Week 11: Thoughts after Re-watching the game...

My only nitpick is Alex can never throw a catchable dump/flat pass. He throws too hard for receivers to adjust.

I felt that there was a lack of energy in the offense on Sunday. I don't know whether they had the Ravens in the back of the mind and I know thats not the way Harbaugh would have coached it (one game at a time and all that) but 4 days before the biggest game of our season on the other side of the country has to be in your thoughts somewhere. Maybe i'm wrong but thats how it came across to me, a bit lacklustre. Not complaining though a wins a win.

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
You forgot to give Cully and Brown some love. They did a good job out there yesterday.

Smith had some very suspect throws, but that one to Edwards into the end zone was very good. Don't take that one away from Smith.

NOt really. Edwards was WIDE OPEN. All Smith had to do was put it on him. There was no need to put the ball 3 feet over his head.

Yes, Braylon should have caught it, but it could have been an easy pitch and catch. They are both respobsible for that one.

When a QB "Just puts it on him" it gets picked off because the corner cuts it off or a LB drops a few steps and picks it our of the air. The better pass is where only your receiver can make the play, so 3 Feet over his head was the best placement. Thats on Brylon, he has to make that play....

Originally posted by BrianGO:
I'm tired of all these negative posts. EVERY single one of Alex Smith's throws was absolutely picture perfect.

1) Braylon Edwards needs to grab that pass with his finger nails. That's what Aaron Rogers receiver's do. In fact, their finger nails are torn, twisted and bleeding after every game because they catch so many perfect passes with them.

2) Vernon Davis has to learn to not catch balls while his feet are out of bounds. Idiot. Aaron Rogers receivers would have tip-toed along the sideline, reached out with one hand out of bounds, and then impaled the ball onto their amazing f**ked-up fingernails. Those Green Bay receivers can actually open cans with those things.

3) Vernon Davis again. If the ball hits the ground its incomplete, dufus. How long are his fingernails anyway? Apparently not that long. Unlike the Green Bay WR's, who are dedicated to growing their nails to freakish lengths, Vernon Davis prefers to strengthen the fleshy parts of his hands instead. Poor move Davis. If your fingernails were only 3-4 feet long, you could have come down with that second sideline pass. The ball was perfectly thrown, how could the quarterback know that you didn't dedicate the last 6 years of your life to growing hideously long finger nails? The Packers receivers do, why not you?

4) And Crabtree, OMG don't get me started on Crabtree. Hasn't this idiot figured out that you have to be UNDER the football before it hits the ground? Earth to Crabtree? Hello, anyone home? Rogers receivers fingernails are so long, they actually curl around 5 feet. His receivers would have uncoiled those horrible (yet oh so beautiful) things up into the air, enveloping the ball in a scratchy disgusting mess, and then thanked their lucky stars they have an All-Pro quarterback who throws perfect passes to their amazing, grotesque, sensational fingernails.

Thanks for the morning chuckle.


With that said, I just dont understand why there is so much crying around here? Does Alex throw bad passes a few times a game? Yes. Do the recievers occasionally drop a pass? Yes. Does this happen to every NFL teams, even the good one? Yes. We are 9-1, what the crap stick is the problem?

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Thanks for the morning chuckle.


With that said, I just dont understand why there is so much crying around here? Does Alex throw bad passes a few times a game? Yes. Do the recievers occasionally drop a pass? Yes. Does this happen to every NFL teams, even the good one? Yes. We are 9-1, what the crap stick is the problem?

That was a good one from Brian, and you are right, people are being way too anal about nitpicking a play in a game that was inconsequential to the outcome.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by nvchamp9ers:

Thanks for the compliment! Always good to see how our team winning and have other football guy to talk about it with

when are we getting draft reports on DB's?

I literally just finished a write up on Bamas Db's, should be up within a week or 2.

Originally posted by 49erYamz510:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
You forgot to give Cully and Brown some love. They did a good job out there yesterday.

Smith had some very suspect throws, but that one to Edwards into the end zone was very good. Don't take that one away from Smith.

NOt really. Edwards was WIDE OPEN. All Smith had to do was put it on him. There was no need to put the ball 3 feet over his head.

Yes, Braylon should have caught it, but it could have been an easy pitch and catch. They are both respobsible for that one.

When a QB "Just puts it on him" it gets picked off because the corner cuts it off or a LB drops a few steps and picks it our of the air. The better pass is where only your receiver can make the play, so 3 Feet over his head was the best placement. Thats on Brylon, he has to make that play....

