Harbaugh Calls Smith "Game Manager"

Originally posted by DonnieDarko:

Originally posted by susweel:
Because thats all he can ever be.

i thought you said you were done with all the alex smith talk??

That was for yesterday, today is a new day.

Originally posted by Joecool:
What's wrong with calling Smith a game manager? We should be happy since this is an upgrade from the previous years of suck play at QB.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Crabtree, Edwards, Vernon Davis. His weapons aren't as bad as you guys are making it out to be. Unfortunately health isn't there right now. Still good quarterbacks elevate receivers. We saw that with Romo. All of his receivers went down and he beats us with some guy they got from a reality TV show. Across the board with us it seems like if they're not a top 10 pick they have no expectations whatsoever.

Your correct. Manning is a perfect example of how a QB makes a big difference. Manning falls and the Colt's are in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes and probably would lose to the 49ers at this point. People say Manning would lose if he had the 49er offensive line and the talent that Alex has around him. I have a hard time believing this. Switch out Alex for Manning and the Colt's get Andrew Luck next year and the 49ers go far in the play-offs. IMO

Originally posted by Niner4ever:
Davis is a beast but this league is about Super Star Receivers, not Super Star TE's.

Crabtree is not a Star Receiver, he's been hurt, and is learning the league.

Edwards was the go to player in Cleveland but is hurt.

Romo has had Miles Austin and Jason Witten eventhough Bryant was hurt last week.

Austin went out, and he still does his thing to win the game. I can list 15 scenarios off the top of my head about quarterbacks losing their receiver and then the next guy steps up. See Rivers last year, see how Brady elevated Branch, McNabb got to 3 NFC Title games with complete garbage at receiver. TO goes down no problem at all. Carson Palmer last year played his best football after Johnson and TO went down.

The league is not about super star receivers, it's about super star quarterbacks. That's why Manning goes down and all of the sudden that juggarnaut turns into the worse team in football. I told you guys for years just how garbage that offensive line really was, and what would happen if Peyton got hurt.

Being good at "game management" are what all elite QBs do.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Austin went out, and he still does his thing to win the game. I can list 15 scenarios off the top of my head about quarterbacks losing their receiver and then the next guy steps up. See Rivers last year, see how Brady elevated Branch, McNabb got to 3 NFC Title games with complete garbage at receiver. TO goes down no problem at all. Carson Palmer last year played his best football after Johnson and TO went down.

The league is not about super star receivers, it's about super star quarterbacks. That's why Manning goes down and all of the sudden that juggarnaut turns into the worse team in football. I told you guys for years just how garbage that offensive line really was, and what would happen if Peyton got hurt.

All those examples you listed - they had guys on the bench with speed - they had drafted or came across and were waiting. The 49ers have never put any emphasis on speed in the receiving core - NONE zilch - again this is the result of a horrible decision's by defensive minded coaches with a horrible crap ass front office.

Alex is not Peyton - or Carson but he is not crap and is not the cause of the problems with the offense.

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Austin went out, and he still does his thing to win the game. I can list 15 scenarios off the top of my head about quarterbacks losing their receiver and then the next guy steps up. See Rivers last year, see how Brady elevated Branch, McNabb got to 3 NFC Title games with complete garbage at receiver. TO goes down no problem at all. Carson Palmer last year played his best football after Johnson and TO went down.

The league is not about super star receivers, it's about super star quarterbacks. That's why Manning goes down and all of the sudden that juggarnaut turns into the worse team in football. I told you guys for years just how garbage that offensive line really was, and what would happen if Peyton got hurt.

Yes, that's obvious that the league is about Super Star QB's. And, the league is about Super Star Receivers, Running backs as well, not super star tightends. Am I right?

All those that you mentioned have been in a system where if a guy goes down the next in line knows what to do and steps in.

All those that you mentioned with the exception of Brady, have not won a Superbowl or have they?
And, if I may add Brady had Troy Brown who at the time was thought of as a star receiver in the league.

Originally posted by 1stAndGoal49ers:

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Crabtree, Edwards, Vernon Davis. His weapons aren't as bad as you guys are making it out to be. Unfortunately health isn't there right now. Still good quarterbacks elevate receivers. We saw that with Romo. All of his receivers went down and he beats us with some guy they got from a reality TV show. Across the board with us it seems like if they're not a top 10 pick they have no expectations whatsoever.

