Originally posted by dtg_9er:
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
Good post. When Smith makes mistakes on his own his fans say things like "All QBs make stupid moves." Well Smith isn't going to make up for those mistakes with stellar performances so we are not as forgiving as those other QBs fans. The other mistakes and poor performances are arributed to bad WR, OL, and coaching.
Its annoying when Smith fans bash other 49ers players and coaches but if you bash Smith, "your not a true fan," and "you should support the team no matter what."
Oh the irony.
Most of we "Smith fans" do not bash other players without using specific instances, as opposed to "blank sucks." Most also admit that Smith has not lived up to his No. 1 status, but we see reasons other than lack of ability. Hope for Smith is alive in some fans, not in others. Our OLine has been rated at the bottom of the NFL year in and year out...are we suppose to say it doesn't matter? WRs running the wrong route or dropping passes doesn't matter? It's all just Smith? Come on now. We should be able to agree that the entire offense, short of Gore has been bad at times over the past eight years (most of the times).
Until VD learned to be a team guy he consistently did assinine things calling attention to himself. He doesn't do that any more and is one of the best TEs in the NFL. Why might that not happen with Smith? Rachal? Crabtree? They have a good offensive minded coach now and the addition of Edwards may be meaningful.
The fact that VD, Gore and Willis all support Smith means a great deal to me as a fan. You can say they are just carrying on the company line but they do have free will and they are stars...don't have to risk their credibility to carry water for the Yorks.
The fact that Harbaugh sees something in Smith means a great deal to me as a fan. If he is accurate and can turn Smith's career around won't that be wonderful? If not they have CK and can find others to compete for the job.
Yeah but the "instances" are exactly that, one moment, which does not reflect the whole story. I've heard people here say putting Rivers on our team last year wouldn't have made the playoffs and cited some "instances." Or that Bradford wasn't that great even though he was ROY. Or that Bradford succeeded because of the RAMS' superior team and coaching. All these "instances" to downgrade their abilities in order to make Smith look better.
We also see reasons other then Smith's lack of ability. We think he has all the talent to be a great QB. So did Jeff George and Scott Mitchell and other talented QBs. Matt Leionart is a good example. He sucked balls on a team Kurt Warner took to the Super Bowl. Leionart was more athletic and younger but he didn't have leadership, and a good work ethic. Those guys never amounted to anything because they didn't have one or more of the following: leadership, intelligence, pocket presence, accuracy during the game, durability. I beleive that Smith lacks leadership and pocket presence and accuracy in the game. He's a practice beast.
Yes the offense has problems. But what about when the QB holds the ball too long, wtf fumbles the ball, throws wtf interceptions, or misses a WR badly. What if the QB can't handle the pressure and doesn't have the moxy to play that position? You are right, short of Gore and VD, the offense has been bad, including Alex Smith. It goes both ways.When Smith does gets a pocket he does decent. But he still misses and throws interceptions. When things break down, he's at his worst. This is the problem.
VD turned it around in year three with the same s**tty coaches and team VD had. We are in year 7 with Smith. Time for Smith to "mature" or whatever and be more like VD....?
VD and Gore don't support Smith in the name of the company and Jed York bro. They are being good teammates. These guys say the same s**t about the camp trash as well. Its not cool to rip on your teammates.
Yes believe signing smith to come here and groom Kaepernick was a good idea. I don't believe he did it because he thinks Smith is a HOFer. We really don't know what he thinks, its all speculation. But if he though so highly of Smith why move up to draft Kaep and only give a 1 year deal?