New Principle Owner Jed York Thread

Originally posted by TheBhagwan:
after last night game..
the world saw the shanahan-lynch friction is real
the narrative will develop as the offseason goes on

theres NO WAY jed extends those contracts after last night embarrassment

this team won't go back to the sb until someones hold accountable for this
it's how business and structure works, you fail somebody heads rolls and everyone gets back on track
if not then what have you learn from loosing?

and the head that will roll will be Jimmy G's
why why why? are you gonna keep paying him 27million dollars for the next 3 years if you know he does work on your system?

Lynch wanting a timeout does not show anything about any friction whatsoever. It only shows that Lynch wanted a timeout in that moment.

Originally posted by Niners_D:
Lynch wanting a timeout does not show anything about any friction whatsoever. It only shows that Lynch wanted a timeout in that moment.

I'm sure they talked about it after the game, and have already moved forward past it, too.

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by TheBhagwan:
after last night game..
the world saw the shanahan-lynch friction is real
the narrative will develop as the offseason goes on

theres NO WAY jed extends those contracts after last night embarrassment

this team won't go back to the sb until someones hold accountable for this
it's how business and structure works, you fail somebody heads rolls and everyone gets back on track
if not then what have you learn from loosing?

and the head that will roll will be Jimmy G's
why why why? are you gonna keep paying him 27million dollars for the next 3 years if you know he does work on your system?

Lynch wanting a timeout does not show anything about any friction whatsoever. It only shows that Lynch wanted a timeout in that moment.

It shows that he is thinking that he knows more about coaching that situation then Kyle does.

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Niners_D:
Lynch wanting a timeout does not show anything about any friction whatsoever. It only shows that Lynch wanted a timeout in that moment.

I'm sure they talked about it after the game, and have already moved forward past it, too.

I'm sure KS wasn't cool with this and is thinking about undermining JL moving forward.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Niners_D:
Lynch wanting a timeout does not show anything about any friction whatsoever. It only shows that Lynch wanted a timeout in that moment.

I'm sure they talked about it after the game, and have already moved forward past it, too.

I'm sure KS wasn't cool with this and is thinking about undermining JL moving forward.

He was in a booth showing human emotion in the moment and a camera happened to catch it. Everything else is jumping to unnecessary conclusions.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by jcs:

Originally posted by TheBhagwan:

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by glorydayz:
Here he's giving Shanahan and Lynch Huge extensions!

I hope he's talking about "Dooky Braids"

I hope he sticks with his pre-super bowl words

after last night game..
the world saw the shanahan-lynch friction is real
the narrative will develop as the offseason goes on

theres NO WAY jed extends those contracts after last night embarrassment

this team won't go back to the sb until someones hold accountable for this
it's how business and structure works, you fail somebody heads rolls and everyone gets back on track
if not then what have you learn from loosing?

and the head that will roll will be Jimmy G's
why why why? are you gonna keep paying him 27million dollars for the next 3 years if you know he does work on your system?

And who do you replace him with?

Kap?

GTFOH with that BS... Jimmy is a good NFL quarterback. He works well in Shanny's system. We went the damned SUPERBOWL and lost to a VERY VERY dangerous Kansas City team and all y'all wanna blow everything up. We are gonna lose some players (Armistead, McKinnon, Goodwin and probably Breida and some others).. but we are also gonna gain some others as well... as a Superbowl team, we are attractive in the FA market. We reload and do it all over in 2020.. not go for the nuclear option.

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Originally posted by TheBhagwan:

after last night game..
the world saw the shanahan-lynch friction is real
the narrative will develop as the offseason goes on

theres NO WAY jed extends those contracts after last night embarrassment

this team won't go back to the sb until someones hold accountable for this
it's how business and structure works, you fail somebody heads rolls and everyone gets back on track
if not then what have you learn from loosing?

and the head that will roll will be Jimmy G's
why why why? are you gonna keep paying him 27million dollars for the next 3 years if you know he does work on your system?

Lynch wanting a timeout does not show anything about any friction whatsoever. It only shows that Lynch wanted a timeout in that moment.

Seriously. Let's try and read into something that doesn't exist. He was passionately rooting for his team. Nothing more, nothing less.

Originally posted by TheBhagwan:

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Kap?

who else?
Tom Brady!

when the warriors lost to the cavs on the 15-16 season
they went out and signes kevin durant!
that's hardball

Tom Brady

LOL

Go back to your other user name. This one is a fail.

Originally posted by glorydayz:

Originally posted by captveg:

Originally posted by Niners_D:

Lynch wanting a timeout does not show anything about any friction whatsoever. It only shows that Lynch wanted a timeout in that moment.

