Week 8: Thoughts after re-watching game...

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Great! Like the succinct analysis.


So where's your mid season vid, man?

Originally posted by Marvin49:
1) Gameplan: I'm not saying its on the same level...not by a longshot, but I'm kinda starting to think that the run game being employed here by Harbaugh/Roman is similar to the WCO (I know they actually run the WCO...I'm just referring to the innovation aspect). Its unconventional. Its not just a "run into a brick wall" scheme. There is nuance to it. There is trickery. They are looking to exploit defenses. The idea behind it is very similar to the Walsh passing O, but its all done on the ground. Again, I'm not saying its the same, but its the most interesting running game I've ever seen.

2) Gameplan II: While I love the creative way they are trying to move the ball...sometimes they try to get a bit TOO creative. The reverse where Ginn was actually running in the wrong direction is a questionable play. LOL!! There were several times where they try to get to the edge and they get 5 yard losses. Its possible that we will have to live with these plays to get the reast, but I'm just saying there is always 1 or 2 times a game that I am left shaking my head.

3) Gore: I take back everything I said early on. Me dumb. Gore is still really good. He's not 100% the player he was in his first few years, but nobody is. He is still a franchise back. ;-) I LOVE being wrong on this one.

4) Alex/Crabtree: GRRRRRR.....SOOOOOOOOOO close. It seems that Alex can hit Vernon or Delanie almost anywhere on the field, but he just can't connect with Crabtree when he's open. There were AT LEAST 2 times that it's a HUGE completion or a TD if Alex can get the ball there. In fairness, he had a guy in his face on one....but still. My hope is that they can work that out becaue Crabtree is DEFINITELY getting open.

5) Bowman/Aldon/Brooks: All still studs.

6) Foot off the gas: This one has me concerned. I know that Harbaugh won't take his foot off, but the team really came out flat in the second half. The reason this concerns me is that its very possible this team could have nothing but playoff positioning to play for in the not so distant future. They need to keep playing, keep getting better, and do anything in their power to stay out of Lambeau in January.

7) O-Line: REALLY improving with every game. Playing well in the run and the pass. No more unblocked defenders. Alex actually getting time adn Gore getting holes to run through. Its looking like those 3 first rounders weren't a waste afterall.

8) Miller: Moran Norris? You're done. Miller ain't coming out of the game. Had several blocks to spring Frank and is a threat to do so much more. Simply a MUCH more dynamic player than Norris.

9) Staley/Sopoaga Receptions: NICE. Never saw that coming. Not only were they good plays, but they give defenses even MORE to worry about.

10) 6-1: Holy sh*t.

Great read, as always.

I, too, had semi-given up on Gore earlier. I was completely wrong, I'm happy to say.

Your take on the O-line is right on. I remember one false start on Boone, and that's it. No other presnap penalties.

Its really fun watching the run game now--much more creative.

Still room for improvement. This team of players and coaches has only been together for a short time. There's alot more success on the horizon! IMHO.

Thanks for the post.

Originally posted by ninertico:
Great! Like the succinct analysis.


So where's your mid season vid, man?

LOL....I just did one before the bye.

Originally posted by Marvin49:
LOL....I just did one before the bye.

Doh!!!!! I feel brilliant!!!

Ohhhhh, that one. Cool! Gave you props and posted it on my wall!

Keep 'em coming, man. You got a knack for 'em.

Originally posted by Marvin49:
1) Gameplan: I'm not saying its on the same level...not by a longshot, but I'm kinda starting to think that the run game being employed here by Harbaugh/Roman is similar to the WCO (I know they actually run the WCO...I'm just referring to the innovation aspect). Its unconventional. Its not just a "run into a brick wall" scheme. There is nuance to it. There is trickery. They are looking to exploit defenses. The idea behind it is very similar to the Walsh passing O, but its all done on the ground. Again, I'm not saying its the same, but its the most interesting running game I've ever seen.

2) Gameplan II: While I love the creative way they are trying to move the ball...sometimes they try to get a bit TOO creative. The reverse where Ginn was actually running in the wrong direction is a questionable play. LOL!! There were several times where they try to get to the edge and they get 5 yard losses. Its possible that we will have to live with these plays to get the reast, but I'm just saying there is always 1 or 2 times a game that I am left shaking my head.

3) Gore: I take back everything I said early on. Me dumb. Gore is still really good. He's not 100% the player he was in his first few years, but nobody is. He is still a franchise back. ;-) I LOVE being wrong on this one.

4) Alex/Crabtree: GRRRRRR.....SOOOOOOOOOO close. It seems that Alex can hit Vernon or Delanie almost anywhere on the field, but he just can't connect with Crabtree when he's open. There were AT LEAST 2 times that it's a HUGE completion or a TD if Alex can get the ball there. In fairness, he had a guy in his face on one....but still. My hope is that they can work that out becaue Crabtree is DEFINITELY getting open.

