49ers' Harbaugh breaks from NFL form

Originally posted by OnTheClock:
Not saying you'd do this, but I could see a progression like this -- from some fans -- if our season went this way:

1-0 -- "That's not saying much."
2-0 -- "That's not saying much."
3-0 -- "It was Cincy. Still not saying much."
3-1 -- "I told you it wasn't saying much."
4-1 -- "Well, it's too early."
4-2 -- "See I told you it's still too early."
5-2 -- "We're not even halfway through the season yet."
5-3 -- "See? I'm not getting my hopes up."
6-3 -- "I'm hopeful."
7-3 -- "We'll see what happens next week."
7-4 -- "Watch us collapse. This team isn't that good."
8-4 -- "We got lucky."
9-4 -- "Well, gotta give credit, our first winning season in about a decade."
9-5 -- " We'll be one and done in the playoffs."
9-6 -- "We lost to THAT crap? Yeah, told you we're not going anywhere."
10-6 -- "Alex Smith still sucks and we'll lose in the playoffs. "

This made me LOL at how accurately you've forecasted the hate!!

Originally posted by redrathman:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by susweel:
Dont mean s**t if he doesn't win.

1-0 so far

That's not saying much.

Its all you can say at this point

After watching the game, more can be said.

Good thing you're not jumping to early conclusions or anything.

Joe's never gonna be able to live that one down.

Originally posted by hofer36:

Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:

Originally posted by HessianDud:
maverick

Who's Iceman and Goose?

you dont want a know--it was just some gay 3 way

Haha, I knew a few guys and gals from Hinton, Alberta Canada aand that was every single one of their favorite movie of all times,lol

Originally posted by Joecool:
That has nothing to do with how our offense looked vs their defense. That is what I am talking about. I think our defense faired well in the 2nd half aside from the missed tackle resulting in a TD on that pass, but Harbaugh did nothing to help the defense.

I disagree with this. When he pulled the 3 points off the board, he ran it 3 straight times. I know, I know....annoying. But, it took about 2 more minutes off the clock. This was towards the end of the game, with about 6 minutes left. If you recall, he even let the clock tick down and we got the delay of game (which Carrol declined lol...then the false start, which he declined again...I love this rivalry, they really, really dislike eachother).

But back to the point: Harbaugh did exactly what he needed to do to help the Defense, and that was to run time off. That drive took 9:01 minutes. 9 minutes! That's the type of time-killing, game-winning, end-of-game drive that we haven't had in a loooooong time.

Now, the defense did give up a TD right after that, but c'mon, the way the game was going, and the way our defense had been playing, who would've predicted us giving up that big play so quickly to them at that time....He played it right. He took 9 minutes off the clock, put his team up by two scores, and gave the ball to the dominating defense with less than 6 minutes left to go.

I think he did plenty.

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by Joecool:
That has nothing to do with how our offense looked vs their defense. That is what I am talking about. I think our defense faired well in the 2nd half aside from the missed tackle resulting in a TD on that pass, but Harbaugh did nothing to help the defense.

I disagree with this. When he pulled the 3 points off the board, he ran it 3 straight times. I know, I know....annoying. But, it took about 2 more minutes off the clock. This was towards the end of the game, with about 6 minutes left. If you recall, he even let the clock tick down and we got the delay of game (which Carrol declined lol...then the false start, which he declined again...I love this rivalry, they really, really dislike eachother).

But back to the point: Harbaugh did exactly what he needed to do to help the Defense, and that was to run time off. That drive took 9:01 minutes. 9 minutes! That's the type of time-killing, game-winning, end-of-game drive that we haven't had in a loooooong time.

Now, the defense did give up a TD right after that, but c'mon, the way the game was going, and the way our defense had been playing, who would've predicted us giving up that big play so quickly to them at that time....He played it right. He took 9 minutes off the clock, put his team up by two scores, and gave the ball to the dominating defense with less than 6 minutes left to go.

I think he did plenty.

We were THAT close to the TD and we run it 3 straight times. I don't call that helping the defense. He could have helped it more by at least trying to score. His plan of running it three straight times did not work because SEA closed the score to 17-19 after that with 4 minutes to play. Not sure how that helps a defense: not going for TD's when it is right there.

Originally posted by susweel:
Dont mean s**t if he doesn't win.

Are you ever happy? My god, every single thread it's always negative with you. Why even bother being a fan?

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by Joecool:
That has nothing to do with how our offense looked vs their defense. That is what I am talking about. I think our defense faired well in the 2nd half aside from the missed tackle resulting in a TD on that pass, but Harbaugh did nothing to help the defense.

