Eddie D "Wholesale changes"

Originally posted by NinerGM:




Sure - the type of GM IMHO that the 49ers need is someone who has not only the experience of helping to build a franchise, but also has experience with drafting and interviewing, hiring, helping to construct good administrative and coaching staffs ala Ozzie Newsome or Scott Pioli or Ted Thompson (who learned from Ron Wolf). We need someone who has contacts throughout the NFL and respected enough where he can make a call out league-wide and get great people to work for him and understand who best fits in helping to rebuild this team/organization. So just taking a senior scout may be great for the draft next year, but it completely ignores the gaping hole that is the 49ers coaching staff (development) and lack of consistency. Scott McCloughan as GM was here for a while but through that entire tenure were the 49ers more consistent? Did Scott help Nolan build the team where if a coach was leaving, up through the HC, there was a competent replacement in place? An interviewing process that would help find the best person? I don't think that's the case.

There is no one in this organization in my opinion other than maybe Tom Gamble who has anywhere near the experience or ability to be the football executive the 49ers need at this time.

I'm not saying that you can't be a very good scout or rise through the ranks.

I think you're creating a false dichotomy that isn't there in my original post.

However, if you read the responsibilities of GMs, they're more than just a Scout-in-Chief and easily found. They're more than just great on draft day.

::hug::

Hey Jed! You wanna sell PSL's for a new stadium?

We fans will have to check the film...........

Originally posted by NinerGM:


Yes, GMs may have rose up by being great scouts. No one is denying this at all. However, you need more than just the ability to be a scout and a businessman, you need to know the game a bit and understand how coaches affect the process. You need to understand if someone just shows up with glossies of plays they've put together doesn't necessarily makes them an offensive genius.

::double hug::

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakami/2010/12/06/singletary-presser-uncertain-about-qb-and-firing-rumors-if-its-true-its-true/

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Source: The 49ers have begun the front-office housecleaning that Eddie DeBartolo hinted about last week, possibly with a VP-level non-footbal exec (marketing or PR) who will be leaving as soon as today. There are apparently more exec-departures to come.

Lisa Lang

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2010/12/06/lisa-lang-steps-down-as-49ers-pr-chief.html

Originally posted by always49ers:
Lisa Lang

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2010/12/06/lisa-lang-steps-down-as-49ers-pr-chief.html

Ok, that's a non-football start. I just hope they don't start firing people intil they have someone in mind to replace like they've done in the past or we'll have be left with Parag as our only front office exec.

Originally posted by skibeerski:

Originally posted by always49ers:
Lisa Lang

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2010/12/06/lisa-lang-steps-down-as-49ers-pr-chief.html

Ok, that's a non-football start. I just hope they don't start firing people intil they have someone in mind to replace like they've done in the past or we'll have be left with Parag as our only front office exec.

who the hell is she? she has no responsibility for churning out the product that loses every week

Originally posted by kujon11:

Originally posted by skibeerski:

Originally posted by always49ers:
Lisa Lang

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2010/12/06/lisa-lang-steps-down-as-49ers-pr-chief.html

Ok, that's a non-football start. I just hope they don't start firing people intil they have someone in mind to replace like they've done in the past or we'll have be left with Parag as our only front office exec.

who the hell is she? she has no responsibility for churning out the product that loses every week

You know when the sky is dark and cloudy, then a you notice a little wet spot on the sidewalk? She's that little wet spot.

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by kujon11:

Originally posted by skibeerski:

Originally posted by always49ers:
Lisa Lang

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2010/12/06/lisa-lang-steps-down-as-49ers-pr-chief.html

Ok, that's a non-football start. I just hope they don't start firing people intil they have someone in mind to replace like they've done in the past or we'll have be left with Parag as our only front office exec.

who the hell is she? she has no responsibility for churning out the product that loses every week

You know when the sky is dark and cloudy, then a you notice a little wet spot on the sidewalk? She's that little wet spot.

That shouldn't be turning me on should it?

Originally posted by skibeerski:

Originally posted by Wodwo:

Originally posted by kujon11:

Originally posted by skibeerski:

Originally posted by always49ers:
Lisa Lang

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2010/12/06/lisa-lang-steps-down-as-49ers-pr-chief.html

Ok, that's a non-football start. I just hope they don't start firing people intil they have someone in mind to replace like they've done in the past or we'll have be left with Parag as our only front office exec.

who the hell is she? she has no responsibility for churning out the product that loses every week

You know when the sky is dark and cloudy, then a you notice a little wet spot on the sidewalk? She's that little wet spot.

That shouldn't be turning me on should it?

no kiddin. somethin about lisa+wetspot...

