2013 - NFC Championship Round: Thoughts after watching the game... | Page 17

Marvin49 · 2014-01-20T17:47:14-08:00

Just got back from Los Angeles and have had a 6 hour drive to think about the game. Haven't rewatched yet (may wait at least a few weeks). 1) Kap: OK...let me start by saying anyone who wants to replace Kap as the QB needs to stop sniffing glue. I haven't even read anything on this site yet but I KNOW you guys have probably already been out in force. First off, Kap was the only person who did ANYTHING in the game on offense. The plays he made with his legs and arm were the only reason they were in the game at the end. Then Seahawks completely eliminated the run game. Gore could do nothing. Boldin dropped two passes. Lets also not forget that the Seahawks are the best pass D in the NFL for a REASON. Did Colin play perfectly? Of course not. Still a young player in the most hostile environment in the NFL and still was one throw away from winning his FOURTH consecutive road game and FOURTH road playoff game. I'd like to highlight that last part in particular. No team has EVER won 4 straight games on the road. Ever. No team has won back to back Conference Championship games on the road. Anyone ready to throw the towel in on Kap need to remove their cranium from their rectum. Kap is going to be here for a long time so you had better get used to it. Some of my favorite quotes I've seen on PFT say stuff like "Great Athlete but Niners will never win a Championship with Kaepernick". That comment makes me laugh. It shows very little understanding of 49er history. I remember another player who was tagged with the exact same line...athletic, great runner, best RB on the team, too undisciplined, they will never win a Championship with him. His name was Steve Young. 2) Richard Sherman: Undoubtedly the biggest pr*ck in the NFL. I've been on a few sites that are actually defending him, saying Crabtree tried to "start a fight" with him, etc, etc. Ya know what? That dude isn't just an a$$hat, he's also a boldfaced liar. I don't believe a single word that comes after his mouth. I remember his "account" of how he congratulated Harbaugh after the week 2 game and how the video showed that he comp[lately made up what happened. He never game Harbaugh the chance to respond before he ran away. It pretty much puts a slant on every single thing I hear from him. Crab said earlier in the week that he didn't think Sherman was the best and that he didn't pay attention to particular players...just teams. THAT was what Dick Sherman responded to. Seriously? THAT comment is the reason you make yourself look like a moron on National TV? The sad part is that the guy is good. REALLY good. He's smart. He's dedicated to his craft. If he would shut his mouth he'd actually get the respect he claims he never gets. I might actually have rooted for the Seahawks 2 sundays from now but I can't bring myself to root for that piece of trash. What absolutely BLOWS ME AWAY is how all I read from Seahawks fans is how big a douche Harbaugh and Kaepernick are. They b***h and complain about how those two don't respect them. They see NO ISSUE with Shermans antics. Unbelievable hypocritical. Go Broncos. 3) Bowman: Ultimate adding injury to insult. I'm bothered by the game, but I'm crushed because of that injury. I hope he can make it back, but I don't want them to rush him. I want him back as close to 100% as possible. The fact that he hung onto the ball...OMG. That's just nuts. The fact that the refs missed it...no comment. 4) Aldon: Dude is a straight pass rushing monster. Really only participated greatly in 12 games this season (missed 5 and was limted in 2 more) and still amassed 12 sacks. Even when double and triple teamed, he can't be contained forever. 5) Seattle fans: As disgusted as I am at Sherman and by the fan who threw popcorn at Bowman as he exited the field, I honestly don't think that behavior is indicative of most of that fanbase. I was on Seahawks.net last night and I was seeing a level of respect for the 49ers that I hadn't seen before and peeps upset about the popcorn incident and wishing the best for Bowman and Iupati. Just want to keep it in perspective. One idiot fan does not an entire fanbase make. If we hold them all responsible for that then we are all no better than Niner fans who stab opposing fans the Candlestick parking lot. Just sayin'. 6) Crab/Boldin/WRs: Really looking forward to getting him next year with a full offseason to recover. He has played far better than I ever could have expected, but there is no way he was 100% this year. Really hoping they can resign Boldin for a reasonable price. I think that his issue last year with Baltimore and not wanting to take a pay cut had more to do with wanting Baltimore to honor their contract than wanting the payday. We'll see because thing are going to get tight. I would expect the Niners to draft another WR and see Crab/Boldin/Patton/Draft Pick as the teams WRs next year. 7) Secondary: My guess is that both Donte Whitner, Terrell Brown, and Carlos Rogers have put on the red and gold for the last time. Rogers doesn't concern me. Cully is back. Brock will start....but they will have to select a CB fairly high and probably sign a few cheap free agents to compete. I was never a fan of Whitner...until this year. Replacing him is my biggest concern on D. I just don't see how they sign him AND keep everyone else. The good news is that Baalke has shown an ability to go find guys who were highly ranked coming out of college and have been a "bust" with the teams that selected them and then allowing them to succeed with this coaching staff (See Whitner, Donte: Rogers, Carlos: Dorsey, Glenn). He'll need to do it again in a few positions on the team. 8) Contracts: Now stuff starts to get expensive. My guess is Kap and Aldon get redone in the offseason and Crab and Iupati play out their contracts. Given the choiceof the two, I'd say resign Crab...but I'm not sure it will be possible. 9) Championship Window: This all leads me to my biggest concern. The Niners are in danger of having their Championship window expire. Gore is not getting any younger. Neither is Justin Smith. I can't wait to see Lattimore or Carradine, but we won't know till those guys can play. The 49ers of the past were able to restock their rosters and keep that window open for an incredibly long time. We'll just have to see if Baalke can do the same now that those rookie deals are expiring. Having 6 picks in the first 3 rounds helps. Having a new stadium and a team that has been in the NFC Championship 3 years running helps attract free agents. This should be an interesting offseason. 10) Refs: The refs were bad. Niners got hosed on a few calls. Ya know what tho? I spent weeks being pissed off after the Super Bowl. I don't want to do it again. Some of the missed calls didn't make a difference anyway. Some might have made a difference, but the reality is that we'll never know and getting pissed about it won't change it. Nobody is going to remember that a drive should have been extended by a roughing the kicker call. Nobody cares and will only site some call that went against them 2 years earlier. No point to it. OK, when's the draft? Looking forward to watching a bit of a retool this offseason.

