Singletary's biggest contribution

Gott be da FILM!

Getting Vernon to grow up.

Originally posted by 24plus25er:

Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Now that the Sing era may be nearing it's end, I was thinking about what may be his biggest or most impactful contribution to the Niners. Naturally, I believe it to be related to his ability as a motivator, and not as a strategist. As we've seen, rah-rah only gets you so far. So, IMHO I think his turnaround of Vernon is his most important accomplishment. He took a self-absorbed, volatile man-child who celebrated every reception as if it was the winning catch in the Superbowl and almost overnight, transformed him into a mature team leader, role model and student of his position and the game. A better player and more importantly, a better man. (Now, if he'd only take the same position with Crabtree!) Individually, there may be more players he's had such a positive effect on, but none so prominent. Too bad he's not as good a coach/game manager.

I see people keep saying that Singletary is not a good coach or game manager. As a football player on every level except pro, I would consider game managing being more of a stat than a level of skill. Game managing is basically deciding do we go for it on 4th and short or do we punt it and let our defense get the ball back for us. Most coaches will be VERY shallow in this feature of the game and will always go by rule of thumb. Which my recollection Mike has been by the book in game managing. He dosen't go out and run fake field goals when were are down by three, nor does he constantly dial up two point conversions. He falls into the 98 percentile when he comes to game managing.

Now COACHING is more of a skill and it's a skill that Mike Singletary has been proven to excel at. Coaching is your ability to help player reach their max potential by making sure they practice with the correct level of discipline, imply the correct methods in game, and reflect an positive attitude on and off the field of play. Mike have proven his body of work with our two best players Willis and V.Davis, he can lead a group of grown men which is a VERY VERY hard thing to do in professional sports where 90% of the players make more than the head coach and are not considered to be as expendable.

Through our 0-5 start and hard times, Mike has kept everything in house and has kept his team in support of him. Our players play HARD, and you can see that if you actually watch the games. The team obviously believes in Mike, Mike and Greg and it shows in our relentless pursuit to win this division. The fact is that we have maybe a handful of elite nfl players and the rest are role players. It's not like we lined up with Peyton Manning, Joesph Addai, Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon, Austin Collie, Dallas Clark, Dwight Freeny, Robert Mathis etc. etc. and had a sub.500 record 14 weeks through. Our best players our Gore, Davis, Willis, Andy Lee, and Justin Smith. If you took our roster and listed the other players who can start on ANY team in the NFL it fails in comparison to top teams. I think we owe Mike one more year at least. We will never be a successful NFL franchise by hiring a coach and not allowing him to grow. Mike Singletary was pursued by more than just the 49ers during the off season but he stayed loyal to us. Sometimes you have to let a quality guy like Singletary improve his weaknesses on the job, to get the results you want. My question is, what do we do if we fire Sing and his replacement finishes with a worse or equal record to Sings first run?

Be quiet JED!!!

MT Pain FTW!

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Refurbished film room with fluffy swivel seats, and a 20 inch Magnavox CRT!!!

This times a 100!

His contribution...hmmm. Here is a guy who thought, actually believed, that one NFL team could actually push the other teams all over the field.

He did not know that other teams hire clever defensive coordinators and pay millions and millions of dollars for the biggest, strongest, fastest, most skilled and committed defensive players available.

Or that it was actually good to score a lot of points yourself. Really, he wanted to limit his team's scoring!

He actually selected backup QBs who were not threats to the chosen starter, and they were not allowed to compete or evidently even practice with the team!

Really, when in the history of the game has any coach been so absolutely disruptive and useless? Nolan looks like Bill Walsh in comparison. All the coaches who get fired every year look like Bill Walsh in comparison.

So, he straightened out one guy! Wow, what an accomplishment.

Oh, and his great communications skills... he is just awful at that as well.

The " I want winners" speech it sold a lot of merchandise and false hope.

Singletary's greatest contribution?
Answering the question of whether he wears boxers or briefs.

Allowing the Yorks to see that they don't know what they're doing. Hence all the chatter about bringing in proven football people to run the team.

