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May 19, 2011 at 6:44 PM
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Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
May 19, 2011 at 6:59 PM
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Originally posted by global_nomad:
Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
He never had a coach with a clue about QB's. So this would be his best chance.
May 19, 2011 at 7:01 PM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:
Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
He never had a coach with a clue about QB's. So this would be his last chance.
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May 19, 2011 at 7:05 PM
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Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:
Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
He never had a coach with a clue about QB's. So this would be his last chance.
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I think most would agree either way.
[ Edited by OnTheClock on May 19, 2011 at 7:22 PM ]
May 19, 2011 at 7:05 PM
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Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:
Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
He never had a coach with a clue about QB's. So this would be his last chance.
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You could call it best chance or last chance. One of his best years was under Norv Turner. A guy with a clue about QB's. And Harbaugh is at least that good or even better. So I would expect the guy to respond. Ideally you would want 2 years under Harbaugh. Because that is what Alex needs. Stability. But he will get 1 and at least this guy knows QB's.
May 19, 2011 at 7:10 PM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:
Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
He never had a coach with a clue about QB's. So this would be his last chance.
fixed
You could call it best chance or last chance. One of his best years was under Norv Turner. A guy with a clue about QB's. And Harbaugh is at least that good or even better. So I would expect the guy to respond. Ideally you would want 2 years under Harbaugh. Because that is what Alex needs. Stability. But he will get 1 and at least this guy knows QB's.
You are right. I just think its hard to root for Alex when Kaeprnick seems to be Harbaugh's
chosen one. I think one year on the bench and one offseason with Harb and Kapernick will have the kind of success Josh Freeman shows 9-10 win seasons right away.
May 19, 2011 at 7:13 PM
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Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:
Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
He never had a coach with a clue about QB's. So this would be his last chance.
fixed
You could call it best chance or last chance. One of his best years was under Norv Turner. A guy with a clue about QB's. And Harbaugh is at least that good or even better. So I would expect the guy to respond. Ideally you would want 2 years under Harbaugh. Because that is what Alex needs. Stability. But he will get 1 and at least this guy knows QB's.
You are right. I just think its hard to root for Alex when Kaeprnick seems to be Harbaugh'schosen one. I think one year on the bench and one offseason with Harb and Kapernick will have the kind of success Josh Freeman shows 9-10 win seasons right away.
Kaepernick probably will be the future. But he has a really long way to go. He doesn't even take snaps from center and they ran the pistol offense. There is no guarantee he ever works out. I hope for the best. But we will see.
If Alex plays well and it's a big if IMO we will re sign him for longer.
May 19, 2011 at 7:22 PM
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Originally posted by PTulini:Quote:
Matt Barrows:
Vernon Davis, on KNBR w/ Tom Tolbert, called Jim Harbaugh a genius. "I look at him as a genius. Since I've been with the 49ers, I've never had an offensive head coach. So this is going to be great, especially for the offense."
Davis on Alex Smith: "I believe he will (succeed) because he's a hard worker, he's tough mentally and physically. And I say that because I've been here with Alex since Day 1. I know he can do it, he just has to come around. And I think this is going to be the year for him"
I like Alex as a player, and I'm pulling for him -- through the team -- because the team's success is greatly reliant on his play.
My perspective on Alex is: I think the guy gets zero credit for any of the good he does show, but at the same time, it is no secret that he hasn't played up to his bidding, even when taking into account the ways he's really been handcuffed since being drafted.
Still, over the past two seasons, in 22 games Alex has put up plenty respectable numbers, I'd say. Enough under the horrendous coaching staff to lead me to believe he has the best "chance" at least this year, than he ever has had before, to have a very successful season. His combined numbers over the past two seasons:
Avg. yards per game: 215 yards
Completion Percentage: 60%
Touchdowns: 32
QB Rating: 81.8
Really not so terrible considering most of this was under Sing/Raye.