I'm sure they talked about it after the game, and have already moved forward past it, too.

I'm sure KS wasn't cool with this and is thinking about undermining JL moving forward.

Yes, I am sure he is spending his time thinking about undermining Lynch. That would be a solid career move, much smarter than trying to get back to the SB.

LOL

I have so much to say so please stay with me....to start I am seeing two polar opposite sided reactions here in which i dont agree with either of them. First, anyone saying we need to move on from Kyle is overreacting. Yep, he messed up in the SB. He overthought things and was so worried about the other team it caused him to abandon what has made him so successful this year. He is a good coach but just messed up this one game. Granted. It was the SB. Makes it worse. But he is the best coach we have had in a long time.
Second, we need to hold people accountable despite loving them. These players make millions and its their 'profession'. In any profession, if in your job you really perform poorly, you will be pulled aside and talked to and expected to learn and improve. Same goes for coaches and players. Kyle messed up. Lynch and Jed, in a positive constructive way need to talk to Kyle about what went wrong. And this talk needs to happen with Jimmy G as well.
Jimmy G is an average game manager at best. This is not a diss. To be at the NFL level and be a game manager to me is actually good. Its not great and its not 'franchise' level play, but with how this team was put together it wasnt needed either. However we do need to be consistent, and there is my concern here. With the game tied at 10, having your timeouts with almost 2 minutes left, you must try to score. You must have that killer mentality and for a reason our coach didnt. That reason was the lack of consistency with the QB. After the game our very own coach stated he was comfortable being tied at 10 going into the half which is how he explains his play calling. When i heard that my heart sank. You simply can not win with that mindset going up vs a team that can put points up fast. You cant win by having the other team dictate your calls. And really what message do you think that sent to our players? What do tou think Kittle or Deebo (who set a record for wr in rushing and yet was not in our plays in the second half), or to Sanders and or defense? It tells them rhe coach is not confident in them. Its bad.
So it's obvious how the coach evaluated Jimmy G. And being honest yes, he played very poorly when it mattered most. Some talk about how he played in the first 3 quarters and how good it was. It looked good with the stats. Ut most of his yards were YAC yards. In reality he was throwing for an average of 4.7 yards per throw, and then our wrs expanded on after the catch to their credit. Most of the time he was a single read qb who threw lots of checkdowns. He was raddled the who game. A statue in the pocket. This is just who Jimmy G is, good and bad. Can the kid get better, calm down emotionally and improve? I really hope so. But if you are going to stick with him and expect to win, you must playcall a certain type of game designed around his limitations. And we did that all season long by creating a creative run game with tons of motion and trick zone runs and high percentage medium range passes and short passes thst allowed all those YAC yards. Can we win with this QB? Yes. But you have to call the right game in the right system to make it work. A QB like this can have a onevin awhile very good game such as vs the Saints and Cards, BUT wont deliver this type of result consistently. When he is focused and calmed down he is an average game manager and in this system i have no problem with that at all. Because we can wn with that, as we have all year.
Yes Jimmy played poorly. Because we abandoned the style of game that hides his weaknesses and highlights his strengths. That is what cost us this game. Kyle for some reason abandoned what has worked all year and asked Jimmy G to do things that dont play to what he can actually do.
Now that is just truth. You dont have to agree with or like it. And no i am not even saying we need to fire our coach. Thats silly. However IF you are going to keep this QB you must stick with the plan he can actually work with. If you are not going to then get a different QB. Go get Ryan Tannihill who is a bit better of a QB to be honest. However to win you dont even need to change QBs. You must however not allow yourself to once again overthink things and abandon what has worked all year. Kyle got freaked out, coached out of fear (which he practically eluded to after the game as he explained his actions before the half), and it resulted in overthinking, trying to protect a lead as opposed to expand it, went conservative, and it cost us a championship.
So what would help make this a bit more...idk, digestable? Honestly, if Kyle came out and simply stated that he made some mistakes, that he promises to take them to heart and learn from them, and said he will grow and lesrn from this and move forward. That type of self accountability is leadership to me. Failure doesnt define us its how we react to it. My biggest fear here is that he feels he didnt nothing at all wrong, refuses to acknowledge mistakes, and keeps doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result. Saying something like "We just failed to execute " to me is a cop out and deflects the blame on the players. Some players played poorly. Yes. But
I dont blame our defense. How much can we ask of them? They were not given a breather for god sake in the 4th because our offense could not get first downs. We were averaging 6 full yards per carry, in the first half Deebo set a SB record for WRs running the ball and Mostert was playing well. So what do we decide to do. We stopped doing that and forced our QB to do things he was not able to do. Fear causes us to do things that dont make sense. This made no sense.
Listen, im just a fan at the end if the day and i have been wrong just as much as i have right. Can i be totally wrong here? Sure. But its just a fans opinion (with commentators who have played the game having similar thoughts), who thinks that to stop doing not only what has worked so well all year but also abandoning how our very team is defined, simply does not work.
We dont need a new coach or even another QB (IF you are going to call a certain game plan consistently), but what is needed is accountability by our coach, who is our leader, that yes he messed up. Honestly id be so impressed with that type of statement and leadership I could much easier move on from this loss. Coach John H could not do this because of his ego. If Kyle cant for the same reason I fear we are doomed to a similar fate as what happened from 2012-2014. But....thats just one fan's opinion and a fan that will always be a fan of this Team.
Loosing this game is heartbreaking and will be hard to get over. But thats because we are all so invested. I feel i am particularly invested and was invested hard this year. I have Cystic Fibrosis end stage as well as Stage 4 Colon Cancer and my prognosis is like 3-4 years at best. Im fearful. I really wanted to see my 49ers win another SB before I pass. And i was very tearful after this game in that i was thinking it is not going to happen now. But its been a couple days now and I honestly dont feel our window has totally closed. IF and its a big IF, if we handle this right, with the leadership via accountability like i stated we need to hear from Kyle, and the coach and players can learn and grow, i feel we have the pieces in place to still make another run. With the above and the right decisions this offseason with our draft and FA, we can rise above this. And for me there is this new drug called Trikafta which may buy me some more time. Its all doable. I am forever Faithful.
Blessings all.