I disagree with this. When he pulled the 3 points off the board, he ran it 3 straight times. I know, I know....annoying. But, it took about 2 more minutes off the clock. This was towards the end of the game, with about 6 minutes left. If you recall, he even let the clock tick down and we got the delay of game (which Carrol declined lol...then the false start, which he declined again...I love this rivalry, they really, really dislike eachother).

But back to the point: Harbaugh did exactly what he needed to do to help the Defense, and that was to run time off. That drive took 9:01 minutes. 9 minutes! That's the type of time-killing, game-winning, end-of-game drive that we haven't had in a loooooong time.

Now, the defense did give up a TD right after that, but c'mon, the way the game was going, and the way our defense had been playing, who would've predicted us giving up that big play so quickly to them at that time....He played it right. He took 9 minutes off the clock, put his team up by two scores, and gave the ball to the dominating defense with less than 6 minutes left to go.

I think he did plenty.

We were THAT close to the TD and we run it 3 straight times. To run the clock out. I don't call that helping the defense. 9 minute drive, 2 of the minutes were because he ran the ball 3 straight times. I bet Fangio was ecstatic that he had a two score lead with less than 6 minutes on the clock considering the way his defense was playing. He could have helped it more by at least trying to score. They did score. Three points. which made it a 2 score game. Again....Think about the Dallas game, when Romo fumbled on the 1.5 yard line. Had they gotten a field goal out of that drive, they would've probably won that game. His plan of running it three straight times did not work because SEA closed the score to 17-19 after that with 4 minutes to play. His plan did work. They scored a TD and we still had the lead. Not sure how that helps a defense: not going for TD's when it is right there. It helps the Defense because it gives us a Two Score Lead and even if Reggie Smith takes a rediculous angle, and they get a big play on us, we still have the lead.

See my response in the quote box.

Originally posted by unst4bl3:
Nice, I hope alex uses monday to look at film with Harbs, and tell him to open it up more. One player who needs to be there is CK, alex is one more endzone dive away from hurting another shoulder.

How can you not like Smith? Dude has BALLS!

Originally posted by Memphis9er:

Originally posted by redrathman:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by susweel:
Dont mean s**t if he doesn't win.

1-0 so far

That's not saying much.

Its all you can say at this point

After watching the game, more can be said.

Good thing you're not jumping to early conclusions or anything.

Joe's never gonna be able to live that one down.

Originally posted by genus49:

Originally posted by susweel:
Dont mean s**t if he doesn't win.

Are you ever happy? My god, every single thread it's always negative with you. Why even bother being a fan?

how is that being negative ??

All I said is none of this matters if he doesnt win.

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by Joecool:
That has nothing to do with how our offense looked vs their defense. That is what I am talking about. I think our defense faired well in the 2nd half aside from the missed tackle resulting in a TD on that pass, but Harbaugh did nothing to help the defense.

I disagree with this. When he pulled the 3 points off the board, he ran it 3 straight times. I know, I know....annoying. But, it took about 2 more minutes off the clock. This was towards the end of the game, with about 6 minutes left. If you recall, he even let the clock tick down and we got the delay of game (which Carrol declined lol...then the false start, which he declined again...I love this rivalry, they really, really dislike eachother).

But back to the point: Harbaugh did exactly what he needed to do to help the Defense, and that was to run time off. That drive took 9:01 minutes. 9 minutes! That's the type of time-killing, game-winning, end-of-game drive that we haven't had in a loooooong time.

Now, the defense did give up a TD right after that, but c'mon, the way the game was going, and the way our defense had been playing, who would've predicted us giving up that big play so quickly to them at that time....He played it right. He took 9 minutes off the clock, put his team up by two scores, and gave the ball to the dominating defense with less than 6 minutes left to go.

I think he did plenty.

We were THAT close to the TD and we run it 3 straight times. To run the clock out. I don't call that helping the defense. 9 minute drive, 2 of the minutes were because he ran the ball 3 straight times. I bet Fangio was ecstatic that he had a two score lead with less than 6 minutes on the clock considering the way his defense was playing. He could have helped it more by at least trying to score. They did score. Three points. which made it a 2 score game. Again....Think about the Dallas game, when Romo fumbled on the 1.5 yard line. Had they gotten a field goal out of that drive, they would've probably won that game. His plan of running it three straight times did not work because SEA closed the score to 17-19 after that with 4 minutes to play. His plan did work. They scored a TD and we still had the lead. Not sure how that helps a defense: not going for TD's when it is right there. It helps the Defense because it gives us a Two Score Lead and even if Reggie Smith takes a rediculous angle, and they get a big play on us, we still have the lead.