I honestly think that this is Singletary's biggest contribution as a 49ers HC.

Originally posted by 24plus25er:

Originally posted by 4evrfan:
Now that the Sing era may be nearing it's end, I was thinking about what may be his biggest or most impactful contribution to the Niners. Naturally, I believe it to be related to his ability as a motivator, and not as a strategist. As we've seen, rah-rah only gets you so far. So, IMHO I think his turnaround of Vernon is his most important accomplishment. He took a self-absorbed, volatile man-child who celebrated every reception as if it was the winning catch in the Superbowl and almost overnight, transformed him into a mature team leader, role model and student of his position and the game. A better player and more importantly, a better man. (Now, if he'd only take the same position with Crabtree!) Individually, there may be more players he's had such a positive effect on, but none so prominent. Too bad he's not as good a coach/game manager.

I see people keep saying that Singletary is not a good coach or game manager. As a football player on every level except pro, I would consider game managing being more of a stat than a level of skill. Game managing is basically deciding do we go for it on 4th and short or do we punt it and let our defense get the ball back for us. Most coaches will be VERY shallow in this feature of the game and will always go by rule of thumb. Which my recollection Mike has been by the book in game managing. He dosen't go out and run fake field goals when were are down by three, nor does he constantly dial up two point conversions. He falls into the 98 percentile when he comes to game managing.

Now COACHING is more of a skill and it's a skill that Mike Singletary has been proven to excel at. Coaching is your ability to help player reach their max potential by making sure they practice with the correct level of discipline, imply the correct methods in game, and reflect an positive attitude on and off the field of play. Mike have proven his body of work with our two best players Willis and V.Davis, he can lead a group of grown men which is a VERY VERY hard thing to do in professional sports where 90% of the players make more than the head coach and are not considered to be as expendable.

Through our 0-5 start and hard times, Mike has kept everything in house and has kept his team in support of him. Our players play HARD, and you can see that if you actually watch the games. The team obviously believes in Mike, Mike and Greg and it shows in our relentless pursuit to win this division. The fact is that we have maybe a handful of elite nfl players and the rest are role players. It's not like we lined up with Peyton Manning, Joesph Addai, Reggie Wayne, Pierre Garcon, Austin Collie, Dallas Clark, Dwight Freeny, Robert Mathis etc. etc. and had a sub.500 record 14 weeks through. Our best players our Gore, Davis, Willis, Andy Lee, and Justin Smith. If you took our roster and listed the other players who can start on ANY team in the NFL it fails in comparison to top teams. I think we owe Mike one more year at least. We will never be a successful NFL franchise by hiring a coach and not allowing him to grow. Mike Singletary was pursued by more than just the 49ers during the off season but he stayed loyal to us. Sometimes you have to let a quality guy like Singletary improve his weaknesses on the job, to get the results you want. My question is, what do we do if we fire Sing and his replacement finishes with a worse or equal record to Sings first run?

I'd have to disagree on the coaching/manager comments above. There's ceratinly more to coaching and managing than just motivating players and knowing when to go for it on 4th down. As someone else so astutely detailed, there is strategy, clock as well as down management, timeout use, player instruction and preparation(not just motivation), including player expectation (player's expectation of the coach and vice verse), game plan adjustments on the fly and at halftime, understanding the rules of the game, plus overall philosophy. Sing has failed in the majority of these categories.
Just because he's a leader of men and a consummate motivator, itr doesn't make him a quality NFL coach. Someday maybe; just not now or probably next year either. I also find his treatment of players to be inconsistent as well. If one were to judge his tolerance of underachieving or insubordination (borderline or flagrant), Crabtree should have been benched from the start and many times along the way. Others who entered his doghouse, for whatever reason, never saw the light of day again. He's also been extremely patient for Morgan to emerge (mainly because of his blocking). But that's a tangent we don't need to follow. Point is, he's an incomplete coach at best and seems to be taking this team in the wrong direction; backwards. And if his biggest accomplishment in 2 years is the Vernon Davis turnaround, that ain't enough.