Looks like some people may be hated more than Jed York. I didn't think it could be done.

Sorry to hear about your situation SanFranDan. That's quite the battle you are facing and very difficult both physically and mentally I can imagine. I hope the Niners can win one for you! If it doesn't happen, remember that family and those closest to you are the ones that matter the most. As hard as it is to see sometimes, especially when we are as vested in our team as we are, it is just a game.

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:

Looks like some people may be hated more than Jed York. I didn't think it could be done.

It's so sad that people are bashing shanahan left and right when he was the reason we're out of the dark ages and Super Bowl contenders.

Originally posted by SanFranDan21:

I have so much to say so please stay with me....to start I am seeing two polar opposite sided reactions here in which i dont agree with either of them. First, anyone saying we need to move on from Kyle is overreacting. Yep, he messed up in the SB. He overthought things and was so worried about the other team it caused him to abandon what has made him so successful this year. He is a good coach but just messed up this one game. Granted. It was the SB. Makes it worse. But he is the best coach we have had in a long time.
Second, we need to hold people accountable despite loving them. These players make millions and its their 'profession'. In any profession, if in your job you really perform poorly, you will be pulled aside and talked to and expected to learn and improve. Same goes for coaches and players. Kyle messed up. Lynch and Jed, in a positive constructive way need to talk to Kyle about what went wrong. And this talk needs to happen with Jimmy G as well.
Jimmy G is an average game manager at best. This is not a diss. To be at the NFL level and be a game manager to me is actually good. Its not great and its not 'franchise' level play, but with how this team was put together it wasnt needed either. However we do need to be consistent, and there is my concern here. With the game tied at 10, having your timeouts with almost 2 minutes left, you must try to score. You must have that killer mentality and for a reason our coach didnt. That reason was the lack of consistency with the QB. After the game our very own coach stated he was comfortable being tied at 10 going into the half which is how he explains his play calling. When i heard that my heart sank. You simply can not win with that mindset going up vs a team that can put points up fast. You cant win by having the other team dictate your calls. And really what message do you think that sent to our players? What do tou think Kittle or Deebo (who set a record for wr in rushing and yet was not in our plays in the second half), or to Sanders and or defense? It tells them rhe coach is not confident in them. Its bad.
So it's obvious how the coach evaluated Jimmy G. And being honest yes, he played very poorly when it mattered most. Some talk about how he played in the first 3 quarters and how good it was. It looked good with the stats. Ut most of his yards were YAC yards. In reality he was throwing for an average of 4.7 yards per throw, and then our wrs expanded on after the catch to their credit. Most of the time he was a single read qb who threw lots of checkdowns. He was raddled the who game. A statue in the pocket. This is just who Jimmy G is, good and bad. Can the kid get better, calm down emotionally and improve? I really hope so. But if you are going to stick with him and expect to win, you must playcall a certain type of game designed around his limitations. And we did that all season long by creating a creative run game with tons of motion and trick zone runs and high percentage medium range passes and short passes thst allowed all those YAC yards. Can we win with this QB? Yes. But you have to call the right game in the right system to make it work. A QB like this can have a onevin awhile very good game such as vs the Saints and Cards, BUT wont deliver this type of result consistently. When he is focused and calmed down he is an average game manager and in this system i have no problem with that at all. Because we can wn with that, as we have all year.
Yes Jimmy played poorly. Because we abandoned the style of game that hides his weaknesses and highlights his strengths. That is what cost us this game. Kyle for some reason abandoned what has worked all year and asked Jimmy G to do things that dont play to what he can actually do.
