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Originally posted by Joecool:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by Joecool:
You know how in all the other years, the main question was not whether or not we had enough talent to win the division, it was always about what type of play we would get from the QB position.

I think that this offense will help Alex Smith. That's not really the question. The question is, will Alex Smith help this offense.

He has shown to be a solid enough QB to hold the fort but we are forgetting about one HUGE weakness which I will discuss a little further down, but first:

1. Will Gore have more space to run the ball?
2. Will the receivers be in better position to catch in space?
3. Will the ball spread keep teams unbalanced?

Two of the three questions revolve around the passing game. Now here's a more important question that's ALL about perspective because you never have perspective until you step outside and look back at yourself.

4. What will teams fear when playing us?

Ask yourself, when we play SEA, would you want our defense to play max cover because we will be afraid of Seattle's new QB or should we run blitz them like crazy and force the QB to make extremely quick reads and throws to beat us? If we play the Cardinals or Rams who also have unproven to semi proven QB's but solid talent at the RB position, do you want us to attack their running game or sit back and don't let their QB beat us?

Now back to Alex Smith and perspective. Remember back in 2007 after Gore had that monster year in 2006. 2007 was the first year teams began to run blitz us right up the middle like crazy and teams have not stopped doing this since then. It has been a tougher road for Gore with his average yards per carry dropping from that awesome 5+ ypc in 2006. Since 2006, our offense has struggled.

You are the Cardinals, Seahawks, and Rams head coach. You know we will try to have a dynamic passing attack to spread the ball but you don't know how effective it will be or how much it will hurt your team. HOWEVER, you do know that if you let Gore get going, your team is as good as dead. So what do you do? Run blitz like crazy clogging between the tackles vs the run and if the 49ers pass, then you are bringing immediate pressure.

The big question is, can Alex do what he has always been weakest at, which is the quick read vs that "run blitz" or whatever blitz teams were doing up the middle to stuff Gore and pressure the QB? No matter how good he looks in practice, can he make that jump pass 2 steps into his drop as the pressure is about to shoulder his chest and can he do it with accuracy along with the correct read.

No one is afraid of our passing game and they will force Alex Smith to be sharp and quick.

Let us see if he can do this. He will not be tested on this very important assignment in preseason.

He has gotten better at getting rid of the ball quicker, hopefully hyaving real audibles and running a system designed to get the ball out quickly will pay off. Good post Joe, valid question.

I agree he has gotten better overall but I am not convinced he has gotten better at the non-audible execute as designed quick hitting routes. The routes that Steve Young called, "blind" throws. The slants or 5 yard curls where he must let it go or don't throw it at all because it will be too late. The kind where he will get hit from a combination of a blitz and the fact that the O-Line will only block for a 3-step drop.

Unfortunately, we probably won't see this executed in preseason. We will see him throw the route but not under the pressure of a regular seasoned defensive game plan.

Man, if he can execute this is drawn up, he will destroy teams and Gore will have a grin so wide on his face that we will be able to see it from the bleachers as he runs through the gaping holes.

I am sure Harbaugh will get around to that, Smith seems to be genuinely excited to have a real coach now, you can tell this is the most excited he has ever been with his pro situation.
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Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by MertonHanksneck:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Here's my reasoning why this stat is deceiving.

Smith ranks 29th in 1st down %. Meaning more often than not he's just dumping it off into soft coverage and letting his target pick up a little rac before being stopped short of the 1st down marker.

That is something that is not a bad thing in a WCO.

Thanks captain obvious...so your telling me if someone catches a pass it is good if they pick up extra yardage??? wow,guess you really do learn something new every day! lmao people do and say anything to defend this joke of a QB...(Alex Smith). I do think he might have an ok season this year..but I will not cling onto every little meaningless stat just to get other zoners to agree with Alex homerism

Nice, make a new account so you do not get your main one banned for being a rude a-hole. Sorry if you do not like short passes to the back, they are a staple of the WCO. I guess from your ignorant post that you are so young that you do not remember winning five Superbowl rings doing the same thing. You pass short until they start crowding up on the short routes, then when you have them jumping the short routes, you hit them with the double moves for the big gain. That concludes our WCO for Dummies lesson for today, tune in tomorrow when we will be discussing making alternate accounts and being rude a*****es to our fellow fans, until tomorrow...have a nice day!

