Matt Barrows article today...

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by English:
Ok looking forward to the first thread to come up with a way we can trade up from No 21 to get Luck!

I hope one gets started. Honestly, I wouldn't mind the niners giving away the farm for that guy. He's about as safe of a pick as they come.

Wow.

Why don't you think so? Plays well in a pro style offense, has the arm and wheels.

The niners are a good team without a true leader behind center. Sort of like the Rams were last year. To me, I could see him easily being this upcoming year's Sam Bradford. I just think if they can get him and a proven HC then their back in the playoff picture.

Ok give me your scenario of how we are trading up from #21 to #1 REALISTICALLY?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Everyone is worried about a high draft pick...but lately our past picks haven't done sh!t..

I disagree. We hit a homer with VD, Crabs is good and would be a lot better with a good QB, A. Davis will be good (mark my word and Iupati his already good. Balmer was the 1 bust we've had after Alex.

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Everyone is worried about a high draft pick...but lately our past picks haven't done sh!t..

I disagree. We hit a homer with VD, Crabs is good and would be a lot better with a good QB, A. Davis will be good (mark my word and Iupati his already good. Balmer was the 1 bust we've had after Alex.

PW,VD,Crabs since 2003 is good?

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Everyone is worried about a high draft pick...but lately our past picks haven't done sh!t..

I disagree. We hit a homer with VD, Crabs is good and would be a lot better with a good QB, A. Davis will be good (mark my word and Iupati his already good. Balmer was the 1 bust we've had after Alex.

PW,VD,Crabs since 2003 is good?

A.Davis and Iupati will be good if not great. Since 03, you're right but since 2006 we have only had 1 bad 1st rounder.

Originally posted by dj43:
The absolute worst thing that could happen to this team would be to make the playoffs and drop to #21 in the draft. With 4 CRITICAL needs that all demand high value players to fill, making the playoffs at 7-9 would almost guarantee mediocrity or worse for the next four years.

ive got news for you pal. This has nothing to do with draft position. THis has to do with the idiots upstairs that choose the players. Mediocrity is due to this and only this. I dont see greenbay having issues picking qbs or other position players in the 20s that are probowl caliber. I can name several teams that draft well without being a top 20 team in the draft. We are losers from top to bottom, thats why we will have 4 more years of the same.

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by English:
Ok looking forward to the first thread to come up with a way we can trade up from No 21 to get Luck!

I hope one gets started. Honestly, I wouldn't mind the niners giving away the farm for that guy. He's about as safe of a pick as they come.

Wow.

Why don't you think so? Plays well in a pro style offense, has the arm and wheels.

The niners are a good team without a true leader behind center. Sort of like the Rams were last year. To me, I could see him easily being this upcoming year's Sam Bradford. I just think if they can get him and a proven HC then their back in the playoff picture.

Ok give me your scenario of how we are trading up from #21 to #1 REALISTICALLY?

Well, if we have the #21 pick it will be A LOT harder and probably won't happen. But if we have the 8th 9th or 10th pick (assuming we miss the playoffs) and offer that along with another first rounder in next years draft and perhaps a player I could see it happening. I remember reading an article where Eddie D was saying if the niners don't make the playoffs expect Jed to be making some big changes. I think he will. His back is up against the wall. If they don't start winning soon, that stadium will start to look like a bad idea real quick and the Niners could come to LA. That being the case, I could see drastic measures taken.

In this league, if you have and average team (C/C+) but a great HC and QB chances are you're going to the playoffs. But, if you have a crappy HC and QB you're not going no matter how good your team looks on paper.

I think the niners are starting to realize this by now because the rumors are starting to swirl.

Likely? Maybe not... but I wouldn't be shocked.

Wait a minute! I think I want the Niners to get to the playoffs.

WHY? I don't WANT them to select another QB bust.

Due to their lame luck, I'd rather let everyone else pickup Luck, Fig Newton, Focker and everyone else, and get a free agent while we wait for one of Montana's kids.

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by English:
Ok looking forward to the first thread to come up with a way we can trade up from No 21 to get Luck!

I hope one gets started. Honestly, I wouldn't mind the niners giving away the farm for that guy. He's about as safe of a pick as they come.

that has been said about so many people......

-9fA

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by English:
Ok looking forward to the first thread to come up with a way we can trade up from No 21 to get Luck!

I hope one gets started. Honestly, I wouldn't mind the niners giving away the farm for that guy. He's about as safe of a pick as they come.

Wow.

Why don't you think so? Plays well in a pro style offense, has the arm and wheels.

The niners are a good team without a true leader behind center. Sort of like the Rams were last year. To me, I could see him easily being this upcoming year's Sam Bradford. I just think if they can get him and a proven HC then their back in the playoff picture.

Ok give me your scenario of how we are trading up from #21 to #1 REALISTICALLY?