Now that is just truth. You dont have to agree with or like it. And no i am not even saying we need to fire our coach. Thats silly. However IF you are going to keep this QB you must stick with the plan he can actually work with. If you are not going to then get a different QB. Go get Ryan Tannihill who is a bit better of a QB to be honest. However to win you dont even need to change QBs. You must however not allow yourself to once again overthink things and abandon what has worked all year. Kyle got freaked out, coached out of fear (which he practically eluded to after the game as he explained his actions before the half), and it resulted in overthinking, trying to protect a lead as opposed to expand it, went conservative, and it cost us a championship.
So what would help make this a bit more...idk, digestable? Honestly, if Kyle came out and simply stated that he made some mistakes, that he promises to take them to heart and learn from them, and said he will grow and lesrn from this and move forward. That type of self accountability is leadership to me. Failure doesnt define us its how we react to it. My biggest fear here is that he feels he didnt nothing at all wrong, refuses to acknowledge mistakes, and keeps doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result. Saying something like "We just failed to execute " to me is a cop out and deflects the blame on the players. Some players played poorly. Yes. But
I dont blame our defense. How much can we ask of them? They were not given a breather for god sake in the 4th because our offense could not get first downs. We were averaging 6 full yards per carry, in the first half Deebo set a SB record for WRs running the ball and Mostert was playing well. So what do we decide to do. We stopped doing that and forced our QB to do things he was not able to do. Fear causes us to do things that dont make sense. This made no sense.
Listen, im just a fan at the end if the day and i have been wrong just as much as i have right. Can i be totally wrong here? Sure. But its just a fans opinion (with commentators who have played the game having similar thoughts), who thinks that to stop doing not only what has worked so well all year but also abandoning how our very team is defined, simply does not work.
We dont need a new coach or even another QB (IF you are going to call a certain game plan consistently), but what is needed is accountability by our coach, who is our leader, that yes he messed up. Honestly id be so impressed with that type of statement and leadership I could much easier move on from this loss. Coach John H could not do this because of his ego. If Kyle cant for the same reason I fear we are doomed to a similar fate as what happened from 2012-2014. But....thats just one fan's opinion and a fan that will always be a fan of this Team.
Loosing this game is heartbreaking and will be hard to get over. But thats because we are all so invested. I feel i am particularly invested and was invested hard this year. I have Cystic Fibrosis end stage as well as Stage 4 Colon Cancer and my prognosis is like 3-4 years at best. Im fearful. I really wanted to see my 49ers win another SB before I pass. And i was very tearful after this game in that i was thinking it is not going to happen now. But its been a couple days now and I honestly dont feel our window has totally closed. IF and its a big IF, if we handle this right, with the leadership via accountability like i stated we need to hear from Kyle, and the coach and players can learn and grow, i feel we have the pieces in place to still make another run. With the above and the right decisions this offseason with our draft and FA, we can rise above this. And for me there is this new drug called Trikafta which may buy me some more time. Its all doable. I am forever Faithful.
Blessings all.

They will be back soon. Hang in there buddy, hopefully you will see multiple SB victories for the 49ers. They have good people in place.

Originally posted by Sculbers:

Originally posted by LifelongNiner:
Looks like some people may be hated more than Jed York. I didn't think it could be done.

It's so sad that people are bashing shanahan left and right when he was the reason we're out of the dark ages and Super Bowl contenders.

Going by the threads that are getting bumped the most frequently, the blame is on Shanny first and Jimmy second. To me it's OK if those guys shoulder the blame for this loss. For people to take it to the next level and say Shanny sucks or we will never get a trophy with him, that's plain stupid, he's out-schemed almost every coach he's gone up against this year. As far as Jimmy goes, he has only been a starter for so long in the league. We will know how good he can be soon. Its not fair to dub him Alex Smith quite yet. We should have a better idea of his ceiling by the end of next season.