Your correct. Manning is a perfect example of how a QB makes a big difference. Manning falls and the Colt's are in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes and probably would lose to the 49ers at this point. People say Manning would lose if he had the 49er offensive line and the talent that Alex has around him. I have a hard time believing this. Switch out Alex for Manning and the Colt's get Andrew Luck next year and the 49ers go far in the play-offs. IMO

HELL no...


I think you are underestimating exactly how bad Collins is at this point in his career, as well as how bad curtis painter is. The colts have something the 49ers don't have - ESTABLISHED weapons and an O-line. If you put Alex on the colts they certainly wouldn't be as good as they are with Manning, but they would be no where near as bad as they are right now.

See, people saying this kinds of things leads me to believe they haven't even watched the Colts play this year....or a football game ever in their life at all for that matter.

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
"I thought Alex played extremely well," 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh said. "He really managed the game well."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/09/25/11/Smith-49ers-offense-save-best-for-4th-qu/l_49ers.html?full_args=09/25/11/Smith-49ers-offense-save-best-for-4th-qu/l_49ers&blockID=567276&feedID=5936

Nothing we didn't already know, but at least Harbaugh has made it official. Pretty much Harbaugh doesnt totally trust Smith and is only asking him to do just enough not to cost the team the game. For a once proud, QB-driven franchise, congratulations Niners faithful, we have Trent Dilfer 2.0 running the show!

Now before you reply with any additional Alexcuses or offer any more Har-pologies, take a moment to answer the following questions:

1) Were the Niners the only team to experience an abbreviated off season?
2) Are the Niners the only team with a new head coach and/or offensive system?
3) Are the Niners the only team with bad O-line play?
4) Are the Niners the only team struggling to run the ball?
5) Are the Niners the only team starting a rookie QB? (oops, my mistake, Alex Smith is in year 7!)

Regardless, Smith's ceiling is being a "game manager", a role he is clearly comfortable with--be a good, obedient drone, run the play, dont improvise, dont take any chances, and whenever possible either throw the ball to the RB in the flat, or no more than 10 yards in the air to any other receiver.

Maybe Harbaugh's not challenging him because he knows this is all Smith will ever be. Yes, the Niners are 2-1, but the offense is obviously sorely lacking. And it certainly is from lack of trying.

Blake_Fever

How did you get all of that b******t from Harbaugh saying Smith "managed the game well"? Tom Brady manages games well too. So f**king what? I don't know what Harbaugh thinks of Smith. I don't know if he trusts him or not. But this quote you provide doesn't give any indication that Harbaugh doesn't trust Smith. You are free to your opinions, but don't come here and try to make rediculous statements like "Harbaugh doesn't trust Smith" and that's why the play calling is conservative and base your claim on a quote like this. I swear the world is filled with 90% idiots.

I don't get why we have posts like this the day after a win.

Originally posted by verb1der:
Being good at "game management" are what all elite QBs do.

This!

Harbaugh was complimenting Smith. That's it. Original poster is on crack.

Originally posted by blm7754:

Originally posted by Blake_Fever:
"I thought Alex played extremely well," 49ers coach Jim Harbaugh said. "He really managed the game well."

http://www.csnbayarea.com/09/25/11/Smith-49ers-offense-save-best-for-4th-qu/l_49ers.html?full_args=09/25/11/Smith-49ers-offense-save-best-for-4th-qu/l_49ers&blockID=567276&feedID=5936

Nothing we didn't already know, but at least Harbaugh has made it official. Pretty much Harbaugh doesnt totally trust Smith and is only asking him to do just enough not to cost the team the game. For a once proud, QB-driven franchise, congratulations Niners faithful, we have Trent Dilfer 2.0 running the show!

Now before you reply with any additional Alexcuses or offer any more Har-pologies, take a moment to answer the following questions:

1) Were the Niners the only team to experience an abbreviated off season?
2) Are the Niners the only team with a new head coach and/or offensive system?
3) Are the Niners the only team with bad O-line play?
4) Are the Niners the only team struggling to run the ball?
5) Are the Niners the only team starting a rookie QB? (oops, my mistake, Alex Smith is in year 7!)

