2013 SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS vs. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GAMEDAY THREAD (Preseason Game 2)

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by mayo49:
Kap is better in avoiding the rush than Alex was. It should continue.

Without a doubt!

When Kaep avoids rushes, he scores TDs.

I can't wait to see Smith take on his old defense. Wishing this game was televised. I think those streaming sites are bad news.

Originally posted by Mr.Mcgibblets:

Yeah, according to PFF,

- Alex had 2.5 or less seconds 50% of the time.

( just as a comparison )

- Kaep had 2.5 or less seconds 35.7% of the time


Our pass pro definitely took the longest to come together over the last couple years. Obviously, what aided us most was:

- lots of quick 3-5 step decisions to throw it
- Adam Snyder booted for Alex Boone
- Goodwin getting significantly better from 2011 to 2012
- Anthony Davis getting significantly better from 2011 to 2012
- and yes, let's face it.. Kaep has ridiculous athleticism as a QB to separate and backyard ball it.

To add something else interesting...

Kaep had the 2nd best time to attempt passes at 2.88.

Alex had the 28th best time to attempt passes at 2.53.

Wow what a difference stepping up in the pocket and having natural pocket presence can make. Amazing.

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Alex had one of the best OL's in front of him and still got sacked way more than was needed. Chiefs OL can get as good as they want, it won't stop Smith from getting sacked.

The line is good but was in the process of becoming good, or better at pass blocking. Very powerful run line, so-so pass blocking. They jelled last year but CK still had 16 sacks and he's one of the most elusive QBs I've watched...so I put much of that on the line as well. Is KC's line better? Don't know but I look forward to finding out!

Smith's style--take a sack rather than force the ball--led to more sacks and will likely be the same this year. Is this what you are referring to by the bold? But it's a style of QBing that worked well for him the past two years and we'll see if it continues.

I'm not an expert but I have stated before that our o-line provides a small pocket no matter the QB. The first thing I noticed while watching the KC game was that their o-line gave Smitty a big pocket on numerous occasions. If KC can keep it up then Smitty will have a great year.

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:
I can't wait to see Smith take on his old defense. Wishing this game was televised. I think those streaming sites are bad news.

download a free program called 'Adblock'... that should help take away some of the crap you see on those streaming sites.

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Originally posted by natrone06:

Wow what a difference stepping up in the pocket and having natural pocket presence can make. Amazing.

lmao

Originally posted by dtg_9er:

Originally posted by Joecool:
Alex had one of the best OL's in front of him and still got sacked way more than was needed. Chiefs OL can get as good as they want, it won't stop Smith from getting sacked.

The line is good but was in the process of becoming good, or better at pass blocking. Very powerful run line, so-so pass blocking. They jelled last year but CK still had 16 sacks and he's one of the most elusive QBs I've watched...so I put much of that on the line as well. Is KC's line better? Don't know but I look forward to finding out!

Smith's style--take a sack rather than force the ball--led to more sacks and will likely be the same this year. Is this what you are referring to by the bold? But it's a style of QBing that worked well for him the past two years and we'll see if it continues.

Reid's offense differs from the Harbaugh offense in that he follows the Walsh pattern more closely: he always has an immediate outlet to either a back or a TE on every passing play. With the 49ers, VD has never been that quick outlet guy (I think V McDonald will be that guy), and Gore is no longer the receiving threat he once was. KC has Fasano and Moeaki (when healthy) who run those short routes very well and Charles and McCluster are both a threat on short passes. Reid will get the ball to both of those guys a lot.

(looks like Charles will not play this Friday)

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:

download a free program called 'Adblock'... that should help take away some of the crap you see on those streaming sites.

I use, in order from best to meh...

Atdhenet.tv

wiziwig.tv

vipbox.tv

Haven't missed a niners game in years on the east coast thanks to these guys!

Schweet. Ill give it a shot.

I will be at the game Friday looking forward to seeing some of the young players and really looking forward to seeing Kap and the first unit.

Originally posted by dj43:
Reid's offense differs from the Harbaugh offense in that he follows the Walsh pattern more closely: he always has an immediate outlet to either a back or a TE on every passing play. With the 49ers, VD has never been that quick outlet guy (I think V McDonald will be that guy), and Gore is no longer the receiving threat he once was. KC has Fasano and Moeaki (when healthy) who run those short routes very well and Charles and McCluster are both a threat on short passes. Reid will get the ball to both of those guys a lot.

(looks like Charles will not play this Friday)

Good points regarding the quick outlets in the WCO. Not sure why we didn't have that same approach under Harbaugh, but at least it wasn't the Martz or Singletary style!

Originally posted by dj43:
Reid's offense differs from the Harbaugh offense in that he follows the Walsh pattern more closely: he always has an immediate outlet to either a back or a TE on every passing play. With the 49ers, VD has never been that quick outlet guy (I think V McDonald will be that guy), and Gore is no longer the receiving threat he once was. KC has Fasano and Moeaki (when healthy) who run those short routes very well and Charles and McCluster are both a threat on short passes. Reid will get the ball to both of those guys a lot.

(looks like Charles will not play this Friday)

Good post. This isn't about the Chiefs and Reid but that's what I'm probably most excited about watching is Vance be that role. We had guys like Brent Jones and Eric Johnson all these years and we kind of strayed away from that with VD. Now I'm not saying it's a bad thing. VD is an amazing TE, but unlike Jones/Johnson/McDonald(hopefully) he is your new hybrid type TE. He doesn't necessarily do the the dirty work in the holes in the zone, and short quick"dumpoff" type routes that would really help on short yard, goal line, and third down situations.. Harbaugh did reach to get the guy, so obviously it is a need, so that should be fun to watch. Kind of thought Celek looked good and could've fit this role but looks like I'm wrong on that.

Another thing- I understand Gore is older but why can he not even catch the ball anymore? Not saying he can't catch but dude used to be pretty solid back in the day, and now he has hands of stone it seems.

Originally posted by Big_Daddy:
download a free program called 'Adblock'... that should help take away some of the crap you see on those streaming sites.

I use, in order from best to meh...

Atdhenet.tv

wiziwig.tv

vipbox.tv

Haven't missed a niners game in years on the east coast thanks to these guys!

Big daddy..My buddy introduced me to vibbox.tv, does it really work?

Originally posted by natrone06:
Wow what a difference stepping up in the pocket and having natural pocket presence can make. Amazing.

Yup. His pocket awareness was poor.

Originally posted by PrisonOfGlass:
I can't wait to see Smith take on his old defense. Wishing this game was televised. I think those streaming sites are bad news.

oooooooooooooooooooo

directv

The Niners need to have Brooks spy on the outside shoulder of the RT to catch Alex when he rolls to the right to throw it out of bounds