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Originally posted by Bleed49ers4Life:
Why all the drops? Answer is Timing, Timing, Timing, oh and a bit of chemistry! Our pass catchers and Qb are just getting used to the expanded offensive scheme. Plus with Alex's new and improved mechanics and ball placement. Offensive players are just getting used to seeing the ball being put in the proper spot, which wasn't always wasn't the case in the past.
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Game 1 -
2 clear drops... 1 debatable ( both from Walker )
Game 2 -
6 clear drops... ( Crabtree, Hunter, Gore, Miller, Walker, Manningham )
Total Clear Drops so far = 8
edit: had to make a correction.. in game 1, Walker dropped another, but there was a roughing the passer call that went our way. So the drop counts, as the 15 yarder would have simply been added to the Walker catch that was dropped.
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Game 1 -
2 clear drops... 1 debatable ( both from Walker )
Game 2 -
6 clear drops... ( Crabtree, Hunter, Gore, Miller, Walker, Manningham )
Total Clear Drops so far = 8
edit: had to make a correction.. in game 1, Walker dropped another, but there was a roughing the passer call that went our way. So the drop counts, as the 15 yarder would have simply been added to the Walker catch that was dropped.
Originally posted by NCommand:
Do you have the aggravate total from last year? An average per game...would be a nice comparison for this year. No excuses this year...we have WAY better receivers now and Alex is throwing darts. Scary...hope this trend ends VERY soon. Guys need to be doing pushups during games and spend countless hours catching balls from Alex and the juggs machine!
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:
And this is why the stat "drops" is very subjective. While you see Miller's as a clear drop, it was also a terrible throw. It was low, it was behind him, and it turned him around (and was incredible late arriving there). It absolutely could have been caught, but the throw was the reason it wasnt. Not sure if it showed on TV, but Alex's reaction to the play said it all.
But yes, overall, drops are a huge problem that need to be fixed.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:And this is why the stat "drops" is very subjective. While you see Miller's as a clear drop, it was also a terrible throw. It was low, it was behind him, and it turned him around (and was incredible late arriving there). It absolutely could have been caught, but the throw was the reason it wasnt. Not sure if it showed on TV, but Alex's reaction to the play said it all.
But yes, overall, drops are a huge problem that need to be fixed.
Originally posted by 80sbaby24:its not subective
And this is why the stat "drops" is very subjective. While you see Miller's as a clear drop, it was also a terrible throw. It was low, it was behind him, and it turned him around (and was incredible late arriving there). It absolutely could have been caught, but the throw was the reason it wasnt. Not sure if it showed on TV, but Alex's reaction to the play said it all.
But yes, overall, drops are a huge problem that need to be fixed.
Hank Gargiulo of ESPN Stats & Information passed along the written standard our game charters rely upon to reduce subjectivity. This standard says drops are "incomplete passes where the receiver SHOULD have caught the pass with ORDINARY effort." Basically, we're talking about blatant drops, not the ones where your old man leans over and says anything that grazed the receiver anywhere was a drop in his day. "Only use this if the receiver is 100 ac percent at fault and no one else can be blamed for the incompletion," ESPN tells its game charters. "Pass interference that wasn't called/passes thrown just outside the receiver's reach, etc., are NOT drops."
Originally posted by 4evrfan:
One sequence had 3 drops in a row. No excuses. This is pro football, not pee wee. Nothing to do with "timing" either.
Originally posted by prime21:
I would attribute it more to bad luck than anything else. On one of those Alex seemed to have gunned a lil harder than he probably should have...albeit it might have been an INT otherwise.......i believe it was to Manningham over the middle, went right through his hands...should he have caught it? probably, but good players drop the ball here and there...Its like Jordan shooting Free Throws, he will miss a few. Dont worry too much about it....its early in the season and we are still trying to catch a rhythm....we will lock it down soon enough.
Originally posted by oldman9er:
Originally posted by prime21:
I would attribute it more to bad luck than anything else. On one of those Alex seemed to have gunned a lil harder than he probably should have...albeit it might have been an INT otherwise.......i believe it was to Manningham over the middle, went right through his hands...should he have caught it? probably, but good players drop the ball here and there...Its like Jordan shooting Free Throws, he will miss a few. Dont worry too much about it....its early in the season and we are still trying to catch a rhythm....we will lock it down soon enough.
Sounds fair. And the drop info is not to be interpreted as people panicking and freaking out. It's just one of those negatives that we need to improve on if we are to start talking about finishing off teams earlier instead of always having to sweat the last few minutes out.