Jan 23, 2014 at 12:58 PM

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jk41183
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SO PAINFUL! Had our chances and just didn't make it happen in a few key spots. Can't turn it over 3 times in the 4th and expect to win.

The thing I am starting to worry about is how resilient can we continue to be? 3 straight years of absolute GUT WRENCHING losses. Yes, this team is young, yes this team is talented, but mentally, can we continue to grind after what I think was the crushing of all the defeats from the last 3 seasons.....mainly b/c we didn't only lose, we lost Bowman, Iupati, Gore broke his hand ect ect....oh and we lost to our bitter rivals.

Jan 23, 2014 at 1:03 PM

#242

VinculumJuris
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Originally posted by jk41183:
SO PAINFUL! Had our chances and just didn't make it happen in a few key spots. Can't turn it over 3 times in the 4th and expect to win.

The thing I am starting to worry about is how resilient can we continue to be? 3 straight years of absolute GUT WRENCHING losses. Yes, this team is young, yes this team is talented, but mentally, can we continue to grind after what I think was the crushing of all the defeats from the last 3 seasons.....mainly b/c we didn't only lose, we lost Bowman, Iupati, Gore broke his hand ect ect....oh and we lost to our bitter rivals.

I think this comes down to coaching. I'm a little skeptical about the staff's ability to get the most out of its players, but I have no doubt about its ability to motivate. Those guys bleed red and gold, and there's not a bad apple in the bunch from what I can tell.

Jan 23, 2014 at 1:06 PM

#243

SFrush
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Originally posted by stimpy:
Be real people. If Manning is going to work over their defensive backfield, he would have had a field day with ours.

most likely.

Jan 23, 2014 at 1:12 PM

#244

jk41183
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Originally posted by VinculumJuris:
I think this comes down to coaching. I'm a little skeptical about the staff's ability to get the most out of its players, but I have no doubt about its ability to motivate. Those guys bleed red and gold, and there's not a bad apple in the bunch from what I can tell.

Coaching is key for sure, and Harbaugh does seem to have them focused really all the time. I just hope this loss adds fuel to the fire and didn't totally deflate the teams psyche....b/c seattle isn't going anywhere, AZ is nipping at our tails and St. Louis has yet another top draft pick. Can't waist anymore of these opportunities.

Jan 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM

#245

Young2Rice
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Originally posted by kidash98:
"2013 - NFC Championship Round: Thoughts after watching the game..."

Sadness......

- 98

This.

So close.

So Sad.

I don't know if its the mods doing, but i'm glad the SEA fans aren't around. Whenever i see them here trying to justify their team's b******t i get pissed off again.

[ Edited by Young2Rice on Jan 23, 2014 at 1:19 PM ]

Jan 23, 2014 at 2:22 PM

#246

OnTheClock
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Originally posted by sacniner:
We live and die with Kap. And both happened yesterday. He made some great plays and was better than Wilson. Also made some costly mistakes. Lets pray that he can improve the mental aspect of the game and improve from the pocket. If that happens, he will be the best QB in the NFL.

That's the problem. Our offense depends on him heavily. If he can't pass with 9 in the box, there's no reason for a defense to back off. CK's development is the biggest key to our team's sustained success going forward. If he corrects his current flaws, then the team will obviously be less hampered when we face obstacles in games such as total incapability of running the ball. A more creative passing game can emerge when a signal-caller displays the capability to execute the more complex sets of plays.

Continuing to establish a ferocious OL is a nice next step as well.

