ILB, Chris Borland, Wisconsin

Originally posted by DaDivaRecieva15:

Derek Smith Jr.

We don't use that kind of language on webzone.

http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/32291-forum-rules-read-before-posting/

Okay, we've got some experts around here who think it's a wasted draft pick or even the worst of the bunch. We've also got Patrick Willis who compares Borland to a Pit Bull and thinks he's going to be good.

I don't know how he's going to turn out at this point, but if forced to predict, I'd have to go with Patrick's opinion as opposed to the experts around here.

Lol why is everyone so down on this guy after one pre-season game? Unreal

I don't get the hate for the guy. Are ya all racist? don't think white guys can play football? you racist mofos!

Originally posted by Dino:
Lol why is everyone so down on this guy after one pre-season game? Unreal

Short white guy, slow 40 time, must suck obviously.

Originally posted by outside4949:
I don't get the hate for the guy. Are ya all racist? don't think white guys can play football? you racist mofos!

We gad to diversify our LB core per league rules (affirmative action).

The guy can obviously play football, judging any rookie from just one preseason game is a joke.

Originally posted by crake49:

Okay, we've got some experts around here who think it's a wasted draft pick or even the worst of the bunch. We've also got Patrick Willis who compares Borland to a Pit Bull and thinks he's going to be good.

I don't know how he's going to turn out at this point, but if forced to predict, I'd have to go with Patrick's opinion as opposed to the experts around here.

I see him as jack Reynolds 2.0. I like the pick so far. I don't think pass protection is ever going to be his strong suit. I see him playing at the base defense a lot and on run downs and goal line situations. Against guys like Breesus and Aaron, he won't be playing much.

Borland tbh, reminds me of this dude

Originally posted by Giedi:

Originally posted by crake49:
Okay, we've got some experts around here who think it's a wasted draft pick or even the worst of the bunch. We've also got Patrick Willis who compares Borland to a Pit Bull and thinks he's going to be good.

I don't know how he's going to turn out at this point, but if forced to predict, I'd have to go with Patrick's opinion as opposed to the experts around here.

I see him as jack Reynolds 2.0. I like the pick so far. I don't think pass protection is ever going to be his strong suit. I see him playing at the base defense a lot and on run downs and goal line situations. Against guys like Breesus and Aaron, he won't be playing much.

Pass Protection? He's not a running back... That was Carlos Hyde!

Originally posted by verb1der:

Originally posted by bigwads:

Horrible pick when it was made...and an even worse pick now.

Please do tell more about how much better you are than our gm, and how much you can tell from a rookies first preseason game.

Originally posted by crake49:
Okay, we've got some experts around here who think it's a wasted draft pick or even the worst of the bunch. We've also got Patrick Willis who compares Borland to a Pit Bull and thinks he's going to be good.

I don't know how he's going to turn out at this point, but if forced to predict, I'd have to go with Patrick's opinion as opposed to the experts around here.

Cause Willis would be caught dead saying anything bad about his teammates.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by lamontb:
He looked lost and confused out. hopefully he can settle down but he doesn't look close to starting material

Not completely true. He made some good tackles out there. Even the announcers were complimenting him. Saying he will push at ILB.

IMO a lot of WZers did not like this pick because they don't know midwest college football. They don't watch it. So they automatically assumed it was bad. Now they have already set in stone notions about him and try to fit all evidence into that preconcieved set of notions.

He really did not play as bad as made out to be. He made some good tackles and played well on special teams. He got complimented by the TV analysts even. He was not the disaster made out to be here on the WZ. Was it perfect? No. We also had garbage D Linemen out there who are backup scrubs and they were getting owned all night with the exception of Dial. Plus it is his first preseason game of his rookie year. So I would expect him to be out of position or confused a few times. Which did happen. But............ was not on every single play like these WZers make it out to be......

He had some good. Some bad. Some nice tackles. Some confusion. Like I would expect for a rookie in their 1st game of the preseason. but in no way was it ALL bad like has been made out to be in this thread. Watch it again on rewind. There is some good in there too that people are ignoring. Because they want to IMO. It's their agenda with him.

OHhhhhhhhhhhh the irony

I think the preseason game showed how negatively his lack of length is going to hurt him in the NFL. There were more than a few instances where he was in the right place, but unable to make the play due to his lack of length and the speed of the NFL. Will he improve? Maybe, or maybe he is at his ceiling and is just not long enough to play in the NFL.

Has there ever been a defender with his measurables, say in the last 20 years, that's been successful? I don't mean "well this guy wasn't that much bigger" I mean at his height, weight, speed, length?

Will he make it, I don't know but I don't like the risk in the 3rd. This kinda seems like a pick where Baalke is gonna show someone his evaluation of Borland was right. I wish he'd have stuck to long players. They have been pretty successful for him to this point.

Originally posted by WINiner:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by lamontb:

He looked lost and confused out. hopefully he can settle down but he doesn't look close to starting material

Not completely true. He made some good tackles out there. Even the announcers were complimenting him. Saying he will push at ILB.

IMO a lot of WZers did not like this pick because they don't know midwest college football. They don't watch it. So they automatically assumed it was bad. Now they have already set in stone notions about him and try to fit all evidence into that preconcieved set of notions.

He really did not play as bad as made out to be. He made some good tackles and played well on special teams. He got complimented by the TV analysts even. He was not the disaster made out to be here on the WZ. Was it perfect? No. We also had garbage D Linemen out there who are backup scrubs and they were getting owned all night with the exception of Dial. Plus it is his first preseason game of his rookie year. So I would expect him to be out of position or confused a few times. Which did happen. But............ was not on every single play like these WZers make it out to be......

He had some good. Some bad. Some nice tackles. Some confusion. Like I would expect for a rookie in their 1st game of the preseason. but in no way was it ALL bad like has been made out to be in this thread. Watch it again on rewind. There is some good in there too that people are ignoring. Because they want to IMO. It's their agenda with him.

OHhhhhhhhhhhh the irony

I think the preseason game showed how negatively his lack of length is going to hurt him in the NFL. There were more than a few instances where he was in the right place, but unable to make the play due to his lack of length and the speed of the NFL. Will he improve? Maybe, or maybe he is at his ceiling and is just not long enough to play in the NFL.

Has there ever been a defender with his measurables, say in the last 20 years, that's been successful? I don't mean "well this guy wasn't that much bigger" I mean at his height, weight, speed, length?

Will he make it, I don't know but I don't like the risk in the 3rd. This kinda seems like a pick where Baalke is gonna show someone his evaluation of Borland was right. I wish he'd have stuck to long players. They have been pretty successful for him to this point.

I don't think Singletary was a very tall linebacker, and I hear he was an ok.

To be honest, I hated the pick when it was made. I feel he coulda been had in the 4th sometime. But at #77 3rd round I thought that was high for a run down only ILB. Dude is Derek Smith 2.0 potentially but who the f knows anymore?