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So Chris quit. OK well that is his right but still as of yet he has not issued any sort of statement to the 49er fans. This is despicable! Cmon Chris! Where are your manners? Aside from misleading the team the entirety of 2014 and after they have spent a 3rd rd pick on him, where can we point to him having left this job the right way and where has he tried to make peace with his fans? He owes us nothing but a bit of professional courtesy might be in order. A simple thank you 49ers Faithful I left this game for health concerns and I wish you guys the best. Smh
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It's obvious he doesn't need the money, doesn't love the game to the point he wants to keep playing. I definitely won't miss him at all like I'm missing Willis. I do have respect for both players stepping down rather than keep earning a check while playing on the field scared, but blames coaching instead. If they can't retreive some of the money then Learn from it. Make sure it's in the contract next time.
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Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by bigwads:
This is quite pathetic. No one has a problem with him walking away but how he did it us disgraceful.

Hey Chris, it's not all about you. A gm drafted you in the 3rd round foregoing drafting other guys or using that pick to trade up in other rounds. Coaches put a lot of collateral into you and Willis taught you how to play. That is a lot of effort wasted. Fans put a lot of faith in you.

Perhaps you should have had the courage to not declare for the draft and not be a selfish pos.

this. if this p***y didnt want to play football because it was dangerous, he should have stopped years ago. dude wasted the teams time, draft pick and money.

people quit jobs everyday

Not jobs where your starting pay is six figures and a job where you can retire after working 10 years. Personally I think he's a p***y, as a vet my job in the service was waaaaay more risky health wise than a concussion, could've died many times during deployment. Not to mention cops, firefighters etc.. that get paid beans compared to football players who plays a game for a living and a million dollar living at that. I don't know anybody who wouldn't love being in his shoes with that opportunity.

People quit 6 figure jobs all the time. Doctors who decide they don't want to be a doctor, lawyers who don't want to be in law, Wall Street guys who say f**k Wall Street ....

It happens.

P Willy just walked away from almost $10 million next year, guaranteed. Borland is walking away from 1/30th that.

Even Jordan quit the game once as well.

Not after one year. He'll realize that the potential of getting hurt or long term injury is just as risky by just driving to work everyday in a 9-5 job for paycheck to paycheck living money like most of us for 30-40 years to really retire. One year is not retirement. He don't deserve that label. He's a quitting p***y who quit on his teammates, fans and the 49ers when they needed him most

why is it so hard to understands that he rank his health, family >>>> $500k, fans, 49ers ?

he prefers to work 40+ years to retire and not risk his health vs lots of money and risking his health.

Over 50 % of NFL players overall have filed for bankruptcy or are in serious financial stress by the time they are 50 years old

And since when is there a 30% chance that we acquire dementia/alzheimers/depression from driving to work?

It's fine that he values his health/family more than work, so do I. It's the way he did it and the time he did it that is frustrating. That 50 percent bankruptcy crap is ALL on the players themselves and they have nobody to blame but themselves, most of them made more during their football careers then we will in our lifetime. I don't know what point you're trying to make there. As far as dimensia/alzheimers and depression, anybody can get that with age regardless of occupation. My point with the driving is there's risk with that too, especially if you do it for 40 years everyday as opposed to driving to work for a few months a year for 10 years if football is your job. Health concerns because of your occupation is something almost everyone with jobs deals with because most things in life have risks, so for me it's a weak ass excuse for quitting and again I'll say p***y

You aren't shedding new light that every decision in life has risks/benefits/alternatives. How we weigh them differently and how we are properly informed for consent is the Issue at hand. The risks of dementia/depression/Alzheimer's is exponentially higher for NFL players and that info is just recently available in the last year Bc of the settlement. Bc the NFL with held it. Had the NFL been upfront about it, Borland would have been informed about it prior to us drafting him and we might not be in this situation.

The majority of NFL players are broke Bc the NFL avg career is the minimu salary at 3.3 years , which is not a lot of money for a lifetime. The minimum salary for 40 years is good money, not 3 years. I brought it up Bc you keep mentioning how hard your life is driving to work and flexing your webzone muscles by calling someone on the Internet a p***y for not wanting the money you are more impressed by than Borland is.
Lets get over it fellas. Cmon, the game is bigger than him. Id rather see this thread go into the same dump that Borland threw his talents into.

f**k worrying about a guy who doesnt have the drive to even play football anymore
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How dare he place his health before my enjoyment of Sunday afternoon football!
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I will say this one friggin time, there were no big name ILBs available in free agency.

