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Could Dashon Goldson be our next Ronnie Lott?
Nov 23, 2011 at 7:54 AM
- Kolohe
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Let me know when Goldson has dominated at each position in the secondary.
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Nov 23, 2011 at 7:57 AM
- dtg_9er
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Originally posted by Kolohe:
Let me know when Goldson has dominated at each position in the secondary.
We can start by saying "0" and holding our breath.
Nov 23, 2011 at 7:59 AM
- lamontb
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threads like this should be closed
Nov 23, 2011 at 8:46 AM
- NinerGold39
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He hits hard, but he's no Ronnie Lott.
Nov 23, 2011 at 1:10 PM
- HearstFan
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If you mean, could he be the "enforcer" in our secondary? I hope so. Would he ever match the skills of Lott? Never.
Most of that is that Lott was a rare athlete with extreme, EXTREME dedication. Even as a rookie he played well enough to emerge as a vocal leader.
But its also the design of offenses and defenses today. Offenses were a bit simpler than today, and with the strong 49ers defense that emerged in the 1980s, he was given a lot of latitude to roam the secondary (his athleticism allowed that, a la Reed and Palamalu), but also play downhill on the run a lot more aggressively. Lott could register a couple of big hits a game -- so his reputation preceded him. With today's passing attacks, safeties are forced to play deeper a lot more. Add to that the league wanting this to be a powder puff league with no big hits, and it is a different era.
BUT, to Goldson's credit, when he has chances to read and react, he closes very swiftly and lays big hits on people. LOVE THAT. Would love to see more of it!
Most of that is that Lott was a rare athlete with extreme, EXTREME dedication. Even as a rookie he played well enough to emerge as a vocal leader.
But its also the design of offenses and defenses today. Offenses were a bit simpler than today, and with the strong 49ers defense that emerged in the 1980s, he was given a lot of latitude to roam the secondary (his athleticism allowed that, a la Reed and Palamalu), but also play downhill on the run a lot more aggressively. Lott could register a couple of big hits a game -- so his reputation preceded him. With today's passing attacks, safeties are forced to play deeper a lot more. Add to that the league wanting this to be a powder puff league with no big hits, and it is a different era.
BUT, to Goldson's credit, when he has chances to read and react, he closes very swiftly and lays big hits on people. LOVE THAT. Would love to see more of it!
[ Edited by HearstFan on Nov 23, 2011 at 4:04 PM ]
Nov 23, 2011 at 1:25 PM
- dtg_9er
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Lott was a leader the first time he stepped on the field in SF. He was/is smart, dedicated, quick and had uncanny instincts. He was also willing to give up his own safety, no pun intended, to win!
Nov 23, 2011 at 1:26 PM
- drunk49er
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this is on par to asking if alex smith could be the next joe montana
Nov 23, 2011 at 4:00 PM
- Envy
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I think with time people forget about the abilities of the great players. Its just too easy to say he was a great player and not actually think what it took game in and game out to become great. Ronnie Lott is without question the greatest defender the 49ers ever had. You could argue he is the greatest pure defender in Canton.
Goldson is a player who underachieved and is now blossoming. I hope he finds common sense from somewhere and realises that wealth is secondary to winning.
Goldson is a player who underachieved and is now blossoming. I hope he finds common sense from somewhere and realises that wealth is secondary to winning.
[ Edited by Envy on Nov 23, 2011 at 4:00 PM ]
Nov 23, 2011 at 4:02 PM
- KowboyKiller
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I'm hoping he can be the next Merton Hanks. I wanna see the chicken dance again.
Nov 23, 2011 at 4:02 PM
- Bluefalcon61
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lol, really?
Our entire secondary isn't as good as Ronnie Lott.
Our entire secondary isn't as good as Ronnie Lott.
Nov 23, 2011 at 8:56 PM
- pasodoc9er
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Put me down with the Falcon on this.
Nov 23, 2011 at 9:05 PM
- adrenaline
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Not in a million years. Lott is the greatest defensive back ever.
Nov 23, 2011 at 9:30 PM
- BETTERDAYZ9ERS
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Blasphemy.
Nov 23, 2011 at 9:38 PM
- KID9R
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Originally posted by Envy:I think with time people forget about the abilities of the great players. Its just too easy to say he was a great player and not actually think what it took game in and game out to become great. Ronnie Lott is without question the greatest defender the 49ers ever had. You could argue he is the greatest pure defender in Canton.
Goldson is a player who underachieved and is now blossoming. I hope he finds common sense from somewhere and realises that wealth is secondary to winning.
Easy for you to say when it's not you're money
Nov 24, 2011 at 2:52 PM
- Envy
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Originally posted by KID9R:
Originally posted by Envy:
I think with time people forget about the abilities of the great players. Its just too easy to say he was a great player and not actually think what it took game in and game out to become great. Ronnie Lott is without question the greatest defender the 49ers ever had. You could argue he is the greatest pure defender in Canton.
Goldson is a player who underachieved and is now blossoming. I hope he finds common sense from somewhere and realises that wealth is secondary to winning.
Easy for you to say when it's not you're money
Very true. But who do you think the world will remember in years to come. Tom Brady or Jamarcus Russell?
In the end you either turn up to get paid or you play the game to be the best. Sometimes. With some teams......you can't have both.