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Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
Based on my assessment of him out of college...his limited play in the preseason/reg season...and articles...yes I can.

Well Harbaugh thought his college play warranted a 2nd round pick and the primary backup role LAST year. Lol regular season play? So you are saying that you can analyze a player with 5 regular season snaps and a bunch of articles you read that were written by people who know nothing about Kaepernick? Cool bro.

Leave him be, doesn't know what he's talking about, lol
Originally posted by 99problems:
last i checked doesnt Alex play well from the spread.
moose is a cowboy so therefore he can GFHS

QFT
Originally posted by DirtyP:
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
Based on my assessment of him out of college...his limited play in the preseason/reg season...and articles...yes I can.

Well Harbaugh thought his college play warranted a 2nd round pick and the primary backup role LAST year. Lol regular season play? So you are saying that you can analyze a player with 5 regular season snaps and a bunch of articles you read that were written by people who know nothing about Kaepernick? Cool bro.

I think our front office freaked out when Dalton got picked and wasted draft picks trading up for the highest QB they had on their board even though he was over drafted. How many times last year and this offseason have we seen reports that this guys is having trouble catching on? Quite a few actually. So you're telling me beat writers and NFL sources are just saying this negative stuff about Kaep because they have nothing else to do? Yea because that happens all the time...bro.
No one should have any strong conclusions about Kaepernick at this point, IMHO.

.. but again, we brought in these new weapons to help the entire offense... not just one QB or the other.
This subject is actually covered in this thread:
http://www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/166494-niners-on-nfln-of-tonight/
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
I think our front office freaked out when Dalton got picked and wasted draft picks trading up for the highest QB they had on their board even though he was over drafted. How many times last year and this offseason have we seen reports that this guys is having trouble catching on? Quite a few actually. So you're telling me beat writers and NFL sources are just saying this negative stuff about Kaep because they have nothing else to do? Yea because that happens all the time...bro.

Yep news reports are the holy grail.

Aldon Smith at number 7 was a reach, we were supposed to finish last and be in the hunt for Luck last year, everyone predicted the Giants to win the Super Bowl at the end of the regular season, and Steve Bono should replace Montana and not Steve Young. Ya man all those stories that people wrote about those situations are legit.

Nobody is in the huddle or at the training facility. All I know is Kaepernick was at the teams facility working out all offseason throwing passes to whoever would catch them. That is hard work and dedication. Those are two assets that many individuals don't have and are the framework to success. Let us not judge someone off of their first 55 throws in the NFL with 50 of them coming in Preseason games their rookie year without a minicamp. Yes many rookie QBs were successful (Cam/Dalton), but they were more polished. Nobody expected that type of production out of Kaep his rookie year because of his transition from the offense he ran at Nevada to the pro game.
[ Edited by Youngb on Jul 18, 2012 at 11:31 AM ]
Originally posted by Youngb:
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
I think our front office freaked out when Dalton got picked and wasted draft picks trading up for the highest QB they had on their board even though he was over drafted. How many times last year and this offseason have we seen reports that this guys is having trouble catching on? Quite a few actually. So you're telling me beat writers and NFL sources are just saying this negative stuff about Kaep because they have nothing else to do? Yea because that happens all the time...bro.

Yep news reports are the holy grail.

Aldon Smith at number 7 was a reach, we were supposed to finish last and be in the hunt for Luck last year, everyone predicted the Giants to win the Super Bowl at the end of the regular season, and Steve Bono should replace Montana and not Steve Young. Ya man all those stories that people wrote about those situations are legit.

Nobody is in the huddle or at the training facility. All I know is Kaepernick was at the teams facility working out all offseason throwing passes to whoever would catch them. That is hard work and dedication. Those are two assets that many individuals don't have and are the framework to success. Let us not judge someone off of their first 55 throws in the NFL with 50 of them coming in Preseason games their rookie year without a minicamp. Yes many rookie QBs were successful (Cam/Dalton), but they were more polished. Nobody expected that type of production out of Kaep his rookie year because of his transition from the offense he ran at Nevada to the pro game.