See my response in the quote box.

Like I said, it didn't help. SEA closed the gap to 17-19 and there was still 4 minutes remaining in the game. We didn't even try to punch it in the endzone. 0 effort to do so. THAT was not good game management.

Last time I checked when a team is down by 2 points and there is 4 minutes remaining, that's plenty of time for the team that's down.

Originally posted by redrathman:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by susweel:
Dont mean s**t if he doesn't win.

1-0 so far

That's not saying much.

Its all you can say at this point

After watching the game, more can be said.

Good thing you're not jumping to early conclusions or anything.

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:

Originally posted by LambdaChi49:

Originally posted by ninersrule4:
They looked like they typical 49ers of recent years.. if its not for Ginn we could be sitting on a loss here... Harbaugh gets a meh grade for me ... Looked like a nolan and sing team

We were up 19-17 before Ginn. So how would we be sitting on a loss?

I said we could have been.. chances are we would have been 3 and out and we would have given Seattle the ball back and all they needed was a FG

chances are.....you have NO IDEA what would have happened.

This. I bet when we were only up 19-17 you never said "Chances are Ted Ginn is going to score two consecutive special teams TDs to secure the win."

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by Lobo49er:

Originally posted by Joecool:
That has nothing to do with how our offense looked vs their defense. That is what I am talking about. I think our defense faired well in the 2nd half aside from the missed tackle resulting in a TD on that pass, but Harbaugh did nothing to help the defense.

I disagree with this. When he pulled the 3 points off the board, he ran it 3 straight times. I know, I know....annoying. But, it took about 2 more minutes off the clock. This was towards the end of the game, with about 6 minutes left. If you recall, he even let the clock tick down and we got the delay of game (which Carrol declined lol...then the false start, which he declined again...I love this rivalry, they really, really dislike eachother).

But back to the point: Harbaugh did exactly what he needed to do to help the Defense, and that was to run time off. That drive took 9:01 minutes. 9 minutes! That's the type of time-killing, game-winning, end-of-game drive that we haven't had in a loooooong time.

Now, the defense did give up a TD right after that, but c'mon, the way the game was going, and the way our defense had been playing, who would've predicted us giving up that big play so quickly to them at that time....He played it right. He took 9 minutes off the clock, put his team up by two scores, and gave the ball to the dominating defense with less than 6 minutes left to go.

I think he did plenty.

We were THAT close to the TD and we run it 3 straight times. To run the clock out. I don't call that helping the defense. 9 minute drive, 2 of the minutes were because he ran the ball 3 straight times. I bet Fangio was ecstatic that he had a two score lead with less than 6 minutes on the clock considering the way his defense was playing. He could have helped it more by at least trying to score. They did score. Three points. which made it a 2 score game. Again....Think about the Dallas game, when Romo fumbled on the 1.5 yard line. Had they gotten a field goal out of that drive, they would've probably won that game. His plan of running it three straight times did not work because SEA closed the score to 17-19 after that with 4 minutes to play. His plan did work. They scored a TD and we still had the lead. Not sure how that helps a defense: not going for TD's when it is right there. It helps the Defense because it gives us a Two Score Lead and even if Reggie Smith takes a rediculous angle, and they get a big play on us, we still have the lead.

See my response in the quote box.

Like I said, it didn't help. SEA closed the gap to 17-19 and there was still 4 minutes remaining in the game. We didn't even try to punch it in the endzone. 0 effort to do so. THAT was not good game management.

Last time I checked when a team is down by 2 points and there is 4 minutes remaining, that's plenty of time for the team that's down.

But that wasn't the situation when Harbaugh tried to score a TD by running it 3 straight times.

The situation was this: We were up by only one score and there was about 7 minutes on the clock.
First, should he have pulled the 3 points down? I think we both agree yes on this.
Second: How risky do you want to be? Why risk losing the chance for a high percentage FG that puts you up two scores? Why not take advantage of the three free downs and run 2 more minutes off the clock?

He did try and score a TD. Our OL failed to move the LOS. OH well. But we didn't turn it over, and we got up by two scores.

After that, SEA closed the gap...quickly. But you keep confusing the timeline.

Originally posted by Kilgore_Trout:
How can you not like Smith? Dude has BALLS!

I'm not hating on smith, I have been one of the lone smith homers around here for the last 2-3 years. I'm just saying, if he is getting hit that hard going into the endzone, and sooner or later anthony davis will revert to his oldself and get alex blown up.. His non injury days are numbered.