May 19, 2011 at 8:20 PM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:
Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
He never had a coach with a clue about QB's. So this would be his last chance.
fixed
You could call it best chance or last chance. One of his best years was under Norv Turner. A guy with a clue about QB's. And Harbaugh is at least that good or even better. So I would expect the guy to respond. Ideally you would want 2 years under Harbaugh. Because that is what Alex needs. Stability. But he will get 1 and at least this guy knows QB's.
And there it is, the first Alexcuse of the Harbaugh era! Classic.
May 19, 2011 at 8:42 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by PTulini:Quote:
Matt Barrows:
Vernon Davis, on KNBR w/ Tom Tolbert, called Jim Harbaugh a genius. "I look at him as a genius. Since I've been with the 49ers, I've never had an offensive head coach. So this is going to be great, especially for the offense."
Davis on Alex Smith: "I believe he will (succeed) because he's a hard worker, he's tough mentally and physically. And I say that because I've been here with Alex since Day 1. I know he can do it, he just has to come around. And I think this is going to be the year for him"
I like Alex as a player, and I'm pulling for him -- through the team -- because the team's success is greatly reliant on his play.
My perspective on Alex is: I think the guy gets zero credit for any of the good he does show, but at the same time, it is no secret that he hasn't played up to his bidding, even when taking into account the ways he's really been handcuffed since being drafted.
Still, over the past two seasons, in 22 games Alex has put up plenty respectable numbers, I'd say. Enough under the horrendous coaching staff to lead me to believe he has the best "chance" at least this year, than he ever has had before, to have a very successful season. His combined numbers over the past two seasons:
Avg. yards per game: 215 yards
Completion Percentage: 60%
Touchdowns: 32
QB Rating: 81.8
Really not so terrible considering most of this was under Sing/Raye.
The people who agree or are on the fence probably won't argue this...but those who just dislike Alex don't want to hear it..and probably won't...and most definately won't agree despite facts. The response will be 6 years of alecuses..doesn't matter what the head coach is...failed under all the coaches including turner and martz...
And no that's not pointed at anyone of those who don't like Alex...it's just the common theme.
May 19, 2011 at 8:45 PM
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Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:
Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
He never had a coach with a clue about QB's. So this would be his last chance.
fixed
You could call it best chance or last chance. One of his best years was under Norv Turner. A guy with a clue about QB's. And Harbaugh is at least that good or even better. So I would expect the guy to respond. Ideally you would want 2 years under Harbaugh. Because that is what Alex needs. Stability. But he will get 1 and at least this guy knows QB's.
And there it is, the first Alexcuse of the Harbaugh era! Classic.
+limited offseason to workout due to the lockout
They never end.
May 19, 2011 at 8:48 PM
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Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by PTulini:Quote:
Matt Barrows:
Vernon Davis, on KNBR w/ Tom Tolbert, called Jim Harbaugh a genius. "I look at him as a genius. Since I've been with the 49ers, I've never had an offensive head coach. So this is going to be great, especially for the offense."
Davis on Alex Smith: "I believe he will (succeed) because he's a hard worker, he's tough mentally and physically. And I say that because I've been here with Alex since Day 1. I know he can do it, he just has to come around. And I think this is going to be the year for him"
I like Alex as a player, and I'm pulling for him -- through the team -- because the team's success is greatly reliant on his play.
My perspective on Alex is: I think the guy gets zero credit for any of the good he does show, but at the same time, it is no secret that he hasn't played up to his bidding, even when taking into account the ways he's really been handcuffed since being drafted.
Still, over the past two seasons, in 22 games Alex has put up plenty respectable numbers, I'd say. Enough under the horrendous coaching staff to lead me to believe he has the best "chance" at least this year, than he ever has had before, to have a very successful season. His combined numbers over the past two seasons:
Avg. yards per game: 215 yards
Completion Percentage: 60%
Touchdowns: 32
QB Rating: 81.8
Really not so terrible considering most of this was under Sing/Raye.
