Harbaugh will expose this team

Most of these guys go down as drafting errors. They were drafting too high because the 9ers were looking to fill certain holes. Because of this they were given every chance to play in order to hide the fact that the niners draft bad. I just hope to never see Chilo in a 9er uniform again.

Harbaugh is dropping his pants too?

Originally posted by carlgo:
It is certainly expected that JH will provide rational and professional coaching.

What this means is that good players will have a chance to show their stuff, but it will also be true that poor players will no longer be able to hide behind the the hideous shadow of coaching incompetence any more.

It will be interesting to see who succeeds and who proves to be a weak link when given the chance to play out in the sunshine for a change.

I can't wait! I think now that (we're assuming here) proper systems will be installed, players roles will be highlighted and skill sets will be exposed for better or for worse. I think there are several players on our team who play at ½ speed, not to get hurt, have low morale (understandable) and as many of you feel, we’ve wasted some potential great talent on improper utilization of players skill sets.

Offense:
Staley may be a player exposed as not being as stout at the LT position, RG may be exposed but all in all, I think the line will get better. The weak links will be easier to "see" but overall, the line will look better across the board.
Gore has been in an ideal running game but his only big weakness is the inability to bounce outside and expose the edges so defenses have been able to key on stacking the box and playing inside the tackles.
QB, no matter who it is, will grow with proper coaching and game-planning.
WR’s, Crabtree, Morgan, etc. shine in an open passing game but it was a game that rarely called for crossing routes and post patterns…welcome back WCO!
TE’s will be used more

Defense:
Sopoaga, I feel will be used better and be asked to push up field more as opposed to just holding the POC for Lawson/Willis
Franklin will be exposed as not being the wide-body we need who can collapse the pocket and stuff the run and excel in short yardage plays
Lawson probably won’t be with us but after 6 years, we know what his skill set is
Brooks will finally be freed and allowed to become a starter on every down and will excel
Willis will become an excellent downhill pass rusher and like Brooks, will be moved around a lot to create mismatches
Haralson will actually become a better pass rusher b/c of scheme alone but will rotate with the starting OLB’s
Mays will be able to play inside the box, blitz, hit, in run support, etc.
Clements/Spencer will be allowed to play tight up at the LOS and be very physical with WR’s which will enable them to continue to have great success in the run game, run CB blitzes more frequently and take more chances (their role will be completely contingent upon the success of the pass rush which is why we go Quinn @ #7)

[ Edited by NCommand on Apr 26, 2011 at 09:43:47 ]

You need a good HC and a great QB to succeed in this league. Check the first box, Harbaugh is as good as it is going to get. He need to have the full five years to evaluate how he is doing.

QB- If Harbaugh can solve this sooner than later, then the ship will turn and the niners might finally be competitive and make the playoffs for the first time in 10 years.

I am starting to think Harbaugh needs to trade down, draft Christian Ponder and Colin Kaepernick as qb's. Develop both, let the winner start. You need a great qb and a quality back up. If both turn out to be great, trade one for draft picks, if one is great and one is average, you have your 1,2 set for years to come.

If they both bust, you move on, but grooming 2 in your system can only increase your odds.

Originally posted by 9erred:
You need a good HC and a great QB to succeed in this league. Check the first box, Harbaugh is as good as it is going to get. He need to have the full five years to evaluate how he is doing.

QB- If Harbaugh can solve this sooner than later, then the ship will turn and the niners might finally be competitive and make the playoffs for the first time in 10 years.

I am starting to think Harbaugh needs to trade down, draft Christian Ponder and Colin Kaepernick as qb's. Develop both, let the winner start. You need a great qb and a quality back up. If both turn out to be great, trade one for draft picks, if one is great and one is average, you have your 1,2 set for years to come.

If they both bust, you move on, but grooming 2 in your system can only increase your odds.

That's an interesting idea, I haven't heard that floated around before. Not sure how practical it is though. Usually when you draft someone in the first round you expect them to start right away, or sit a year and then start. Drafting two guys at the same position means one will have to sit behind the other.

Originally posted by Otter:

Originally posted by 9erred:
You need a good HC and a great QB to succeed in this league. Check the first box, Harbaugh is as good as it is going to get. He need to have the full five years to evaluate how he is doing.

QB- If Harbaugh can solve this sooner than later, then the ship will turn and the niners might finally be competitive and make the playoffs for the first time in 10 years.

I am starting to think Harbaugh needs to trade down, draft Christian Ponder and Colin Kaepernick as qb's. Develop both, let the winner start. You need a great qb and a quality back up. If both turn out to be great, trade one for draft picks, if one is great and one is average, you have your 1,2 set for years to come.

If they both bust, you move on, but grooming 2 in your system can only increase your odds.