First of all I'm not changing anything....I clearly attacked your post...and Not you...just like it mentions in the rules...enjoy your warning for attacking me personally....I love the west coast offense I think it works great....I was simply pointing out the fact that Alex homers like to cling onto every pointless stat there is. Just because I dont agree with your opinion of Alex Smith, doesn't make me a rude a**hole. It is my right as an American and a fellow zoner to disagree with you....get over it.
Originally posted by MertonHanksneck:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by MertonHanksneck:
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
Originally posted by tjd808185:
Here's my reasoning why this stat is deceiving.

Smith ranks 29th in 1st down %. Meaning more often than not he's just dumping it off into soft coverage and letting his target pick up a little rac before being stopped short of the 1st down marker.

That is something that is not a bad thing in a WCO.

Thanks captain obvious...so your telling me if someone catches a pass it is good if they pick up extra yardage??? wow,guess you really do learn something new every day! lmao people do and say anything to defend this joke of a QB...(Alex Smith). I do think he might have an ok season this year..but I will not cling onto every little meaningless stat just to get other zoners to agree with Alex homerism

Nice, make a new account so you do not get your main one banned for being a rude a-hole. Sorry if you do not like short passes to the back, they are a staple of the WCO. I guess from your ignorant post that you are so young that you do not remember winning five Superbowl rings doing the same thing. You pass short until they start crowding up on the short routes, then when you have them jumping the short routes, you hit them with the double moves for the big gain. That concludes our WCO for Dummies lesson for today, tune in tomorrow when we will be discussing making alternate accounts and being rude a*****es to our fellow fans, until tomorrow...have a nice day!

First of all I'm not changing anything....I clearly attacked your post...and Not you...just like it mentions in the rules...enjoy your warning for attacking me personally....I love the west coast offense I think it works great....I was simply pointing out the fact that Alex homers like to cling onto every pointless stat there is. Just because I dont agree with your opinion of Alex Smith, doesn't make me a rude a**hole. It is my right as an American and a fellow zoner to disagree with you....get over it.

You called him captain obvious. Ironically, that is an obvious personal attack. Hah!
[ Edited by Young2Rice on Aug 9, 2011 at 7:49 PM ]
Originally posted by MertonHanksneck:
First of all I'm not changing anything....I clearly attacked your post...and Not you...just like it mentions in the rules...enjoy your warning for attacking me personally....I love the west coast offense I think it works great....I was simply pointing out the fact that Alex homers like to cling onto every pointless stat there is. Just because I dont agree with your opinion of Alex Smith, doesn't make me a rude a**hole. It is my right as an American and a fellow zoner to disagree with you....get over it.


So you don't agree that Smith is a mediocre qb that needs to step up his game if he wants to remain a niner? I might be a homer for the niners, but I am far from a die-hard Smith fan. I thought we should have traded back and built the oline and defense up. I thought all the qbs were less than spectacular. The only pro ready one was Rogers and honestly, I never thought much of any of Tedfords qbs at the pro level. What I have a problem with is all the ignorant hyperbole that inevitably comes into the conversation when Smith is involved. There are plenty enough legit reasons to criticize the man without going overboard with hyperbolic diatribe.
Originally posted by Young2Rice:
You called him captain obvious. Ironically, that is an obvious personal attack. Hah!


captain obvious vs rude a**hole your argument doesnt really hold water. Memphis is a big boy I think he can take care of himself.
[ Edited by MertonHanksneck on Aug 10, 2011 at 10:24 PM ]
Originally posted by Memphis9er:
So you don't agree that Smith is a mediocre qb that needs to step up his game if he wants to remain a niner? I might be a homer for the niners, but I am far from a die-hard Smith fan. I thought we should have traded back and built the oline and defense up. I thought all the qbs were less than spectacular. The only pro ready one was Rogers and honestly, I never thought much of any of Tedfords qbs at the pro level. What I have a problem with is all the ignorant hyperbole that inevitably comes into the conversation when Smith is involved. There are plenty enough legit reasons to criticize the man without going overboard with hyperbolic diatribe.


OK I give..you win..I was being a jerk...had a lil to much to drink that night...I agree with your assessment on Smith...I still dont see anything that is ignorant in any of my posts,but i was being an a**hole, for that I am sorry!
Originally posted by MertonHanksneck:
OK I give..you win..I was being a jerk...had a lil to much to drink that night...I agree with your assessment on Smith...I still dont see anything that is ignorant in any of my posts,but i was being an a**hole, for that I am sorry!


'sall good homie
Originally posted by Oakland-Niner:
That is fantasic if we start playing for the Intangible Superbowl.


haha, best reply I've seen in a long time here.
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