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Taylor Mays at OLB?
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:11 PM
- JustMike
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If you move him to a different position, after only his rookie season, then how is he suppose to become great as a strong safty. Give him time. After year 2 or 3 then maybe you can take another look at other options. Its not as if he was the worst player in his respective position on the team.
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:15 PM
- jonnydellfan
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Are we talking about an OLB in a 4-3 or 3-4 scheme? The move wouldn't make sense for our current defense. An OLB in a 3-4 scheme has to have much more size as they have to be able to stand up to pulling guards and TE's in run blocking to set the edge. 3-4 OLB's need to between 260-280 lbs. If we ran a 4-3 scheme then it could work as an OLB in a 4-3 OLB is ideal between 230-240. I thought Mays played pretty well, while he was out of position a few times he didn't give up any huge plays because of it. With his speed his potential is through the roof. Remember what Rod Woodson said about the kid when he came and saw him. Out of all our players he said Mays is going to be special.
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:18 PM
- MadDog49er
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It worked for Thomas Davis, so while many poo-poo the idea, it can be done. Mays may be best suited at OLB since coverage is a problem for him in the back end of the secondary.
A number of scouts at the Senior Bowl last year thought his future would be at OLB, so it may be this is the course that he takes.
A number of scouts at the Senior Bowl last year thought his future would be at OLB, so it may be this is the course that he takes.
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:26 PM
- Hopper
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Originally posted by MadDog49er:
It worked for Thomas Davis, so while many poo-poo the idea, it can be done. Mays may be best suited at OLB since coverage is a problem for him in the back end of the secondary.
A number of scouts at the Senior Bowl last year thought his future would be at OLB, so it may be this is the course that he takes.
It could be done if we switched to a 4-3 defense. Clearly not the case though.
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:30 PM
- 80849er4life
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It could work.
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:32 PM
- KID9R
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Originally posted by 80849er4life:
It could work.
no it couldn't
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:33 PM
- Micky6
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Originally posted by nw9erfan:Originally posted by boast:
Well...to quote Richard Dreyfuss in "Jaws"....."You got any better suggestions?"
"you're gonna need a bigger boat"... why move him to a position that he doesn't... has never played? A better suggestion would be to NOT play him at OLB. Now I'm cool with the notion of him playing a all over the place like Polamalu. In terms of putting a rangey guy at OLB to do a little of everything, Manny Lawson does that pretty well. He plays contain, he covers, he takes a lane for backside pursuit and very rarely he is asked to rush the passer, which he actually does with surprising efficiency.
Using a Safety in the passrush can cause blockers to blow an assignment. Rushing Mays as elephant matches him up against OTs, with doubles from TEs and RBs. Meaning he won't be able to use his speed to his advantage. I think there are many better ideas or 'suggestions' quite frankly.
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:45 PM
- MaliCali
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Originally posted by TMays_isaBEAST23:
yea, you do realize Mays is freakishly fast for a man his size. Of course, he couldn't keep up with the Desean Jackson's and Mike Wallace's of the world. But his speed is fine to cover guys like Fitz, Williams, and others.
considering your user name im surprised that you didnt know much about the kid in college it seems.
as there is quite the memorable play of Taylor Mays outrunning Desean Jackson to the outside...and Jackson is without a doubt faster than Wallace..
Mays also timed better both officially and unofficially than the both of them...so I'm not sure where you get that assumption from. He is ridiculously fast.
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:46 PM
- Nalo9er
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Originally posted by boast:
LOL!
I cant be sure but i think McNutty just told Bunk hes gonna f**k with another dead homeless guy
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:47 PM
- 80849er4life
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Originally posted by KID9R:Originally posted by 80849er4life:
It could work.
no it couldn't
Why not, everybody just drools how great of an athlete, why couldnt it work?
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:48 PM
- DaveWilcox
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I would love to know if Mays was truly a Balke selection or a Singletary driven selection.
Who was the triggerman?????
Good teams can't afford to whiff on 2nd rounders.
Who was the triggerman?????
Good teams can't afford to whiff on 2nd rounders.
Jan 20, 2011 at 5:49 PM
- thedude
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I'd give him a chance to develop at SS first, but personally I don't think it's that stupid of an idea. This was the same discussion the Cowboys had of SS Williams for years, he got burned in coverage weekly but was intriguing as an OLB prospect...they never made the move though. IMO, if he doesn't acclimate by next season this is a possibly good avenue to explore - but not yet.
Jan 20, 2011 at 6:05 PM
- BuZzB28
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I wonder.. We have a coach safety? I think, we don't have a Coach safety teach to Mays. ... We need to hire the top Coach Safety for defense and cover and blitz cuz Safety is very important for power to hit with the defense blitz! We need it so badly.
Jan 20, 2011 at 6:07 PM
- KID9R
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Originally posted by 80849er4life:Originally posted by KID9R:Originally posted by 80849er4life:
It could work.
no it couldn't
Why not, everybody just drools how great of an athlete, why couldnt it work?
Well maybe if we played the 4-3 he could. but at OLB in the 3-4 he needs to be threat to rush on any given down, otherwise it practically would be a 4-3. So when he rushes in the 3-4 he would be up against a T who would crush him, outweighing him by at least 70lbs. So then what is Mays (who has probably never practiced any pass rush moves in his career) going to do. He's going to be a one trick pony and speed rush off the edge every time or teams will run it down his throat. and I really didn't think he did a good job tackling at all this year. He seemed to be always going for the kill shot and ended up dripping off the guy but still making the ankle tackle most of the time.
Jan 20, 2011 at 6:09 PM
- jones49
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Do you think if Mays lost 15 pounds it would help him at all?