Jan 23, 2014 at 2:24 PM

#247

susweel
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2011-2013 niners gonna be on the Amercia's Game missing rings.

Jan 23, 2014 at 2:27 PM

#248

lamontb
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Originally posted by 76Razor:

Originally posted by kujon11:

Originally posted by VABeach49er:
I blame Carlos Rodgers for giving up the touchdown on 4th and 7

your argument would have more merit if you pointed out aldon smith jumped offsides and just completely stopped his pass rush

everyone completely stopped their pass rush on that d-line. also, they (plenty of people smarter than me and on sports radio) said that whitner was out of position and should have been there to help on that play. BUT, they all say it was a PERFECT pass. meh...if you wanna be mad about a play, be mad that they gave 15 yards on 3rd and 22 to miller. play each down the the fullest OR ELSE!

Exactly. Seattle would have punted if they played with intensity on that play. It's like the defense just gave up after the intentional grounding call. It's like they thought they won the battle but they didn't finish.

Jan 23, 2014 at 2:40 PM

#249

Jakemall
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:

Originally posted by sacniner:
We live and die with Kap. And both happened yesterday. He made some great plays and was better than Wilson. Also made some costly mistakes. Lets pray that he can improve the mental aspect of the game and improve from the pocket. If that happens, he will be the best QB in the NFL.

That's the problem. Our offense depends on him heavily. If he can't pass with 9 in the box, there's no reason for a defense to back off. CK's development is the biggest key to our team's sustained success going forward. If he corrects his current flaws, then the team will obviously be less hampered when we face obstacles in games such as total incapability of running the ball. A more creative passing game can emerge when a signal-caller displays the capability to execute the more complex sets of plays.

Continuing to establish a ferocious OL is a nice next step as well.

Can't argue with truth.

Jan 23, 2014 at 2:45 PM

#250

pd24
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The 4th and 7 TD was so close to being a tip play with a chance at an int. Reid was trailing and might have picked it. So close.

Jan 23, 2014 at 2:52 PM

#251

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Originally posted by JimA49ers:
Originally posted by FunkNinerFlex:
Originally posted by LoneWolf:
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
I dunno, watching 49ers football all these years, this game was like a creepy flashback to the '83 Championship game where the refs jobbed us, and the Skins limped into a Superbowl slaughter.

Personally i think thats whats going to happen here, other then Seattle isnt exactly limping, but I dont think they really understand what Manning and that offense can do to them. Sherman is used to covering receivers smaller then. I dont think hes going to look like the greatest db against a receiver his size, faster, and more physical then him.

Do you think our defense, if we made it past Seattle with a healthy Bowman, could have stopped Manning? I think we could have slowed him down enough and we could have won. Now I think Seattle with their speed on the Dline and LOB is equal to, if not better, than our D. (My friend said before the game he heard Eric Davis say Seattle has the better D). As much as I hate Seattle, their D can contain Manning. It's up to their Russel and Lynch to help them.
Sherman, no matter how much we may hate him, is way better than Brock or Brown, and it's not even close.
Manning reads defenses better. However, I feel the Niners would have a better shot in the Super Bowl than the cawks because no homefield advantage.

Our defense with a healthy Bowman would have the advantage against manning because we have been able to make teams more one dimenaional then seattle has, how they continued to stop our run game is on the oline and when they did open a giant lane gore and kap werent on the same page. Both thomases will be extremely hard for seattles secondary to deal with and then they have welker going over the middle which will open up there defense even more because seattles lbs are not even close to ours.

Jan 23, 2014 at 3:07 PM

#252

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Originally posted by pd24:
The 4th and 7 TD was so close to being a tip play with a chance at an int. Reid was trailing and might have picked it. So close.

Then it would have been 4th and 2 Seattle.

Jan 23, 2014 at 3:08 PM

#253

pd24
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Originally posted by real9erfan:

Originally posted by pd24:
The 4th and 7 TD was so close to being a tip play with a chance at an int. Reid was trailing and might have picked it. So close.

Then it would have been 4th and 2 Seattle.

Ohh ya.. Forgot about that.

Jan 23, 2014 at 3:10 PM

#254

VinculumJuris
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Originally posted by real9erfan:
Originally posted by pd24:
The 4th and 7 TD was so close to being a tip play with a chance at an int. Reid was trailing and might have picked it. So close.

Then it would have been 4th and 2 Seattle.

Haha true true. I wonder if they would have taken the field goal instead of going for 4th and 2 in that situation...

Jan 23, 2014 at 3:11 PM

#255

verb1der
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Originally posted by pd24:

Originally posted by real9erfan:

Originally posted by pd24:
The 4th and 7 TD was so close to being a tip play with a chance at an int. Reid was trailing and might have picked it. So close.

Then it would have been 4th and 2 Seattle.

Ohh ya.. Forgot about that.

Who the hell jumped on the hard count anyway? Of all downs..