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Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:
There isn't an offense on the NFL that makes life easier on defensive coordinators than the 49ers do. Stopping the run comes down to the execution of the players on the field, some teams have the personnel to do so, others don't, even when stacking the box with 8 guys. But in terms of the passing game, there isn't a more predictable offense, one that minimizes the amount of ground that a defense has to cover and makes it possible for defenses to dial up a variety of exotic blitzes without worry of the offense making them pay for it.
Originally posted by TheRatMan13:Originally posted by Phoenix49ers:There isn't an offense on the NFL that makes life easier on defensive coordinators than the 49ers do. Stopping the run comes down to the execution of the players on the field, some teams have the personnel to do so, others don't, even when stacking the box with 8 guys. But in terms of the passing game, there isn't a more predictable offense, one that minimizes the amount of ground that a defense has to cover and makes it possible for defenses to dial up a variety of exotic blitzes without worry of the offense making them pay for it.
Has there ever been a more talented offense that has done less than this one in the passing game?
Originally posted by Wisconsin49erfan:
I admit that the passing game has had some significant struggles when Vernon Davis has not played. Let's keep some perspective, however:
- We are tied for 10th in points scored per game with the Colts and the Eagles.
- We are 22nd in yards per game, right below Carolina and Dallas.
We are not 32nd in all categories. Our offense is not laughable.
Originally posted by NeonNiner:
When we're not playing above average to elite defenses, maybe.
Originally posted by Wisconsin49erfan:Originally posted by NeonNiner:When we're not playing above average to elite defenses, maybe.
Well, lets flip this around. Carolina's offense looked laughable against our defense. Play the game 10 times, and I still think we win more than we lose.
Originally posted by SDDAVE:Yes I very much agree,Romlan(Roman+ Nolan) have no clue and Harbaugh seems to thank that he is still in Chicago with the Late Walter Payton,I sure Hope this is Not Singletary 2.0 again? and the WR coach needs to go along with Romlan,this wholeOffense short-comings points Directly to the Coaches.How in the hell do you not GET production from your WRs and you are the WR coach? look at Brady and how he is getting way better production from ROOKIES,this stinks bad on the coaches ,hey JED its time to Intervene ,I know your dear Uncle Eddie would have by now, What as fans can we do to get somebodys attention...this has GOT to STOP,TODAY.
I would bet that most DC's spend about a day on planning how to defend us if they are honest and see what we see. They see a team that does
not stretch the field vertically or horizontally. With no WR speed to account for excepting Vernon who can be doubled, the length of the field is greatly shortened. With no safety valve or outlet passes for the QB to go to, no screens, flare passes, slants, and speedy, elusive running backs being called to run up the gut most of the time, the defense does not have to cover the field horizontally. The outside LB's have nothing to do. Talk about creating a small box for the defense to have to cover! As a consequence, the OL is assaulted by seven or eight pass rushers, creating incredible mismatches and quick, severe pressure on CK. With his outside running lanes contained, he has nowhere to go with the ball and looks horrible. We are not even close to looking like a WCO. It's serial fraud to state that we are. It's as believable as Obama telling us we can keep our policies if we like them. LOL
Bill Walsh's whole plan was to make the defense cover the entire field and I mean all of it. Let's take 1989 as an example when the Niners went to the Super Bowl. Yes we had Jerry Rice and John Taylor at WR and use them to illustrate I am not taking the easy way out. And we had a superb TE in Brent Jones. But what made the offense was the way we got the ball to the RB's to make plays and force the defense to cover the entire field. With Tom Rathman and Roger Craig together in the same backfield, they accounted for 122 pass receptions for 1,089 yards and 1,359 yards rushing. So the defense literally had to cover the whole field. Often times the LB's were confused in coverage creating big plays. The pressure put on the defense probably made the OL look better than they were, since a majority of the defenders were assigned coverage responsibilities. The scheme was magnificent.
Which brings me to the negative news that today we have 4 potential receivers in our offense who are being completely wasted. Their names are Gore, Hunter, James and Dixon, guys who know how to really run in space. Between them they have 13 catches for 133 yards which extrapolates to a season totals of 24 catches for 240 yards. Compare to Craig and Rathman above. And that is how you move the chains. So there are only two reasons why this is happening - Roman is really out of his element as an OC, or more frightening is the hearsay that CK is not really comfortable throwing the short passes required in the WCO. If this is the case we are in deep doo-doo, with no hope in sight. The Chiefs to not look like the toast of the NFL offensively, but they are running the WCO the way it is supposed to be run - moving the chains, eating up clock, resting the defense.
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Originally posted by pwillis52beasty:
What if this has been Roman and Harbaugh's super secret plan all along? What if they have purposely only called rudimentary passing plays so that teams have no film on our real passing game? And they are planning to pull out the greatest passing offense ever seen just in time for the playoff run? Teams will not know what hit them. They will have no way to prepare for this super secret powerful juggernaut passing offense were hiding up our sleeve. f**king brilliant. They don't call Greg Roman the Fat mad scientist for nothing..
We good guys, we good.
Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Carolina's defense knew our plays. I saw them yelling out the calls as soon as we lined up, and then they promptly stuffed the play. What we lack in the most simplest of terms is this:
- DIVERSITY. Our playbook has already reportedly been downsized. The variety in our playcalling is atrocious. How long are we going to have to complain that we haven't seen an assortment of certain types of plays for weeks/almost all year (cough.. screens)?
- DISGUISE. What you see is what you get. If Roman was creative, he'd run that roll-out to Miller as a FAKE with another option designed to get open deep or some other open space where the defense ISN'T expecting it.