Just rewatched the game.

sdaddy101269 · 2014-09-15T11:22:46-07:00

I just rewatched the game. A few things stand out: Our play calling was awful, very predictable. Kaep stared down the WR on the first Int. Also we passed a lot against 4 man fronts with 7 dropping in coverage and ran against 8 man fronts. When we were under center we were very productive, ran the ball well, play action was good and the passing game was MUCH better. We had 3 drops that were awful. We had 10 penalties for 85, right before the half with :56 seconds to play we get the roughing the passer on Dial. Before that it's 1st and 15 . on the play Cox drops an Int. instead of 2nd and 15 from the 40 it's first down on our 25. Two plays later they score. Btw, Ward gets beat buy Marshall made a GREAT catch.17-7 at the half. Second half we are under center and the play action passing to Crabs results in a 25 yard gain to the Bears. Next play we try to run against a 9 man box for a loss of 1. Next play on 2nd and eleven against a 6 man box Kaep runs for 12 and a first down. The next play they run 5 against 6 and still get pressure, forcing Kaep to run ( this is the play Tillman goes out). We eventually have 1st and goal from the 6, try 2 runs against a and 11,that's right 11 man front! We try to run out of the shotgun for no gain and Kick the fg. 20-7. 9 minute drive, 3 damn points. On the Bears first possession, on 3rd and 9 lemonier gets penalty to extend the drive. Next play Cox and Bethe miss the deep ball Int. 3 and 7 Donte Johnson gets a holding call, extends drive first down Bears. At this point we have 13 penalties for 105 yards! The Bears have 9/53. The Bears eventually score. Something of note, We got ZERO pressure on Cutler on this drive, there are plays where he has no rushers around him for 3-4 yards! Our next play Fuller INTs the ball. Really fluky, he's actually out of position which actually allows him to be in position to get the pick. Crabs bobbles the ball and Fuller takes it from him. Next play Bennett beats Reid on the push off. 21-20 Bears. On our next series (Davis gets hurt) we are 3rd and 7, Staley gets a false start which makes it 3rd and 12 from the 35. the next snap they get pressure with 4 against 5, Iupati and Staley, flushes Kaep out of the pocket, and he throws the Int. All of the WR routes are at least 17 yards. not sure why that is. Bears next play from scrimmage, Cutler has 5, one thousand counts to throw the ball and completes a 29 yd pass to Jeffrey. 1st and goal from the 8. 2 plays later. TD to Marshall on the fade. 28-20. This was a team loss. the defense, the Oline, the play calling, Kaep have to be better. We can't win if we don't play 49er football. 118 yards in penalties,turnovers and poor line play is not it.

Sep 15, 2014 at 11:36 AM

TheRickestRick
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First.... Please edit your post if you wanna get responses. Make more paragraphs

Second... our playcalling on both offense and defense was atrocious. People wanna lay off Roman but we are running a college offense against pro teams. I know everyone watches seattles games, that is an OC who can call plays. Kap had a horrible game last night but the playcalling also left him out in the cold. Soo many times he got the jitters because AGAIN AFTER 3 SEASONS we have a system where its all or nothing. 90% of the time Kap got the jitters because we are trying to get the first down in one play, and not a sequence of plays. Receivers arent breaking off their routes to give Kap an option under duress.

The offense is undisciplined and at this point there is no excuse. Everyone is to blame, but Roman most of all. It starts with him in this offense and if he sees that Kap is trying to force things then ADJUST! Kap throws an interception and we are still running nothing but 10+ yard routes... how hard is it to get the concept of a QB needs to find his groove so call high percentage pass plays. AGAIN he leaned on Gore too much and left Hyde in the cold until it was too late. Also... seriously!?!?! We are going back to the read option as our "wrinkle"? Pathetic all around.

Sep 15, 2014 at 11:39 AM

sdaddy101269
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Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
First.... Please edit your post if you wanna get responses. Make more paragraphs

Second... our playcalling on both offense and defense was atrocious. People wanna lay off Roman but we are running a college offense against pro teams. I know everyone watches seattles games, that is an OC who can call plays. Kap had a horrible game last night but the playcalling also left him out in the cold. Soo many times he got the jitters because AGAIN AFTER 3 SEASONS we have a system where its all or nothing. 90% of the time Kap got the jitters because we are trying to get the first down in one play, and not a sequence of plays. Receivers arent breaking off their routes to give Kap an option under duress.

