CB situation

We need to bring Mark Roman back....

Originally posted by InsertNameHere:
We need to bring Mark Roman back....

LOL. Not a chance

Originally posted by elguapo:
I've been worried about our 2nd cb since Rogers. I'm worried about our 2nd cb again in wright. Maybe dontae Johnson is less of a worry but either way we have a very good cb in Brock and 2 pro bowl safeties. Everyone else, I worry will get burned or exposed as the weak link on our pass d and I just don't want to hold my breath everytime a qb throws a deep pass against us like we had to for so many years until recently.

I still don't forgive Brock for the td on 3rd and 14 in the nfcc
I still don't forgive cully for the td given up in the sb
I still don't forgive Rogers for the td given up on fourth down in the nfcc

We need a very good cb that can be consistent. I hope it's reaser or whoever. I don't care. Bc a big play could mean the difference between sb #6.

You won't find a corner who has never given up a TD pass.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by elguapo:

I've been worried about our 2nd cb since Rogers. I'm worried about our 2nd cb again in wright. Maybe dontae Johnson is less of a worry but either way we have a very good cb in Brock and 2 pro bowl safeties. Everyone else, I worry will get burned or exposed as the weak link on our pass d and I just don't want to hold my breath everytime a qb throws a deep pass against us like we had to for so many years until recently.

I still don't forgive Brock for the td on 3rd and 14 in the nfcc
I still don't forgive cully for the td given up in the sb
I still don't forgive Rogers for the td given up on fourth down in the nfcc

We need a very good cb that can be consistent. I hope it's reaser or whoever. I don't care. Bc a big play could mean the difference between sb #6.

You won't find a corner who has never given up a TD pass.

What makes anyone confident Brock comes back heathy?
If we knew we could depend on at least him to be our #1 and healthy then I would be a little confident that with the younger guys we can find the proper combination for #2 etc.

Originally posted by Bluesbro:
I was not as high on Culliver as most people seem to be here, but what do I know. Injury history, homophobic comments and brandishing brass knuckles did not make him worth that much money imo.

Agree! The baggage he carried was starting to make him expendable...that and his price tag. The 9ers have been able to replace good CBs almost every year rather than over pay for their FAs and the beat goes on. Would it be nice to have two shutdown CBs? Sure, but it would take half the defensive cap.

Aside from this, our young CBs seem to be very talented and if the coaches can get them on the field it will be a solid group. Baalke has had mixed results with injured draftees but both Reaser and Acker have looked very good...so I'll cross my fingers!

This season reminds me a lot of 1981, the season that four draft picks changed a franchise. From one of the worst secondaries in football to the best in one season. Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright, Carlton Williamson were the 3 who started alongside Dwight Hicks. Draftee Lynn Thomas was a backup.

This season the 49er have a real chance to put a secondary on the field that could be their best in decades. The two safeties, Reid and Bethea, are both Pro Bowl quality and leaders. Tartt is a big safety who will de-cleat the opponent. At CB, Brock is an excellent cover man.

The redshirts, Kenneth Acker and Kevin Reaser are both studs. Add Dontae Johnson, Chris Cook, Cromartie, McFadden, Ward, Wright, etc. and we only have to find one stud among the whole bunch to find a quality starting secondary, with plenty of depth.

The defense will set the tone this season.

Originally posted by kezarvet49:
This season reminds me a lot of 1981, the season that four draft picks changed a franchise. From one of the worst secondaries in football to the best in one season. Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright, Carlton Williamson were the 3 who started alongside Dwight Hicks. Draftee Lynn Thomas was a backup.

This season the 49er have a real chance to put a secondary on the field that could be their best in decades. The two safeties, Reid and Bethea, are both Pro Bowl quality and leaders. Tartt is a big safety who will de-cleat the opponent. At CB, Brock is an excellent cover man.

The redshirts, Kenneth Acker and Kevin Reaser are both studs. Add Dontae Johnson, Chris Cook, Cromartie, McFadden, Ward, Wright, etc. and we only have to find one stud among the whole bunch to find a quality starting secondary, with plenty of depth.

The defense will set the tone this season.

Hope this is true! It turned out that those DBs (Lott, Wright and Williamson) were elite players. The current 9ers have more depth than that 81 team did in the backfield but will they have the quality? With Reid and Bethea I think they will...but...?

I hope so but I think we have a great season

i feel that it's only a matter of time before Tartt takes over at the SAFETY position... to me, i like him a lot more on the FS.

not sure yet if he's got Ed Reid's range, but when I saw him play against TCU, he reminded most of Sean!!

Originally posted by 9moon:
i feel that it's only a matter of time before Tartt takes over at the SAFETY position... to me, i like him a lot more on the FS.

not sure yet if he's got Ed Reid's range, but when I saw him play against TCU, he reminded most of Sean!!

no way Tartt takes over any Safety position this year..unless our guys get hurt...maybe next year if Bethea leaves

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:
i feel that it's only a matter of time before Tartt takes over at the SAFETY position... to me, i like him a lot more on the FS.

not sure yet if he's got Ed Reid's range, but when I saw him play against TCU, he reminded most of Sean!!

no way Tartt takes over any Safety position this year..unless our guys get hurt...maybe next year if Bethea leaves

With the NFL's emphasis on coverage over hitting I don't see Tartt taking over FS...unless, as you say, there are continued injuries. But the great thing about the DBs is flexibility. Many of the guys can play anywhere so the coaches can really disguise coverages better.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by 9moon:
i feel that it's only a matter of time before Tartt takes over at the SAFETY position... to me, i like him a lot more on the FS.

not sure yet if he's got Ed Reid's range, but when I saw him play against TCU, he reminded most of Sean!!

no way Tartt takes over any Safety position this year..unless our guys get hurt...maybe next year if Bethea leaves

With the NFL's emphasis on coverage over hitting I don't see Tartt taking over FS...unless, as you say, there are continued injuries. But the great thing about the DBs is flexibility. Many of the guys can play anywhere so the coaches can really disguise coverages better.

The"excessive" hitting penalties lessen Tart's impact. It will still matter But not like the old days when Ronnie would explode guys.

Depends how well Tartt can cover. IMO, he'll be tested against Jimmy Graham and we'll see what we have.

Originally posted by kezarvet49:
This season reminds me a lot of 1981, the season that four draft picks changed a franchise. From one of the worst secondaries in football to the best in one season. Ronnie Lott, Eric Wright, Carlton Williamson were the 3 who started alongside Dwight Hicks. Draftee Lynn Thomas was a backup.

This season the 49er have a real chance to put a secondary on the field that could be their best in decades. The two safeties, Reid and Bethea, are both Pro Bowl quality and leaders. Tartt is a big safety who will de-cleat the opponent. At CB, Brock is an excellent cover man.

The redshirts, Kenneth Acker and Kevin Reaser are both studs. Add Dontae Johnson, Chris Cook, Cromartie, McFadden, Ward, Wright, etc. and we only have to find one stud among the whole bunch to find a quality starting secondary, with plenty of depth.

The defense will set the tone this season.

You very weel could be correct.

NOBODY saw it coming from Ronnie & Company.

I'm hoping for more of the same.

i feel that it's only a matter of time before Tartt takes over at the SAFETY position... to me, i like him a lot more on the FS.

not sure yet if he's got Ed Reid's range, but when I saw him play against TCU, he reminded most of Sean!!

Tartt's contribution this year will be ST.

I doubt he unseats bethea.