Curtis Lofton was released by NO and is downright average

AJ Hawk plain ole sucks, and isn't worth a dime

Kiko Alonso and Dannel Ellerbe were traded by their teams, 1 Ellerbe cost way too much, plus he was a huge bust of a signing for Miami, and 2. We would only get Alonso if we parted with Hyde, as Buffalo wanted a RB.

The rest of the ILBs are still unsigned, so please try something different, because he did;t screw us over, frankly he did us a favor by doing it now, and not during mini camp or after the draft.
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I will say this one friggin time, there were no big name ILBs available in free agency.

Curtis Lofton was released by NO and is downright average

AJ Hawk plain ole sucks, and isn't worth a dime

Kiko Alonso and Dannel Ellerbe were traded by their teams, 1 Ellerbe cost way too much, plus he was a huge bust of a signing for Miami, and 2. We would only get Alonso if we parted with Hyde, as Buffalo wanted a RB.

The rest of the ILBs are still unsigned, so please try something different, because he did;t screw us over, frankly he did us a favor by doing it now, and not during mini camp or after the draft.

what you aren't understanding is a lot of people feel, like me, that he should have never entered the draft in the first place since it appears his plan all along was to quit after 1 year.
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I will say this one friggin time, there were no big name ILBs available in free agency.

Curtis Lofton was released by NO and is downright average

AJ Hawk plain ole sucks, and isn't worth a dime

Kiko Alonso and Dannel Ellerbe were traded by their teams, 1 Ellerbe cost way too much, plus he was a huge bust of a signing for Miami, and 2. We would only get Alonso if we parted with Hyde, as Buffalo wanted a RB.

The rest of the ILBs are still unsigned, so please try something different, because he did;t screw us over, frankly he did us a favor by doing it now, and not during mini camp or after the draft.


drafting one in the 3rd or 4th makes a lot of sense, we get an ILB with an upside and avoid the pricey free agents, who would naturally take a big bite out of our salary cap, Wilhoite can more than hold his own until our rookie is ready to contribute....the cash we save on Borland's contract will obviously come in handy to sign Borland's replacement ...no need to panic huh AB, we are still in a good situation as far as talent at the LB position
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by bigwads:
This is quite pathetic. No one has a problem with him walking away but how he did it us disgraceful.

Hey Chris, it's not all about you. A gm drafted you in the 3rd round foregoing drafting other guys or using that pick to trade up in other rounds. Coaches put a lot of collateral into you and Willis taught you how to play. That is a lot of effort wasted. Fans put a lot of faith in you.

Perhaps you should have had the courage to not declare for the draft and not be a selfish pos.

this. if this p***y didnt want to play football because it was dangerous, he should have stopped years ago. dude wasted the teams time, draft pick and money.

people quit jobs everyday

Not jobs where your starting pay is six figures and a job where you can retire after working 10 years. Personally I think he's a p***y, as a vet my job in the service was waaaaay more risky health wise than a concussion, could've died many times during deployment. Not to mention cops, firefighters etc.. that get paid beans compared to football players who plays a game for a living and a million dollar living at that. I don't know anybody who wouldn't love being in his shoes with that opportunity.

People quit 6 figure jobs all the time. Doctors who decide they don't want to be a doctor, lawyers who don't want to be in law, Wall Street guys who say f**k Wall Street ....

It happens.

P Willy just walked away from almost $10 million next year, guaranteed. Borland is walking away from 1/30th that.

Even Jordan quit the game once as well.

Not after one year. He'll realize that the potential of getting hurt or long term injury is just as risky by just driving to work everyday in a 9-5 job for paycheck to paycheck living money like most of us for 30-40 years to really retire. One year is not retirement. He don't deserve that label. He's a quitting p***y who quit on his teammates, fans and the 49ers when they needed him most

why is it so hard to understands that he rank his health, family >>>> $500k, fans, 49ers ?

he prefers to work 40 years to retire and not risk his health vs lots of money and risking his health.

Over 50 % of NFL players overall have filed for bankruptcy or are in serious financial stress by the time they are 50 years old

And since when is there a 30% chance that we acquire dementia/alzheimers/depression from driving to work?

It's fine that he values his health/family more than work, so do I. It's the way he did it and the time he did it that is frustrating. That 50 percent bankruptcy crap is ALL on the players themselves and they have nobody to blame but themselves, most of them made more during their football careers then we will in our lifetime. I don't know what point you're trying to make there. As far as dimensia/alzheimers and depression, anybody can get that with age regardless of occupation. My point with the driving is there's risk with that too, especially if you do it for 40 years everyday as opposed to driving to work for a few months a year for 10 years if football is your job. Health concerns because of your occupation is something almost everyone with jobs deals with because most things in life have risks, so for me it's a weak ass excuse for quitting and again I'll say p***y

You aren't shedding new light that every decision in life has risks/benefits/alternatives. How we weigh them differently and how we are properly informed for consent is the Issue at hand. The risks of dementia/depression/Alzheimer's is exponentially higher for NFL players and that info is just recently available in the last year Bc of the settlement. Bc the NFL with held it. Had the NFL been upfront about it, Borland would have been informed about it prior to us drafting him and we might not be in this situation.