Here ya go . . .
1) Jed is already working out a contract for Harbaugh and will be waiting in the locker room following the Orange Bowl.
2) Harbaugh, hopefully loves living in the Bay Area, accepts with the condition that he can go after Luck having full authority to use whatever players and draft picks it takes to get him.
3) Luck, hopefully loves living in the Bay Area too and also loves Harbaugh as a coach, accepts a quiet dinner at the Harbaugh household.
4) Harbaugh, while the music is playing loudly, instructs Luck to tell all the other teams he is returning to Stanford.
5) Harbaugh then approaches the Carolina Panthers with a more than fair trade for the #1 pick. Telling them they won't get anything for the pick if Luck isn't entering the draft, that no other player is worth the #1 pick. But he thinks, but really knows, he can persuade Luck to enter the draft if the niners have the 1st pick. But the trade has to be completed before the deadline for Luck to declare for the draft.
6) Will Carolina call his bluff and lose out on a ton of picks to rebuild their team????

Originally posted by highwayone:
Wait a minute! I think I want the Niners to get to the playoffs.

WHY? I don't WANT them to select another QB bust.

Due to their lame luck, I'd rather let everyone else pickup Luck, Fig Newton, Focker and everyone else, and get a free agent while we wait for one of Montana's kids.

word!!! i'm game for that...might be a shot in the dark, but a guy named Montana pulled us from the bowels of the nfc some years ago...i live up in WA and cant wait to see nick montana get on the field at UW...not a husky fan or a fan of anything seattle, but i do look forward to seeing him play every saturday at some point in the future

Originally posted by tommyncal:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by English:
Ok looking forward to the first thread to come up with a way we can trade up from No 21 to get Luck!

I hope one gets started. Honestly, I wouldn't mind the niners giving away the farm for that guy. He's about as safe of a pick as they come.

Wow.

Why don't you think so? Plays well in a pro style offense, has the arm and wheels.

The niners are a good team without a true leader behind center. Sort of like the Rams were last year. To me, I could see him easily being this upcoming year's Sam Bradford. I just think if they can get him and a proven HC then their back in the playoff picture.

Ok give me your scenario of how we are trading up from #21 to #1 REALISTICALLY?

Here ya go . . .
1) Jed is already working out a contract for Harbaugh and will be waiting in the locker room following the Orange Bowl.
2) Harbaugh, hopefully loves living in the Bay Area, accepts with the condition that he can go after Luck having full authority to use whatever players and draft picks it takes to get him.
3) Luck, hopefully loves living in the Bay Area too and also loves Harbaugh as a coach, accepts a quiet dinner at the Harbaugh household.
4) Harbaugh, while the music is playing loudly, instructs Luck to tell all the other teams he is returning to Stanford.
5) Harbaugh then approaches the Carolina Panthers with a more than fair trade for the #1 pick. Telling them they won't get anything for the pick if Luck isn't entering the draft, that no other player is worth the #1 pick. But he thinks, but really knows, he can persuade Luck to enter the draft if the niners have the 1st pick. But the trade has to be completed before the deadline for Luck to declare for the draft.
6) Will Carolina call his bluff and lose out on a ton of picks to rebuild their team????

I'm really sad I'm in bed and on my iPhone right. now, can someone please post the captain Picard "what the f**k is this s**t?" pic.

k. thx. bye.

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by SanDiego49er:

Originally posted by mustangmele:

Originally posted by English:
Ok looking forward to the first thread to come up with a way we can trade up from No 21 to get Luck!

I hope one gets started. Honestly, I wouldn't mind the niners giving away the farm for that guy. He's about as safe of a pick as they come.

Wow.

Why don't you think so? Plays well in a pro style offense, has the arm and wheels.

The niners are a good team without a true leader behind center. Sort of like the Rams were last year. To me, I could see him easily being this upcoming year's Sam Bradford. I just think if they can get him and a proven HC then their back in the playoff picture.

I'd trade the farm for Andrew Luck also!!

That means the Niners should be a solid football team from 2012-13 till 2025!

With any Luck, I could wait a couple more years.

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Everyone is worried about a high draft pick...but lately our past picks haven't done sh!t..

I disagree. We hit a homer with VD, Crabs is good and would be a lot better with a good QB, A. Davis will be good (mark my word and Iupati his already good. Balmer was the 1 bust we've had after Alex.

Balmer is playing very well in Seattle.

He just couldn't get on the field because we run a 43 D and have 3 quality downlinemen.

Originally posted by jones49:

Originally posted by 49AllTheTime:
Everyone is worried about a high draft pick...but lately our past picks haven't done sh!t..

I disagree. We hit a homer with VD, Crabs is good and would be a lot better with a good QB, A. Davis will be good (mark my word and Iupati his already good. Balmer was the 1 bust we've had after Alex.

Crabs needs to run a route and learn to catch the ball before we can give him any type of credit.

Originally posted by whatawegot:

Originally posted by dj43:
The absolute worst thing that could happen to this team would be to make the playoffs and drop to #21 in the draft. With 4 CRITICAL needs that all demand high value players to fill, making the playoffs at 7-9 would almost guarantee mediocrity or worse for the next four years.

ive got news for you pal. This has nothing to do with draft position. THis has to do with the idiots upstairs that choose the players. Mediocrity is due to this and only this. I dont see greenbay having issues picking qbs or other position players in the 20s that are probowl caliber. I can name several teams that draft well without being a top 20 team in the draft. We are losers from top to bottom, thats why we will have 4 more years of the same.

If you look at reality, the predominance of major impact players you will find that the best harvest is in the top 15. That is why every team tries to move up if they can in order to get those guys.

Do impact players sometimes fool the experts?

Yes, but they are the exceptions...pal.