Regardless, Smith's ceiling is being a "game manager", a role he is clearly comfortable with--be a good, obedient drone, run the play, dont improvise, dont take any chances, and whenever possible either throw the ball to the RB in the flat, or no more than 10 yards in the air to any other receiver.

Maybe Harbaugh's not challenging him because he knows this is all Smith will ever be. Yes, the Niners are 2-1, but the offense is obviously sorely lacking. And it certainly is from lack of trying.

Blake_Fever

How did you get all of that b******t from Harbaugh saying Smith "managed the game well"? Tom Brady manages games well too. So f**king what? I don't what Harbaugh thinks of Smith. I don't know if he trusts him or not. But this quote you provide doesn't give any indication that Harbaugh doesn't trust Smith. You are free to your opinions, but don't come here and try to make rediculous statements like "Harbaugh doesn't trust Smith" and that's why the play calling is conservative and base your claim on a quote like this. I swear the world is filled with 90% idiots.

I don't get why we have posts like this the day after a win.

Because the world is a pyramid, and there are more people on the bottom than there are at the top.

Originally posted by 1stAndGoal49ers:
Your correct. Manning is a perfect example of how a QB makes a big difference. Manning falls and the Colt's are in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes and probably would lose to the 49ers at this point. People say Manning would lose if he had the 49er offensive line and the talent that Alex has around him. I have a hard time believing this. Switch out Alex for Manning and the Colt's get Andrew Luck next year and the 49ers go far in the play-offs. IMO

People, no one is saying Alex is a Manning or a Montana or a Brady. Those guys are 1 every generation. But, if he is put in the right situation and given the weapons he can win and produce. He has lost 7 years of NFL life in instability.

Originally posted by blm7754:
This!

Harbaugh was complimenting Smith. That's it. Original poster is on crack.

Someone give that man a Cookie - Double Stuffed Oreo!

Originally posted by norcal49er864:
HELL no...


I think you are underestimating exactly how bad Collins is at this point in his career, as well as how bad curtis painter is. The colts have something the 49ers don't have - ESTABLISHED weapons and an O-line. If you put Alex on the colts they certainly wouldn't be as good as they are with Manning, but they would be no where near as bad as they are right now.

See, people saying this kinds of things leads me to believe they haven't even watched the Colts play this year....or a football game ever in their life at all for that matter.

Looking at this post I don't you ever watched a Colts game in your lifetime. No quarterback can duplicate what Peyton does on the field. You just don't understand the presnap reads he does at the line of scrimmage.

Their O line is trash, and has been trash for years. Just look at their rushing attack over the past 4 years.

Originally posted by norcal49er864:

Originally posted by 1stAndGoal49ers:

Originally posted by tjd808185:
Crabtree, Edwards, Vernon Davis. His weapons aren't as bad as you guys are making it out to be. Unfortunately health isn't there right now. Still good quarterbacks elevate receivers. We saw that with Romo. All of his receivers went down and he beats us with some guy they got from a reality TV show. Across the board with us it seems like if they're not a top 10 pick they have no expectations whatsoever.

Your correct. Manning is a perfect example of how a QB makes a big difference. Manning falls and the Colt's are in the Andrew Luck sweepstakes and probably would lose to the 49ers at this point. People say Manning would lose if he had the 49er offensive line and the talent that Alex has around him. I have a hard time believing this. Switch out Alex for Manning and the Colt's get Andrew Luck next year and the 49ers go far in the play-offs. IMO

HELL no...


I think you are underestimating exactly how bad Collins is at this point in his career, as well as how bad curtis painter is. The colts have something the 49ers don't have - ESTABLISHED weapons and an O-line. If you put Alex on the colts they certainly wouldn't be as good as they are with Manning, but they would be no where near as bad as they are right now.

See, people saying this kinds of things leads me to believe they haven't even watched the Colts play this year....or a football game ever in their life at all for that matter.

WOW! Alex supporters are so touchy.

Actually I don't underestimate how bad these two guys are. But I do think you underestimate how bad Alex is at this point in his career.