2013 - Week 5: Thoughts after rewatching the game...

Originally posted by Marvin49:

? Defending my opinion is "snippy"? Thicker skins fellas...thicker skins. lol.

Dont let em get to you marv, your reports kick ass, I look foward to them after each game.

Originally posted by LoneWolf:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
? Defending my opinion is "snippy"? Thicker skins fellas...thicker skins. lol.

Dont let em get to you marv, your reports kick ass, I look foward to them after each game.

Just one more take on this game as I was re-watching it.

The 49ers came out on the first offensive drive and correctly guessed what the HOU secondary was going to do - press man coverage, 1 deep safety. The pass plays being called on that first offensive drive were all geared towards beating this type of coverage. The two strategies I saw were: throwing the ball up for grabs to allow the WR to make a play over the CB that is riding his hip pocket, and shallow crossing routes designed to make defenders run into each other (out of bunch formations).

Point is, Roman is aware of how defenses are playing them and is properly calling routes that counter that strategy. Interestingly, in the next 49er drives, HOU backed their CBs up to give the 49er WRs some cushion, thereby eliminating the effectiveness of rub routes. It also eliminates the ability for 1 on 1 jump balls as the CB is now facing the QB after the ball is snapped. I saw two of these 'jump ball' type throws to Baldin and one to Boldin throughout the first half.

Kap needs to have the freedom to audible to a quick slant once he sees any type of cushion being given to Baldwin and his big body.

Originally posted by thl408:
Just one more take on this game as I was re-watching it.

The 49ers came out on the first offensive drive and correctly guessed what the HOU secondary was going to do - press man coverage, 1 deep safety. The pass plays being called on that first offensive drive were all geared towards beating this type of coverage. The two strategies I saw were: throwing the ball up for grabs to allow the WR to make a play over the CB that is riding his hip pocket, and shallow crossing routes designed to make defenders run into each other (out of bunch formations).

Point is, Roman is aware of how defenses are playing them and is properly calling routes that counter that strategy. Interestingly, in the next 49er drives, HOU backed their CBs up to give the 49er WRs some cushion, thereby eliminating the effectiveness of rub routes. It also eliminates the ability for 1 on 1 jump balls as the CB is now facing the QB after the ball is snapped. I saw two of these 'jump ball' type throws to Baldin and one to Boldin throughout the first half.

Kap needs to have the freedom to audible to a quick slant once he sees any type of cushion being given to Baldwin and his big body.

Very VERY nice observation...really appreciate what you are bringing here via video analysis and obserations. These are critical to how we view our OC, game plans, the WR's and QB. Thank you!

Originally posted by thl408:
Just one more take on this game as I was re-watching it.

The 49ers came out on the first offensive drive and correctly guessed what the HOU secondary was going to do - press man coverage, 1 deep safety. The pass plays being called on that first offensive drive were all geared towards beating this type of coverage. The two strategies I saw were: throwing the ball up for grabs to allow the WR to make a play over the CB that is riding his hip pocket, and shallow crossing routes designed to make defenders run into each other (out of bunch formations).

Point is, Roman is aware of how defenses are playing them and is properly calling routes that counter that strategy. Interestingly, in the next 49er drives, HOU backed their CBs up to give the 49er WRs some cushion, thereby eliminating the effectiveness of rub routes. It also eliminates the ability for 1 on 1 jump balls as the CB is now facing the QB after the ball is snapped. I saw two of these 'jump ball' type throws to Baldin and one to Boldin throughout the first half.

Kap needs to have the freedom to audible to a quick slant once he sees any type of cushion being given to Baldwin and his big body.

Nice observation!

I'm excited for Baldwin. His size is an immediate upgrade over KW at the #2 spot simply because he's big enough to beat the coverage. I predict as the season progresses, he's going to be a huge impact and possibly the best signing of the season!

Originally posted by verb1der:
Nice observation!

I'm excited for Baldwin. His size is an immediate upgrade over KW at the #2 spot simply because he's big enough to beat the coverage. I predict as the season progresses, he's going to be a huge impact and possibly the best signing of the season!

Fingers crossed! Just have to get him involved early and often!