If it were tight coverage, I would fault Edwards for that drop. Yes, it was a drop. But it wasn't tight coverage and Alex has a history of turning reheating a chicken nugget in the microwave into preparing and cooking pad ke mao.

Personally, both Smith and Braylon were at fault but I would say Smith played more of a role in it.

Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:

Originally posted by BrianGO:
I'm tired of all these negative posts. EVERY single one of Alex Smith's throws was absolutely picture perfect.

1) Braylon Edwards needs to grab that pass with his finger nails. That's what Aaron Rogers receiver's do. In fact, their finger nails are torn, twisted and bleeding after every game because they catch so many perfect passes with them.

2) Vernon Davis has to learn to not catch balls while his feet are out of bounds. Idiot. Aaron Rogers receivers would have tip-toed along the sideline, reached out with one hand out of bounds, and then impaled the ball onto their amazing f**ked-up fingernails. Those Green Bay receivers can actually open cans with those things.

3) Vernon Davis again. If the ball hits the ground its incomplete, dufus. How long are his fingernails anyway? Apparently not that long. Unlike the Green Bay WR's, who are dedicated to growing their nails to freakish lengths, Vernon Davis prefers to strengthen the fleshy parts of his hands instead. Poor move Davis. If your fingernails were only 3-4 feet long, you could have come down with that second sideline pass. The ball was perfectly thrown, how could the quarterback know that you didn't dedicate the last 6 years of your life to growing hideously long finger nails? The Packers receivers do, why not you?

4) And Crabtree, OMG don't get me started on Crabtree. Hasn't this idiot figured out that you have to be UNDER the football before it hits the ground? Earth to Crabtree? Hello, anyone home? Rogers receivers fingernails are so long, they actually curl around 5 feet. His receivers would have uncoiled those horrible (yet oh so beautiful) things up into the air, enveloping the ball in a scratchy disgusting mess, and then thanked their lucky stars they have an All-Pro quarterback who throws perfect passes to their amazing, grotesque, sensational fingernails.

Thanks for the morning chuckle.


With that said, I just dont understand why there is so much crying around here? Does Alex throw bad passes a few times a game? Yes. Do the recievers occasionally drop a pass? Yes. Does this happen to every NFL teams, even the good one? Yes. We are 9-1, what the crap stick is the problem?

Thats kinda why I worded my first post the wsay I did. I think we've gotten to a place now where we can say he had a rough game and not have the conversation turn into "he's a bust" again. QB have good games and bad games. I think we've taken a huge step forward when we are talking about a 2 TD 1 INT day as a "rough" day.

That just speaks to how well he's played this year.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by 49erYamz510:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:
You forgot to give Cully and Brown some love. They did a good job out there yesterday.

Smith had some very suspect throws, but that one to Edwards into the end zone was very good. Don't take that one away from Smith.

NOt really. Edwards was WIDE OPEN. All Smith had to do was put it on him. There was no need to put the ball 3 feet over his head.

Yes, Braylon should have caught it, but it could have been an easy pitch and catch. They are both respobsible for that one.

When a QB "Just puts it on him" it gets picked off because the corner cuts it off or a LB drops a few steps and picks it our of the air. The better pass is where only your receiver can make the play, so 3 Feet over his head was the best placement. Thats on Brylon, he has to make that play....

If it were tight coverage, I would fault Edwards for that drop. Yes, it was a drop. But it wasn't tight coverage and Alex has a history of turning reheating a chicken nugget in the microwave into preparing and cooking pad ke mao.

Personally, both Smith and Braylon were at fault but I would say Smith played more of a role in it.

I understand what you are saying, but I've always been the believer if the ball is catchable, then it's the receivers job to bring it in. The ball was high, but still very catchable. It's not that difficult of a catch. I mean you see guys like Calvin Johnson getting a good amount of his T.D's off of jump balls. It takes effort and big plays to be a great receiver in this league. Look at Fitzgerald, the ball was tipped and he caught it. That's what good receivers do. They help their QB. And I'm Not saying Braylon can't be a force, just using that as an example. Also, when's the last time we've had a receiver make a "wow" type catch? It's been quite a while.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by 49erYamz510:

Originally posted by Marvin49:

Originally posted by qnnhan7:

You forgot to give Cully and Brown some love. They did a good job out there yesterday.

Smith had some very suspect throws, but that one to Edwards into the end zone was very good. Don't take that one away from Smith.