That's an interesting idea, I haven't heard that floated around before. Not sure how practical it is though. Usually when you draft someone in the first round you expect them to start right away, or sit a year and then start. Drafting two guys at the same position means one will have to sit behind the other.

Not crazy about this idea. The only way I would want a rookie to start is if its a cant miss prospect ready to play at the pro level (i.e. Sam Bradford). I dont think there are QBs like that in this draft.

Bring in a vet to start (Palmer, etc). Bring in a decent backup (Gradkowski etc.). Draft a QB to groom. Release Carr. Boom.

Harbaugh will "look at the film" then decide!

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:

Originally posted by Otter:

Originally posted by 9erred:
You need a good HC and a great QB to succeed in this league. Check the first box, Harbaugh is as good as it is going to get. He need to have the full five years to evaluate how he is doing.

QB- If Harbaugh can solve this sooner than later, then the ship will turn and the niners might finally be competitive and make the playoffs for the first time in 10 years.

I am starting to think Harbaugh needs to trade down, draft Christian Ponder and Colin Kaepernick as qb's. Develop both, let the winner start. You need a great qb and a quality back up. If both turn out to be great, trade one for draft picks, if one is great and one is average, you have your 1,2 set for years to come.

If they both bust, you move on, but grooming 2 in your system can only increase your odds.

That's an interesting idea, I haven't heard that floated around before. Not sure how practical it is though. Usually when you draft someone in the first round you expect them to start right away, or sit a year and then start. Drafting two guys at the same position means one will have to sit behind the other.

Not crazy about this idea. The only way I would want a rookie to start is if its a cant miss prospect ready to play at the pro level (i.e. Sam Bradford). I dont think there are QBs like that in this draft.

Bring in a vet to start (Palmer, etc). Bring in a decent backup (Gradkowski etc.). Draft a QB to groom. Release Carr. Boom.

Originally posted by Norcal9erfan:

Originally posted by 80sbaby24:

Originally posted by Otter:

Originally posted by 9erred:
You need a good HC and a great QB to succeed in this league. Check the first box, Harbaugh is as good as it is going to get. He need to have the full five years to evaluate how he is doing.

QB- If Harbaugh can solve this sooner than later, then the ship will turn and the niners might finally be competitive and make the playoffs for the first time in 10 years.

I am starting to think Harbaugh needs to trade down, draft Christian Ponder and Colin Kaepernick as qb's. Develop both, let the winner start. You need a great qb and a quality back up. If both turn out to be great, trade one for draft picks, if one is great and one is average, you have your 1,2 set for years to come.

If they both bust, you move on, but grooming 2 in your system can only increase your odds.

That's an interesting idea, I haven't heard that floated around before. Not sure how practical it is though. Usually when you draft someone in the first round you expect them to start right away, or sit a year and then start. Drafting two guys at the same position means one will have to sit behind the other.

Not crazy about this idea. The only way I would want a rookie to start is if its a cant miss prospect ready to play at the pro level (i.e. Sam Bradford). I dont think there are QBs like that in this draft.

Bring in a vet to start (Palmer, etc). Bring in a decent backup (Gradkowski etc.). Draft a QB to groom. Release Carr. Boom.

Tough actin' Tinactin!

Originally posted by carlgo:
It is certainly expected that JH will provide rational and professional coaching.

What this means is that good players will have a chance to show their stuff, but it will also be true that poor players will no longer be able to hide behind the the hideous shadow of coaching incompetence any more.

It will be interesting to see who succeeds and who proves to be a weak link when given the chance to play out in the sunshine for a change.

So Harbaugh is already anointed as a great NFL coach? That's comforting.

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Harbaugh is dropping his pants too?

lol

Originally posted by susweel:

Originally posted by VaBeachNiner:
Harbaugh is dropping his pants too?

lol

-9fA

Originally posted by endcapitalism:

Originally posted by carlgo:
It is certainly expected that JH will provide rational and professional coaching.

What this means is that good players will have a chance to show their stuff, but it will also be true that poor players will no longer be able to hide behind the the hideous shadow of coaching incompetence any more.

It will be interesting to see who succeeds and who proves to be a weak link when given the chance to play out in the sunshine for a change.

So Harbaugh is already anointed as a great NFL coach? That's comforting.

+1.

I think most of us would agree that we could have been in the playoffs the past two years if we only had solid QB play (this is why we brought in Harbaugh). Considering the people we could bring in from free agency or the draft over the years, even with Mike Singletary under the helm we've done a decent job of making the best roster and putting the best players on the field. Outside of players like Chilo, Alex / Shaun / J.T.O, and dealing with getting playing time for Ahmad Brooks there aren't any really big issues. Harbaugh doesn't need to retool the entire team like Nolan had to do when he first got here. All he needs to do is fix the QB position, produce a solid offense through coaching and scheme, and we're fine.