The offense is undisciplined and at this point there is no excuse. Everyone is to blame, but Roman most of all. It starts with him in this offense and if he sees that Kap is trying to force things then ADJUST! Kap throws an interception and we are still running nothing but 10+ yard routes... how hard is it to get the concept of a QB needs to find his groove so call high percentage pass plays. AGAIN he leaned on Gore too much and left Hyde in the cold until it was too late. Also... seriously!?!?! We are going back to the read option as our "wrinkle"? Pathetic all around.

Sorry I actually wrote it from my phone haha. I need to go through it.

Sep 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

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3 straight runs up the gut from the 6 was all you needed to know. Game over!

Sep 15, 2014 at 11:48 AM

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Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
First.... Please edit your post if you wanna get responses. Make more paragraphs

Second... our playcalling on both offense and defense was atrocious. People wanna lay off Roman but we are running a college offense against pro teams. I know everyone watches seattles games, that is an OC who can call plays. Kap had a horrible game last night but the playcalling also left him out in the cold. Soo many times he got the jitters because AGAIN AFTER 3 SEASONS we have a system where its all or nothing. 90% of the time Kap got the jitters because we are trying to get the first down in one play, and not a sequence of plays. Receivers arent breaking off their routes to give Kap an option under duress.

The offense is undisciplined and at this point there is no excuse. Everyone is to blame, but Roman most of all. It starts with him in this offense and if he sees that Kap is trying to force things then ADJUST! Kap throws an interception and we are still running nothing but 10+ yard routes... how hard is it to get the concept of a QB needs to find his groove so call high percentage pass plays. AGAIN he leaned on Gore too much and left Hyde in the cold until it was too late. Also... seriously!?!?! We are going back to the read option as our "wrinkle"? Pathetic all around.

This definitely isn't going to work this season. Ever time pretty much has that figured out. Your not going to beat Denver and Seattle twice, with the read option. We have studs in Stevie Johnson and Lloyd. Lets use them or at least scheme plays for them instead of always Boldin and Crabs

Sep 15, 2014 at 11:54 AM

sdaddy101269
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Originally posted by Baldie:
Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
First.... Please edit your post if you wanna get responses. Make more paragraphs

Second... our playcalling on both offense and defense was atrocious. People wanna lay off Roman but we are running a college offense against pro teams. I know everyone watches seattles games, that is an OC who can call plays. Kap had a horrible game last night but the playcalling also left him out in the cold. Soo many times he got the jitters because AGAIN AFTER 3 SEASONS we have a system where its all or nothing. 90% of the time Kap got the jitters because we are trying to get the first down in one play, and not a sequence of plays. Receivers arent breaking off their routes to give Kap an option under duress.

The offense is undisciplined and at this point there is no excuse. Everyone is to blame, but Roman most of all. It starts with him in this offense and if he sees that Kap is trying to force things then ADJUST! Kap throws an interception and we are still running nothing but 10+ yard routes... how hard is it to get the concept of a QB needs to find his groove so call high percentage pass plays. AGAIN he leaned on Gore too much and left Hyde in the cold until it was too late. Also... seriously!?!?! We are going back to the read option as our "wrinkle"? Pathetic all around.

This definitely isn't going to work this season. Ever time pretty much has that figured out. Your not going to beat Denver and Seattle twice, with the read option. We have studs in Stevie Johnson and Lloyd. Lets use them or at least scheme plays for them instead of always Boldin and Crabs

Exactly! Stevie Johnson needs more play time and touches. He gets open fairly easily and runs great, but unorthodox, routes. Hard to cover. Lloyd can stretch the defense and Boldin works well in space. On a side note, Fuller was not worried about crabtrees speed AT ALL.