NOt really. Edwards was WIDE OPEN. All Smith had to do was put it on him. There was no need to put the ball 3 feet over his head.

Yes, Braylon should have caught it, but it could have been an easy pitch and catch. They are both respobsible for that one.

When a QB "Just puts it on him" it gets picked off because the corner cuts it off or a LB drops a few steps and picks it our of the air. The better pass is where only your receiver can make the play, so 3 Feet over his head was the best placement. Thats on Brylon, he has to make that play....

If it were tight coverage, I would fault Edwards for that drop. Yes, it was a drop. But it wasn't tight coverage and Alex has a history of turning reheating a chicken nugget in the microwave into preparing and cooking pad ke mao.

Personally, both Smith and Braylon were at fault but I would say Smith played more of a role in it.

Please go back to the start of the thread and see why this was 100% on Braylon, i broke down the route and explained it, nice easy read to see why

Originally posted by nvchamp9ers:
Please go back to the start of the thread and see why this was 100% on Braylon, i broke down the route and explained it, nice easy read to see why

Yeah but I don't agree with that. Rarely are there flat fades to the corner of the endzone if any at all. There are flat fades in terms of back shoulder but not THAT throw. The velocity of the ball still would not have given Bralyon time to get further upfield. He barely had time to turn where he was at and still get his arms up. The ball was thrown TOO flat and high. Smith should have either thrown it with a little more arc or thrown it with less velocity like he did with Kyle Williams. Of course, these were different routes but, similar to Braylon, Kyle was wide open and Alex finally slowed it down to get the TD. A few weeks ago, Alex did the same thing with Braylon, twice he put way too much zip on the ball and was off target with a high velocity flat throw.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by nvchamp9ers:

Please go back to the start of the thread and see why this was 100% on Braylon, i broke down the route and explained it, nice easy read to see why

Yeah but I don't agree with that. Rarely are there flat fades to the corner of the endzone if any at all. There are flat fades in terms of back shoulder but not THAT throw. The velocity of the ball still would not have given Bralyon time to get further upfield. He barely had time to turn where he was at and still get his arms up. The ball was thrown TOO flat and high. Smith should have either thrown it with a little more arc or thrown it with less velocity like he did with Kyle Williams. Of course, these were different routes but, similar to Braylon, Kyle was wide open and Alex finally slowed it down to get the TD. A few weeks ago, Alex did the same thing with Braylon, twice he put way too much zip on the ball and was off target with a high velocity flat throw.

Guess we will just agree to disagree on that specific play but as for saying, those passes are "rarely" if ever thrown to the corner, that is just flat out wrong and misinformation right rrr. That route/ play is a staple of EVERY NFL playbook, period. As a point of reference please see the game tying play Washington had vs. Dallas just this week, literally the same exact route and throw, difference is the receiver finished the route. So idk where u got the info the ball is rarely,thrown there but that is wrong.

Would you guys just stop?

You know it was raining, right?

Things get sloppy in the rain.

It isn't a big deal.

Originally posted by nvchamp9ers:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by nvchamp9ers:
Please go back to the start of the thread and see why this was 100% on Braylon, i broke down the route and explained it, nice easy read to see why

Yeah but I don't agree with that. Rarely are there flat fades to the corner of the endzone if any at all. There are flat fades in terms of back shoulder but not THAT throw. The velocity of the ball still would not have given Bralyon time to get further upfield. He barely had time to turn where he was at and still get his arms up. The ball was thrown TOO flat and high. Smith should have either thrown it with a little more arc or thrown it with less velocity like he did with Kyle Williams. Of course, these were different routes but, similar to Braylon, Kyle was wide open and Alex finally slowed it down to get the TD. A few weeks ago, Alex did the same thing with Braylon, twice he put way too much zip on the ball and was off target with a high velocity flat throw.

Guess we will just agree to disagree on that specific play but as for saying, those passes are "rarely" if ever thrown to the corner, that is just flat out wrong and misinformation right rrr. That route/ play is a staple of EVERY NFL playbook, period. As a point of reference please see the game tying play Washington had vs. Dallas just this week, literally the same exact route and throw, difference is the receiver finished the route. So idk where u got the info the ball is rarely,thrown there but that is wrong.

That throw was not even close to the same as the one Alex threw. Grossman threw a true fade corner and put air under the ball and the WR caught it over the shoulder basket catch. Alex zipped it straight and high. Braylon did what any WR would do when they see a flat pass like that, which is to turn around because it's too flat to catch over the shoulder.