The people who agree or are on the fence probably won't argue this...but those who just dislike Alex don't want to hear it..and probably won't...and most definately won't agree despite facts. The response will be 6 years of alecuses..doesn't matter what the head coach is...failed under all the coaches including turner and martz...
And no that's not pointed at anyone of those who don't like Alex...it's just the common theme.
I suppose not. Just trying to present a simple, fair and even assessment that shows both sides of the coin.
Point 1: Alex, even if you consider poor coaching, hasn't played well enough for a former first overall pick.
Point 2: At the same time, his numbers are not horrific like some would argue.. and have been respectable lately, despite the obvious coaching deficiencies that none here can say weren't there..
May 19, 2011 at 8:56 PM
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Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by Jakemall:Originally posted by OnTheClock:Originally posted by PTulini:Quote:
Matt Barrows:
Vernon Davis, on KNBR w/ Tom Tolbert, called Jim Harbaugh a genius. "I look at him as a genius. Since I've been with the 49ers, I've never had an offensive head coach. So this is going to be great, especially for the offense."
Davis on Alex Smith: "I believe he will (succeed) because he's a hard worker, he's tough mentally and physically. And I say that because I've been here with Alex since Day 1. I know he can do it, he just has to come around. And I think this is going to be the year for him"
I like Alex as a player, and I'm pulling for him -- through the team -- because the team's success is greatly reliant on his play.
My perspective on Alex is: I think the guy gets zero credit for any of the good he does show, but at the same time, it is no secret that he hasn't played up to his bidding, even when taking into account the ways he's really been handcuffed since being drafted.
Still, over the past two seasons, in 22 games Alex has put up plenty respectable numbers, I'd say. Enough under the horrendous coaching staff to lead me to believe he has the best "chance" at least this year, than he ever has had before, to have a very successful season. His combined numbers over the past two seasons:
Avg. yards per game: 215 yards
Completion Percentage: 60%
Touchdowns: 32
QB Rating: 81.8
Really not so terrible considering most of this was under Sing/Raye.
The people who agree or are on the fence probably won't argue this...but those who just dislike Alex don't want to hear it..and probably won't...and most definately won't agree despite facts. The response will be 6 years of alecuses..doesn't matter what the head coach is...failed under all the coaches including turner and martz...
And no that's not pointed at anyone of those who don't like Alex...it's just the common theme.
I suppose not. Just trying to present a simple, fair and even assessment that shows both sides of the coin.
Point 1: Alex, even if you consider poor coaching, hasn't played well enough for a former first overall pick.
Point 2: At the same time, his numbers are not horrific like some would argue.. and have been respectable lately, despite the obvious coaching deficiencies that none here can say weren't there..
He most definately has not lived up to his potential. His numbers have been okay...and he has shown glimpses...but he does come up short more than anyone would like obviously...just hope that Harbaugh can coach him up and that he hasn't been ruined by years of bad coaching.
May 19, 2011 at 9:13 PM
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:Originally posted by SanDiego49er:Originally posted by global_nomad:
Just come around Alex. We've been waiting 6 years for that!
He never had a coach with a clue about QB's. So this would be his last chance.
fixed
You could call it best chance or last chance. One of his best years was under Norv Turner. A guy with a clue about QB's. And Harbaugh is at least that good or even better. So I would expect the guy to respond. Ideally you would want 2 years under Harbaugh. Because that is what Alex needs. Stability. But he will get 1 and at least this guy knows QB's.
You are right. I just think its hard to root for Alex when Kaeprnick seems to be Harbaugh'schosen one. I think one year on the bench and one offseason with Harb and Kapernick will have the kind of success Josh Freeman shows 9-10 win seasons right away.
Kaepernick probably will be the future. But he has a really long way to go. He doesn't even take snaps from center and they ran the pistol offense. There is no guarantee he ever works out. I hope for the best. But we will see.
If Alex plays well and it's a big if IMO we will re sign him for longer.
Agreed.