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  • thl408
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This is the Hail Mary attempt that nearly broke all our hearts and televisions.

Check out the confusion among the 49er defenders. Wilhoite throws his arms out as if he doesn't know what to do. Cox is telling Ward to get to the other side of the field. Too much confusion for what is an organized defense.





No idea what Ward is doing. Is there really a threat to be covered 10 yards from the LoS? Why are Wilhoite and Borland even on the field and what are they doing? All the while NO gets a 3v3 situation with 3 DBs that aren't considered tall. Where is DJohnson? Why is Reid, one of the taller, lanky defenders not on the same side of the field as Graham? Some have suggested putting in Osgood in this situation which I think is a great idea. Need height and physicality here.


3v3 as Brees throws up a prayer.







Cox would probably make the play if he wasn't pushed, but it shouldn't have come down to a 3v3 situation. 49ers dodged a dagger to the heart.
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The Hyde TD run

49ers: Tackle Lead, toss left
Boldin lines up in the slot


Boldin is sent in motion to get a good angle for his crack back block on the DE.


The crack back block (yellow) allows Staley to pull and lead.


Staley nails his block.


Iupati is unable to sustain his block on the MLB so Miller has to be used to clean that up.


Because two blockers (Iupati, Miller) were used to block one defender, there are 3 defenders closing in on Hyde. #1 and #3 are the safeties. #2 is the backside LB.


Hyde cuts back to the inside. Either one or both of #1 and #2 over pursues the play.


Two cutbacks. Nice moves.


Love that block by Boldin.
Originally posted by thl408:
The Hyde TD run

That second cut was, dare I say, Gore-esque. Thing of beauty.
wow, Hyde seriously needs more reps.
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Here's the big 4th down play.

49ers run two verticals up the sideline (Lloyd, Crabs). I am fairly confident that there should have been a third vertical by VD.
NO: cover2 zone


ADavis gets beat around the edge and Kap has to evade the pressure. The DE near VD gives VD a smack instead immediately starting his pass rush. This knocks VD down. This will end up greatly affecting the play.


Blue circles are the safeties' deep 1/2 assignments in cover2. The orange circles are the holes in cover2 Zone. Lloyd's and Crab's routes are designed to attack the holes along the sideline. VD's route would have attacked the middle of the field had he not fallen down due to the DE shoving him. It would have been 3 vertical routes versus the two deep safeties. Boldin's route is used to hold the safety for a split second to buy Lloyd some room. Kap starts to roll right. #32 is safety Kenny Vacarro - the first safety selected in the 2013 draft (3 picks before Reid). Purple (Hook defender) and Blue (Hook/Curl defender) will factor large in this play.


With VD never providing a threat to the middle of the field, the safety can widen out towards the sideline to defend Lloyd with no fear of leaving the middle of the field open. The window to Lloyd has closed. As Kap rolls right, the Hook defender (purple) mirrors him.


With Kap rolled out to the right, the Hook defender (purple) flows towards Kap. Gore takes the Hook/Curl defender (blue) with him. Vaccaro abandons his deep zone when he sees that no one is near VD (hook/curl zone).


With the deep safety removed, Crabs is wide open. Kap is mid windup.


Crabs just caught the ball.


Kap's rollout takes away the Hook defender. Gore's route takes away the Hook/Curl defender, which causes VD to be open. Vaccaro comes up to defend VD which causes Crabs to be open. Had Vaccaro not come up to defend VD, VD would have been wide open. Still, a deep safety should never abandon his zone when there is a deep threat nearby.


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Originally posted by defenderDX:
Originally posted by ChazBoner:
can we get a breakdown of the fingering Grahm received, courtesy of The Joker?



This play signified a key moment of the game for NO in which they almost completed a what-would-be, "finger-Graham double whammy tap". This play doesn't happen without the Joker. But NO did a great job of defending here negating the big play.

4Q 1:52

NO: Vertical' stretch leap
Fans: Rub route. aka, finger tap. With a double whammy.


After NO completes the vertical stretch leap, you can see the Joker immediately has his eyes set down field.





Following that, you see the next phase of the play where the 2 fans to the weakside of Graham are now looking to execute what is known as, the "double whammy".




The double whammy works, as they keep outside contain allowing for the Joker to execute the finger tap rub route. All the Joker has to do is make the play...





But the Joker's hand is not where it needs to be, as he has no leverage.




Result of the play is just tapping no fingering.


beg to differ good sir. here's a zoomed in view. You can clearly see teh joker start off with the "hey good job" pat, but then sure enough, moves in for teh kill. By the end of the clip, he's stopped patting and is fingertip deep in datass.

Originally posted by Niners816:
Originally posted by Giedi:
I like how our DB's are so much better in coverage than in the Goldson/Whitner days. I'd rather have the incomplete/knockdown/interception defense than the *let them catch it and I'll knock him out* defense. This is one of the times the prevent defense didn't prevent us from losing. I still hate the prevent defense though.