The majority of NFL players are broke Bc the NFL avg career is the minimu salary at 3.3 years , which is not a lot of money for a lifetime. The minimum salary for 40 years is good money, not 3 years. I brought it up Bc you keep mentioning how hard your life is driving to work and flexing your webzone muscles by calling someone on the Internet a p***y for not wanting the money you are more impressed by than Borland is.
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by 49ers808:
Originally posted by blizzuntz:
Originally posted by hondakillerzx:
Originally posted by bigwads:
This is quite pathetic. No one has a problem with him walking away but how he did it us disgraceful.

Hey Chris, it's not all about you. A gm drafted you in the 3rd round foregoing drafting other guys or using that pick to trade up in other rounds. Coaches put a lot of collateral into you and Willis taught you how to play. That is a lot of effort wasted. Fans put a lot of faith in you.

Perhaps you should have had the courage to not declare for the draft and not be a selfish pos.

this. if this p***y didnt want to play football because it was dangerous, he should have stopped years ago. dude wasted the teams time, draft pick and money.

people quit jobs everyday

Not jobs where your starting pay is six figures and a job where you can retire after working 10 years. Personally I think he's a p***y, as a vet my job in the service was waaaaay more risky health wise than a concussion, could've died many times during deployment. Not to mention cops, firefighters etc.. that get paid beans compared to football players who plays a game for a living and a million dollar living at that. I don't know anybody who wouldn't love being in his shoes with that opportunity.

People quit 6 figure jobs all the time. Doctors who decide they don't want to be a doctor, lawyers who don't want to be in law, Wall Street guys who say f**k Wall Street ....

It happens.

P Willy just walked away from almost $10 million next year, guaranteed. Borland is walking away from 1/30th that.

Even Jordan quit the game once as well.

Not after one year. He'll realize that the potential of getting hurt or long term injury is just as risky by just driving to work everyday in a 9-5 job for paycheck to paycheck living money like most of us for 30-40 years to really retire. One year is not retirement. He don't deserve that label. He's a quitting p***y who quit on his teammates, fans and the 49ers when they needed him most

why is it so hard to understands that he rank his health, family >>>> $500k, fans, 49ers ?

he prefers to work 40+ years to retire and not risk his health vs lots of money and risking his health.

Over 50 % of NFL players overall have filed for bankruptcy or are in serious financial stress by the time they are 50 years old

And since when is there a 30% chance that we acquire dementia/alzheimers/depression from driving to work?

It's fine that he values his health/family more than work, so do I. It's the way he did it and the time he did it that is frustrating. That 50 percent bankruptcy crap is ALL on the players themselves and they have nobody to blame but themselves, most of them made more during their football careers then we will in our lifetime. I don't know what point you're trying to make there. As far as dimensia/alzheimers and depression, anybody can get that with age regardless of occupation. My point with the driving is there's risk with that too, especially if you do it for 40 years everyday as opposed to driving to work for a few months a year for 10 years if football is your job. Health concerns because of your occupation is something almost everyone with jobs deals with because most things in life have risks, so for me it's a weak ass excuse for quitting and again I'll say p***y

You aren't shedding new light that every decision in life has risks/benefits/alternatives. How we weigh them differently and how we are properly informed for consent is the Issue at hand. The risks of dementia/depression/Alzheimer's is exponentially higher for NFL players and that info is just recently available in the last year Bc of the settlement. Bc the NFL with held it. Had the NFL been upfront about it, Borland would have been informed about it prior to us drafting him and we might not be in this situation.

The majority of NFL players are broke Bc the NFL avg career is the minimu salary at 3.3 years , which is not a lot of money for a lifetime. The minimum salary for 40 years is good money, not 3 years. I brought it up Bc you keep mentioning how hard your life is driving to work and flexing your webzone muscles by calling someone on the Internet a p***y for not wanting the money you are more impressed by than Borland is.