Sep 15, 2014 at 12:08 PM

Baldie
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Originally posted by sdaddy101269:
Exactly! Stevie Johnson needs more play time and touches. He gets open fairly easily and runs great, but unorthodox, routes. Hard to cover. Lloyd can stretch the defense and Boldin works well in space. On a side note, Fuller was not worried about crabtrees speed AT ALL.

None of the niners WR's exactly has "scary" speed. What they do have is good hands and they know how to get open. Lloyd and Vernon would probably be the speedsters and I was really surprised Lloyd was inactive vs the Bears. I mean even if he doesn't play, at least dress him just in-case. You might need to go to a Plan B at some point in a game and we needed that Plan B.

Sep 15, 2014 at 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by NCommand:
3 straight runs up the gut from the 6 was all you needed to know. Game over!

Yeah they could have put it away with a TD. Can't believe they didn't take a shot in the end zone. You can't play to not lose in this league.

Sep 15, 2014 at 1:03 PM

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Originally posted by Hitman49:

Originally posted by NCommand:
3 straight runs up the gut from the 6 was all you needed to know. Game over!

Yeah they could have put it away with a TD. Can't believe they didn't take a shot in the end zone. You can't play to not lose in this league.

I was so encouraged by a first down PA pass at the goal line last week. I guess we hit our quota for unpredictability...

Sep 15, 2014 at 2:17 PM

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Originally posted by NCommand:
3 straight runs up the gut from the 6 was all you needed to know. Game over!

I wanted to punch Roman in the face after that series so bad

Sep 15, 2014 at 2:19 PM

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Originally posted by tohara3:

Originally posted by NCommand:
3 straight runs up the gut from the 6 was all you needed to know. Game over!

I wanted to punch Roman in the face after that series so bad

I wanted to last week in our win when he ran 7 straight runs to settle for a FG.... its just lazy playcalling. Not to mention it tells the players we are conceding a FG.

Sep 15, 2014 at 3:03 PM

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Originally posted by TheRickestRick:
First.... Please edit your post if you wanna get responses. Make more paragraphs

Second... our playcalling on both offense and defense was atrocious. People wanna lay off Roman but we are running a college offense against pro teams. I know everyone watches seattles games, that is an OC who can call plays. Kap had a horrible game last night but the playcalling also left him out in the cold. Soo many times he got the jitters because AGAIN AFTER 3 SEASONS we have a system where its all or nothing. 90% of the time Kap got the jitters because we are trying to get the first down in one play, and not a sequence of plays. Receivers arent breaking off their routes to give Kap an option under duress.

The offense is undisciplined and at this point there is no excuse. Everyone is to blame, but Roman most of all. It starts with him in this offense and if he sees that Kap is trying to force things then ADJUST! Kap throws an interception and we are still running nothing but 10+ yard routes... how hard is it to get the concept of a QB needs to find his groove so call high percentage pass plays. AGAIN he leaned on Gore too much and left Hyde in the cold until it was too late. Also... seriously!?!?! We are going back to the read option as our "wrinkle"? Pathetic all around.

Good Post!

Agree EXCEPT for blaming Roman MOST of all.

IMO, JH is totally to blame for the play calling.

Sep 15, 2014 at 3:04 PM

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Originally posted by NCommand:
3 straight runs up the gut from the 6 was all you needed to know. Game over!

[b]You Nailed IT![/b]

Sep 15, 2014 at 3:05 PM

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Originally posted by Baldie:
This definitely isn't going to work this season. Ever time pretty much has that figured out. Your not going to beat Denver and Seattle twice, with the read option. We have studs in Stevie Johnson and Lloyd. Lets use them or at least scheme plays for them instead of always Boldin and Crabs

Agree.

Also let's use Tank and Dial more since our pass rush went nowhere in the 2nd half.

Sep 15, 2014 at 3:07 PM

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Originally posted by Baldie:
None of the niners WR's exactly has "scary" speed. What they do have is good hands and they know how to get open. Lloyd and Vernon would probably be the speedsters and I was really surprised Lloyd was inactive vs the Bears. I mean even if he doesn't play, at least dress him just in-case. You might need to go to a Plan B at some point in a game and we needed that Plan B.

Failure of coaching.