Originally posted by ChazBoner:
he's in the top 32 fo sho.
lol
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Originally posted by ChazBoner:
he's in the top 32 fo sho.
Originally posted by InconvenienTTruth21:
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Funny how Belichick's genius didn't apply to the Browns, or to Drew Bledsoe. What a coincidence that Brady strongly supports the only NFL coach he has ever played for. Who would have thought? Let's see how Belichicks other protege's develop. Matt Cassel, hmm... not exactly playing like Joe Montana did when he left his team and went to the Chiefs.
How about Andrew Luck? Not doing too bad. I wonder who developed him?
Josh Johnson holds the NCAA Division I record for highest career passer efficiency at 176.68.
Hmm... I wonder who Belichick has "developed" at quarterback in his entire career besides Tom Brady? The same Tom Brady who Belichick obviously knew would be a great one, since he selected him all the way up in the 6th round. Nope. Can't actually think of any. Perhaps in time Belichick will win the lottery again, just to prove that he can do it twice.
lol why do you talk/type like that?
Anyways.
You notice Matt Cassel had a great year under Belichick and sucked AFTER he left? The Pats went 11-5 with Cassel lol Belichick made him look like a pro bowl QB. He was very good with Belichick and sucked without him.
And there's a reason Brady was a 6th round pick. He wasn't a great QB coming out of the draft. He wasn't even great right away. Belichick made him great over the years
You don't make any sense.
Belichick made Brady great, and there's nothing you can say to change my mind
And lol at "winning the lottery." To say Brady made Belichick is dumb.
Also, I never said Harbaugh wasn't a great coach, I'm not arguing that at all.
Originally posted by buck:
Give credit where credit is due. Baalke selects the players.
Now, I would assume that Harbaugh had a lot to say in the selection of Colin Kaepernick.
But, I would not make that same assumption about the selection of Aldon Smith.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Belichick is a good NFL coach, but some call him a "genius". That is the only gripe I have with Belichick.
Belichick's record with the Browns:
1991 -- 6 - 10
1992 -- 7 - 9
1993 -- 7 - 9
1994 -- 11 - 5
1995 -- 5 - 11
Belichick's record with the Patriots:
2000 -- 5 - 11
2001 -- 11 - 5 (Brady becomes his quarterback)
2002 -- 9 - 7
2003 -- 14 - 2
2004 -- 14 - 2
2005 -- 10 - 6
2006 -- 12 - 4
2007 -- 16 - 0
2008 -- 11 - 5 (Matt Cassel)
2009 -- 10 - 6
2010 -- 14 - 2
2011 -- 13 - 3
Is this the track record of a "genius"?
Bill Walsh was involved with Joe Montana, Steve Young, Jeff Garcia, Steve Bono, Elvis Grback. Two Hall-of-Famers, a multi-Pro Bowl selection, and two players who played well enough for other teams to try them out as free agent starters.
Walsh scouted, pursued, and/or helped coach most of these guys. They didn't just fall into his lap. Walsh is one of the few coaches who can be called a "genius".
Harbaugh is starting off his young career with a similar track record with winning records and quarterback success.
Belichick's track record is nothing remotely similar to either Walsh or Harbaugh, and therefore he cannot be considered a "genius". A good coach perhaps, but not a "genius". That is my only point.
Originally posted by TinyHandsBigHeart:
Until he wins a Super Bowl he's not in the discussion for best coach. He's done a good job turning teams around, but how many championships has he won at any level? And he hasn't proven that he can sustain success for more than a few seasons because he leaves after a few years. I'd put him in the top half of the league right now, but no better. That could certainly change, but he still has a lot to prove.
Originally posted by 60sfan:
Originally posted by buck:
Give credit where credit is due. Baalke selects the players.
Now, I would assume that Harbaugh had a lot to say in the selection of Colin Kaepernick.
But, I would not make that same assumption about the selection of Aldon Smith.
I am sure Balke runs everything through Harbaugh, as he should. Just like when he ran things through Singletary (Taylor Mays), Ultimately, the head coach should be the buck stops here guy. I give the credit and responsibility to Harbaugh.
Originally posted by buck:
Well, clearly we do not agree.
Sometimes, the coach is the buck stops here guy, but not always when it comes to player selection.
At the press conference announcing the hiring of Harbaugh, one reporter asked who will have the trigger--final say on player selection.
The clear and unequivocal answer given by Harbuagh was Baalke.
I am not saying that Baalke exercises his power capriously or dictorially, but Baalke is responsible for player selection.
The process is a collective process led by Baalke.
You seem to be giving sole credit to Harbaugh. If that it is the case, I do believe you are mistaken.
Harbaugh is proving to be an excellent coach, but it is also true that Baalke is proving to be an excellent general manager.
Both merit credit for their acuquity and hard work.
Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:Ken Whisenhunt
Originally posted by Allx9er:Originally posted by AXEGRINDER:Ken Whisenhunt
Throw that idea around the az forum let us know how it goes. Make sure ya mention that you're a niner faithful.
Originally posted by 60sfan:
Originally posted by buck:
I am willing to admit that the press can be a pain, but treating people with disdain, even if it is merited, is not something that I like or admire.
I really think the way he deals with the press is rank amateurism.
You are right. Disdain is out. But he can manipulate as he pleases.