Totally agree...it's ashame for the bull s**t suspension and injury bug or this would have been the best defense of the harbaugh era, IMO.

I feel the same but I'm also very happy with the #2 ranked defense as well (top 5 in just about every category).

BTW: I tried to respond to your email but your mailbox came back as "full."
In regards to putting in someone like Osgood with little to no experience defending, don't we run a big risk of a PI call? Even if he is in good position, I always worry about a defender panicking and getting a flag thrown on them.
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Originally posted by sacniner:
In regards to putting in someone like Osgood with little to no experience defending, don't we run a big risk of a PI call? Even if he is in good position, I always worry about a defender panicking and getting a flag thrown on them.

While Osgood doesn't have experience as a defensive back, there isn't very much cornerback technique to know in order to stand at the goal line, track, and swat a pass away. No need to read a WR's hips, no need for understanding of route combinations, no need to plant, turn, and flip the hips. Good point about a player not used to defending panicking , so of course, he would have to be coached up to defend it (hail mary). Plus, he'd have to show in practice that he is capable of it. But Osgood's large frame, lanky arms, and physical nature would be a benefit much more than what Borland and Wilhoite bring to the Hail Mary defense unit. Plus he's a natural WR so he has experience tracking a ball. Who knows, maybe he was actually tried out in practice and wasn't up to snuff.
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I'm pretty sure we had a TO left before the Hail Mary. Look at the formation, call TO. Basic basic stuff. I was shocked when we didn't call one and I saw the scrambling before the snap. I knew before the ball was thrown it was gonna get caught.
[ Edited by Antix on Nov 13, 2014 at 1:28 PM ]
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Originally posted by Antix:
I'm pretty sure we had a TO left before the Hail Mary. Look at the formation, call TO. Basic basic stuff. I was shocked when we didn't call one and I saw the scrambling before the snap. I knew before the ball was thrown it was gonna get caught.

I was pretty surprised they didn't call a TO with all the confusion. Got lucky because it looked like a disaster from the start.
Originally posted by thl408:
This is the Hail Mary attempt that nearly broke all our hearts and televisions.

Check out the confusion among the 49er defenders. Wilhoite throws his arms out as if he doesn't know what to do. Cox is telling Ward to get to the other side of the field. Too much confusion for what is an organized defense.





No idea what Ward is doing. Is there really a threat to be covered 10 yards from the LoS? Why are Wilhoite and Borland even on the field and what are they doing? All the while NO gets a 3v3 situation with 3 DBs that aren't considered tall. Where is DJohnson? Why is Reid, one of the taller, lanky defenders not on the same side of the field as Graham? Some have suggested putting in Osgood in this situation which I think is a great idea. Need height and physicality here.


3v3 as Brees throws up a prayer.







Cox would probably make the play if he wasn't pushed, but it shouldn't have come down to a 3v3 situation. 49ers dodged a dagger to the heart.

So scary...3 DB's...only one even makes a play on the ball (and shoved aside). Bethea? Really?
Originally posted by Disp:
Originally posted by Antix:
I'm pretty sure we had a TO left before the Hail Mary. Look at the formation, call TO. Basic basic stuff. I was shocked when we didn't call one and I saw the scrambling before the snap. I knew before the ball was thrown it was gonna get caught.

I was pretty surprised they didn't call a TO with all the confusion. Got lucky because it looked like a disaster from the start.

This was going to be my #1 comment as well...situational awareness here at the very end of the game? Or did we burn up all our TO's by this point?
Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
Originally posted by thl408:
The Hyde TD run

That second cut was, dare I say, Gore-esque. Thing of beauty.

You guys have to watch the crack-down block by Boldin here! Boldin levels this defender, then he gets leveled by Boone to the ground at the next level and then gets leveled AGAIN by Boone spinning him in circles at the end. Straight comedy! The guy at this point has no idea where he's at or which direction he's going.
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This is the QDial sack.

OT 1st & 10
NO uses playaction to set up a deep strike.
49ers bring 5 man pressure out of their base 3-4.


Playfake to sell the zone left run. TJE is engaged with the RT. Dial is engaged with the Center. The RG is the player that has no one in front of him.


TJE crashes into the RG's leg, and will end up tripping, as Dial will disengage from the Center and loop around. Because TJE hits the RG's leg, the RG is slowed down and cannot properly stay in front of Dial.



Brees finishes his dropback and looks to his right at #84 (Stills). Cox has over the top positioning on the vertical route, is bailing, and defeats it.


Dial gets around the RG.


Brees is mid windup about to target Graham who is covered by Borland and Cully. Hard to tell since Graham and Stills are in the same general direction, but I think it's Graham because there is no way he should be targeting Stills who is easily double covered by Cox and Bethea. Dial is in Brees' face.


Dial notches his first career sack. -5 yards.


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