5) Bowman/Aldon/Brooks: All still studs.

6) Foot off the gas: This one has me concerned. I know that Harbaugh won't take his foot off, but the team really came out flat in the second half. The reason this concerns me is that its very possible this team could have nothing but playoff positioning to play for in the not so distant future. They need to keep playing, keep getting better, and do anything in their power to stay out of Lambeau in January.

7) O-Line: REALLY improving with every game. Playing well in the run and the pass. No more unblocked defenders. Alex actually getting time adn Gore getting holes to run through. Its looking like those 3 first rounders weren't a waste afterall.

8) Miller: Moran Norris? You're done. Miller ain't coming out of the game. Had several blocks to spring Frank and is a threat to do so much more. Simply a MUCH more dynamic player than Norris.

9) Staley/Sopoaga Receptions: NICE. Never saw that coming. Not only were they good plays, but they give defenses even MORE to worry about.

10) 6-1: Holy sh*t.

Great analysis! Can you re-post it in this thread so these other fans can see what honest analysis is.

www.49erswebzone.com/forum/niners/159812-passing-game-develop-time-playoffs/page5/

I stand by what i said about Gore early, he definetly is on the decline and has noticeable lost a step maybe two. His lane is opening up huge holes anyone could run through. Gore is good but he is still not the back he was 2 years ago.

You may have done one right before the bye, but they're good enough to warrant a new one every other day :P

I'm VERY impressed with the oline this season. First two weeks were rocky but after that they've gotten better and better with each game. I actually saw Alex get time to step up while passing It was incredible!

Originally posted by Whomeam:
You may have done one right before the bye, but they're good enough to warrant a new one every other day :P

I'm VERY impressed with the oline this season. First two weeks were rocky but after that they've gotten better and better with each game. I actually saw Alex get time to step up while passing It was incredible!

Originally posted by Marvin49:
1) Gameplan: I'm not saying its on the same level...not by a longshot, but I'm kinda starting to think that the run game being employed here by Harbaugh/Roman is similar to the WCO (I know they actually run the WCO...I'm just referring to the innovation aspect). Its unconventional. Its not just a "run into a brick wall" scheme. There is nuance to it. There is trickery. They are looking to exploit defenses. The idea behind it is very similar to the Walsh passing O, but its all done on the ground. Again, I'm not saying its the same, but its the most interesting running game I've ever seen.

2) Gameplan II: While I love the creative way they are trying to move the ball...sometimes they try to get a bit TOO creative. The reverse where Ginn was actually running in the wrong direction is a questionable play. LOL!! There were several times where they try to get to the edge and they get 5 yard losses. Its possible that we will have to live with these plays to get the reast, but I'm just saying there is always 1 or 2 times a game that I am left shaking my head.

1.) It's the most creative rushing attack I think I've ever seen. Very innovative and "outside of the box" thinking. World's away from the Singleberry "we're gonna smash 'em in da mouf" approach. There was a lot of talk this week about what is, and what isn't, the real West Coast Offense. Putting all that aside, I think what you're seeing from the 49ers today is very Walshian. It's creative, it's innovative, it's ahead of the pack, it makes good use of your strengths, it attacks the defense and forces them to adapt to what you're doing.

2.) Any time you get creative on the football field, you risk failure. Not everything you try is gonna work. We all cheer when Sopoaga catches a pass, but if he tips it and it gets intercepted, everyone will say they were stupid for trying. Personally, I'm willing to accept some risk for this kind of innovation. He who dares, wins.

Originally posted by nvchamp9ers:
I stand by what i said about Gore early, he definetly is on the decline and has noticeable lost a step maybe two. His lane is opening up huge holes anyone could run through. Gore is good but he is still not the back he was 2 years ago.

I agree, he has lost a step but he is still better then most other backs. Running backs dont last long in this league

Biggest thing that sticks out to me was Cribbs' touchdown which should of NEVER happened. It's fine that he caught the ball, but it looked to me like the CB (forgot who it was but he had Cribbs within arm's reach) and Goldson just stopped running when it would have been an easy tackle. My guess is they assumed that he was out of bounds. Either way is was disheartening to see such lack of focus for a defense that's normally plays lights out.

Final should have been 20-3, but I'll take the dub just the same.

Originally posted by overthemiddle:
I agree, he has lost a step but he is still better then most other backs. Running backs dont last long in this league

Yea, he's lighting it up but I think he needs to be spelled more. Dare I say, but pretty soon we'll have to start getting ready for a playoff run and we need Gore fresh.