's my issue: To break the play down fully -
The left side of the field is more of the cover 2 zone beating combo. You put the corner in a tough spot in that, if he covers Boldin, the streak is open and vice versa. From the snap - you could see a cover 4 shell. At the snap of the ball, CK should be keeping his eyes on the safeties looking for if they rotate over into single high, split wide in cover 2 or drop back in cover 4. What he has to keep in his mind when he comes to the LOS are the possible defenses he could see out of this look. Based of the LB alignment and depth - not likely a blitz here. So, you're looking for cover 2,3, or 4. If you see cover 2 zone, you should immediately be looking for your streaks on the "rail" shot. that open zone between the corner and safety. If you see cover 2 -man, you'll look to Boldin on his hook route. If you see cover 4, you look to the Johnson/VD side for the out route to VD. If you see cover 3(highly unlikely on 3rd and long) you take the shot to 1-1 coverage. My issue is, CK doesn't read the safeties, he assumes cover 2 man(granted, they did run this a few times earlier up to this point) but, the off is something NY doesn't show in a cover 2 very often. From the snap, CK doesn't watch the safeties drop straight back(showing the cover 4) so he's not aware of the fact that he's looking at the wrong side of the play. To me, he should've gone to the Johnson/VD side first, that way, it's not a matter of pressure getting there before he can make the read, it's knowing that the other side IS his primary read.
This is something I've talked about quite a bit. CK will get rather confident in his pre-snap reads sometimes and doesn't bother checking the safeties. It's hurt him in not looking safeties off and by not double checking the plays.(this exact same thing happened on the last play of the NFCCG).
I'm not asking that he be able to scan the whole way across during the play - that would be nitpicking. It's that he needs to have a better understanding of the totality of mental calisthenics he has to go through in the process of each play(process being from the moment the huddle is broken through to the end of the play).
Thanks for filling in the blanks. And I agree with your assessment. Some may consider it harsh, but that's what it's all about. To understand what could have happened to make the play work.
The combo to the left is a cover2 buster. The "rail shot" is designed to target the "honey hole", like you said, behind the CB, in front of the safety. For some more background on the rail shot and honey hole, here is the same route combo versus @CAR from last season's playoff game (versus cover2 zone). This is Patton's big catch. Same route combo to Kap's left as the play discussed above.

QP is in the red square. That's the rail shot to the honey hole. Behind the cover2 CB, in front of the cover 2 safety.


From: http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/176616-analysis-carolina-panthers-coaches-film/page5/#post64
This is why I say, "not sure what's going on here". So someone can fill in the blanks.

... has serious gameplan and coaching issues. And I really don't see a difference between Luck's or Wilson's leadership. Keap did a fine job leading in Nevada and winning the team over after Smith was hurt.
My reasoning regarding the ridicules nature of the audit.
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