Don't put words in my mouth man, I never said my life was hard driving to work, I used driving to work as an example for a health/injury risk. I ain't flexing no muscle, got nothing to prove to nobody, especially on the net, I'm just as entitled to my opinion of him and this move as you or anyone else is, I think he's a puss, you don't so what. And how is 40 years minimum salary good money? 40,000/40 years equals 1.6 mil. 500,000/3 years equals 1.5 mil. Really dude? Blaming the NFL for not informing him of risk involved in playing football is incredibly ignorant. It doesn't take a rocket scientists to figure that out. If you really believe players only know about concussions recently because of the lawsuit than I don't know what to tell you. Anyways this ain't gonna go anywhere, Borland ain't a Niner anymore so like this conversation I'm over it
Originally posted by ptw1:
Originally posted by AB81Rules:
I will say this one friggin time, there were no big name ILBs available in free agency.

Curtis Lofton was released by NO and is downright average

AJ Hawk plain ole sucks, and isn't worth a dime

Kiko Alonso and Dannel Ellerbe were traded by their teams, 1 Ellerbe cost way too much, plus he was a huge bust of a signing for Miami, and 2. We would only get Alonso if we parted with Hyde, as Buffalo wanted a RB.

The rest of the ILBs are still unsigned, so please try something different, because he did;t screw us over, frankly he did us a favor by doing it now, and not during mini camp or after the draft.

what you aren't understanding is a lot of people feel, like me, that he should have never entered the draft in the first place since it appears his plan all along was to quit after 1 year.

I totally get that, but some people are saying he is a p***y, or he quit on us, which I don't agree with that. He shouldn't of entered the draft in 2014, but oh well, it's over and done with, instead of b***hing about him leaving, just respect his decision that he thought was best for his overall health, and future. After all, there is more to life than playing football, I mea the average a player lasts is like 3-4 years, and if he does last 15 yrs, he is into his late 30's-40's, and then what? You're beat up as hell, it's been shown that Concussions are a serious threat to your memory, and getting brain damage, I know my kids will never play football if I have kids of course. Too dangerous. I mean you're 40 yrs old, having memory loss, and massive head aches, not a pretty life IMO. Sure you might have made millions, but money doesn't buy happiness, look at Robin Williams. He made millions and millions over his life, and he committed suicide, sad thing, but it shows you that money doesn't buy happiness. I rather have my health, than have a bunch of money.
Originally posted by NeeJ49er:
drafting one in the 3rd or 4th makes a lot of sense, we get an ILB with an upside and avoid the pricey free agents, who would naturally take a big bite out of our salary cap, Wilhoite can more than hold his own until our rookie is ready to contribute....the cash we save on Borland's contract will obviously come in handy to sign Borland's replacement ...no need to panic huh AB, we are still in a good situation as far as talent at the LB position

I'm not really worried, I like Wilhoite a lot. But I like a bunch of college kids in this yrs drart, Stephone Anthony, Bernardrick McKinney, Paul Dawson, Denzel Perryman just to name a few.
Originally posted by JR8049:
And York has every right and should retrieve three-quarters of signing bonus for 1. Not doing so set a real bad precedent 2. Cap space is cap space 3. Worry about negative impact organisation image - well not a problem retrieve it and donate more than that to CTE research fund or the like of it

But you do remember that Glen Coffee's bonus money was never gone after right? And he retired for faith, where Borland did for Health reasons, what does that show if they go after it? That they only care about Money. It would be horrible PR for them, a downright nightmare for the 49ers, which they don't need right now.
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Originally posted by AB81Rules:
Originally posted by JR8049:
And York has every right and should retrieve three-quarters of signing bonus for 1. Not doing so set a real bad precedent 2. Cap space is cap space 3. Worry about negative impact organisation image - well not a problem retrieve it and donate more than that to CTE research fund or the like of it

But you do remember that Glen Coffee's bonus money was never gone after right? And he retired for faith, where Borland did for Health reasons, what does that show if they go after it? That they only care about Money. It would be horrible PR for them, a downright nightmare for the 49ers, which they don't need right now.
they should have went after coffee in my opinion. they should do what is right, damn the bad publicity it will bring because we will get that anyway remember there are lots of people who want us to go 4-12 and want us to fail so who gives a s**t about bad publicity anymore? we will get that no matter what we do... so they should go after borlands bonus because, in my opinion, its the right thing to do.. also chicken s**t he never did a presser. willis did,,,, hell even dips**t erikson had the guts to go to the media tent the day he got fired and answered every question thrown at him which i really respected.... the borland thing and how he did it reminds me of when mooch got fired,, never had the guts to stand up to anyone and hid in a dark van as it drove out of niner headquarters. f**k him and now i am more than ever committed to having a good season cuz i am not letting some little non loyal man from wisconsin f**k up our team.
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