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by LoneWolf:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
? Defending my opinion is "snippy"? Thicker skins fellas...thicker skins. lol.

Dont let em get to you marv, your reports kick ass, I look foward to them after each game.

If I learned one thing in life, it's that 84.3% of people in the world are way too sensitive, get butthurt for no reason and take s**t way too personal.

Looking forward to week 6 my man.

Originally posted by NCommand:

Originally posted by verb1der:
Nice observation!

I'm excited for Baldwin. His size is an immediate upgrade over KW at the #2 spot simply because he's big enough to beat the coverage. I predict as the season progresses, he's going to be a huge impact and possibly the best signing of the season!

Fingers crossed! Just have to get him involved early and often!

There were reports prior to the HOU game about how Kap and Baldwin were working on throws together and it's apparent the throws have to do with Baldwin going up for jump balls. The execution was not there, but the strategy is sound, so it's a bit encouraging.

Originally posted by verb1der:
Nice observation!

I'm excited for Baldwin. His size is an immediate upgrade over KW at the #2 spot simply because he's big enough to beat the coverage. I predict as the season progresses, he's going to be a huge impact and possibly the best signing of the season!

I sure hope you're right because someone has to step up from that position and he's really the only guy with a chance until we get healthy. Having said that I just have no confidence in Baldwin. I have even less confidence in Williams.

Curious but what have you seen from Baldwin aside from potential that leads you to believe that he's going to do anything different than he has his entire career so far. I desperately want to believe as you do!

Originally posted by NinerG94:

Originally posted by verb1der:
Nice observation!

I'm excited for Baldwin. His size is an immediate upgrade over KW at the #2 spot simply because he's big enough to beat the coverage. I predict as the season progresses, he's going to be a huge impact and possibly the best signing of the season!

I sure hope you're right because someone has to step up from that position and he's really the only guy with a chance until we get healthy. Having said that I just have no confidence in Baldwin. I have even less confidence in Williams.

Curious but what have you seen from Baldwin aside from potential that leads you believe going to to anything different than he has his entire career so far. I desperately want to believe as you do!

I'm highly optimistic about Baldwin for the following reasons..

-now plays in a better system
-has a QB that can get him the ball
-doesn't carry the burden of living up to his draft status as he did KC
-has Boldin as his mentor

If he can be a solid possession WR this year, it will be huge! And I don't think that's asking too much.

Originally posted by verb1der:
I'm highly optimistic about Baldwin for the following reasons..

-now plays in a better system
-has a QB that can get him the ball
-doesn't carry the burden of living up to his draft status as he did KC
-has Boldin as his mentor

If he can be a solid possession WR this year, it will be huge! And I don't think that's asking too much.

Boldin factor has to help. Its just has to! While I won't say I'm a believer just yet, I can say I'm at the very least a bit more optimistic now thanks verb1der! GO BALDY!! GO NINERS!

Originally posted by verb1der:
I'm highly optimistic about Baldwin for the following reasons..

-now plays in a better system
-has a QB that can get him the ball
-doesn't carry the burden of living up to his draft status as he did KC
-has Boldin as his mentor

If he can be a solid possession WR this year, it will be huge! And I don't think that's asking too much.

We have GOT to get he (and others) the ball more than 1 or 2 passes a game. That is just pathetic and inexcusable. No excuses.

Originally posted by NCommand:
We have GOT to get he (and others) the ball more than 1 or 2 passes a game. That is just pathetic and inexcusable. No excuses.

Yes sir!!! No excuses! Couldn't agree more.

Originally posted by thl408:
There were reports prior to the HOU game about how Kap and Baldwin were working on throws together and it's apparent the throws have to do with Baldwin going up for jump balls. The execution was not there, but the strategy is sound, so it's a bit encouraging.

That is encouraging...the dude has skills no doubt. Get him imvolved early and develop a rhythm!

Originally posted by LoneWolf:

Originally posted by Marvin49:
? Defending my opinion is "snippy"? Thicker skins fellas...thicker skins. lol.

Dont let em get to you marv, your reports kick ass, I look foward to them after each game.

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