I agree reports arent always correct...I work in sports media and this dwight howard situation has proved that haha

However you're looking at one side of it...media isnt always wrong...

Also you Cam and Dalton we're ready to play...Kaep isnt...and still isnt apparently and all I'm saying is he has a way to go to be the starter so the team isnt making decision on personnel as if he's the starter for the future.
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
I agree reports arent always correct...I work in sports media and this dwight howard situation has proved that haha

However you're looking at one side of it...media isnt always wrong...

Also you Cam and Dalton we're ready to play...Kaep isnt...and still isnt apparently and all I'm saying is he has a way to go to be the starter so the team isnt making decision on personnel as if he's the starter for the future.

Small correction... Cam was ready to play in the style allowed to him by Chud. (backyard ball)

" jus run around a pitch it however you see fit, boy.. we can teach you as you go "
You know how many times Moose & Dukes mentioned CK in that broadcast?

Zero times.

Also, Moss was a no-risk signing. I don't think that is a sign of building towards anything in particular.

I think that is getting a really good deal at an "EVERYTHING MUST GO" sale.
God, I pray CK7 becomes our future at QB. He is so talented! I can only imagine what he is capapble of doing once he master's that play book
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Originally posted by Sjceruti:
Kaepernick has show nothing to make me think the team is building for him...Kaep has miles of work to do to even be a backup.

there's no way u can know that, plus he's going into camp as our #2 qb (NO, I dont want him to start)
Disagree.

The speed WR & draft signings were all about our receivers not being able to get separation. VD was the only one.

Also, highly disagree that the front office freaked out. Baalke doesn't freak out and make panic decisions.
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
I think our front office freaked out when Dalton got picked and wasted draft picks trading up for the highest QB they had on their board even though he was over drafted. How many times last year and this offseason have we seen reports that this guys is having trouble catching on? Quite a few actually. So you're telling me beat writers and NFL sources are just saying this negative stuff about Kaep because they have nothing else to do? Yea because that happens all the time...bro.


1) The 49ers draft room cheered out loud when the Bengals selected Andy Dalton.
2) Kaepernick has had 5 entire weeks of training camp in the NFL to beat out an 8 year player. What pray-tell happened in those five weeks to indicate that he isn't "catching on"?

We waited 7 years for a particular quarterback to catch on, and by all "reports", he was a bust.
So now, the draft pick that the GM of the year and draft room cheered for only gets five weeks to prove himself. That is some tough sledding.
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
Based on my assessment of him out of college...his limited play in the preseason/reg season...and articles...yes I can.

Basing it on articles written by people who are guessing since we all know that the media is not allowed to watch the real meat of the practices is not a basis for a good assessment. Also, his limited play also doesn't allow for a good assessment either as he was in mop up duty and didn't get to be analyzed in an assorted array of situations.

Also, college was college-this is now and in a different system. JH is in no rush, Kaep will get his op, Jim is doing it right, let him develope and get comfortable and confident. He also wants to see how far he can go with Alex.

As far as the original post goes, it was just to beef up the off. wr position. Unless Kaep starts this year, if Moss has a decent year like 10 tds or more, we will probably lose him the following year cause of the cap. situation in the future.
Originally posted by BrianGO:
Originally posted by Sjceruti:
I think our front office freaked out when Dalton got picked and wasted draft picks trading up for the highest QB they had on their board even though he was over drafted. How many times last year and this offseason have we seen reports that this guys is having trouble catching on? Quite a few actually. So you're telling me beat writers and NFL sources are just saying this negative stuff about Kaep because they have nothing else to do? Yea because that happens all the time...bro.


1) The 49ers draft room cheered out loud when the Bengals selected Andy Dalton.
2) Kaepernick has had 5 entire weeks of training camp in the NFL to beat out an 8 year player. What pray-tell happened in those five weeks to indicate that he isn't "catching on"?

We waited 7 years for a particular quarterback to catch on, and by all "reports", he was a bust.
So now, the draft pick that the GM of the year and draft room cheered for only gets five weeks to prove himself. That is some tough sledding.

I can only wait seven years so many times!!!
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