Originally posted by D_Niner:

Originally posted by skibeerski:
Did anyone else catch an interview with Eddie D ( I can't remember th source) where he stated the Niners were lacking solid football people up top and that wholesale changes were coming to the niners? I'm assuming and praying that means a proven GM, who will in turn hire a solid coach. As John McVay was being announced to the crowd during the Bucs game (to a sparse applause by the way for some reason) I coulodn't help but think about how solid the front office was during that five Superbowl run. McVay was there from 1980 to 1996 and never got the praise he deserved. This niner team needs someone like McVay right now! Please Eddie D, talk to your little protege Jed and stear him in the right direction.

One good thing to come out of the MaC/Sing failures is that no fan is going to be irate about Jed cleaning house after this year. There will be no looking back and wondering what if?

We gave Sing his shot. Alex was given more time here than anyone else would have given him. We don't have a GM. Most can take or leave our OC and DC. Most position coaches have been here for years and have not really blossomed.

Jed is free to make any and all changes in the world and us as the fans are more than happy to accept them; in fact, were demanding them!

there apparently seems to be several views differing between eddie and jed and maybe rightly so. but even with the fail-hire of singletary, there's actually more similarities than you may think. this is just to put thing in perspective:

Ed Debartolo Jr. has changed a lot since he became the president of the 49ers. He came into the situation naive and starry-eyed, believed everything that Joe Thomas told him, but he has lost that naivete since. He was not at all prepared for the buffeting he would get from the media and fans, but he's accepted it. He admits he knew nothing about an NFL operation before he got involved, but he has studied other clubs since. He now realizes that Joe Thomas's way is not the only way.

The fact is, Thomas embarrassed the Debartolos.

He sold them on the fact that it would take a rebuilding job with the 49ers, but I doubt they realized it would more resemble a demolition. In two years under Thomas, the 49ers have gone from 8-6 to 5-9 to 2-14, the worst in their history. Thomas hired two coaches who were mistakes, Ken Meyer and Pete McCulley, before settling on Fred O'Conner, who seems to be a good choice, based on what he has done in the final seven games this season. Thomas has gotten rid of players who have been of value to the team - one example was linebacker Dave Washington, who played for Detroit against the 49ers Sunday - without getting much in return in his frenzy to overturn the team.

Worse, he has alienated the fans in the area. He is totally oblivious of public relations, and he has no sense of humor about himself, as became painfully obvious when he ordered the "Joe thomas is to blame" banner removed during a home game. He believes that a winning is the only important thing, but he isn't winning.

-Glenn Dickey 1978 San Francisco Chronicle

Originally posted by kujon11:

Originally posted by skibeerski:

Originally posted by always49ers:
Lisa Lang

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2010/12/06/lisa-lang-steps-down-as-49ers-pr-chief.html

Ok, that's a non-football start. I just hope they don't start firing people intil they have someone in mind to replace like they've done in the past or we'll have be left with Parag as our only front office exec.

who the hell is she? she has no responsibility for churning out the product that loses every week

She was the head-honcho of the public relations dept. for the 49ers, and shifted to stadium relations. -A source close to her family (in another topic) speculates that she's gonna be taking her entire PR/Stadium relations team with her.

So it seems logical that Jed is going to bring in some new marketing people for the stadium project. -It's going to be really interesting in January, Jed's gonna be rooting out a lot of meaningless VPs in the management/PR/Sales departments.

In fact, expect more employees/personnel people to resign within the next 4 weeks, to possibly get a head start (on getting a new job) before the the 'house-cleaning' process begins.

Originally posted by SnakePlissken:

Originally posted by kujon11:

Originally posted by skibeerski:

Originally posted by always49ers:
Lisa Lang

http://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2010/12/06/lisa-lang-steps-down-as-49ers-pr-chief.html

Ok, that's a non-football start. I just hope they don't start firing people intil they have someone in mind to replace like they've done in the past or we'll have be left with Parag as our only front office exec.

who the hell is she? she has no responsibility for churning out the product that loses every week

She was the head-honcho of the public relations dept. for the 49ers, and shifted to stadium relations. -A source close to her family (in another topic) speculates that she's gonna be taking her entire PR/Stadium relations team with her.

So it seems logical that Jed is going to bring in some new marketing people for the stadium project. -It's going to be really interesting in January, Jed's gonna be rooting out a lot of meaningless VPs in the management/PR/Sales departments.

In fact, expect more employees/personnel people to resign within the next 4 weeks, to possibly get a head start (on getting a new job) before the the 'house-cleaning' process begins.

I'd be really curious to see how many executive changes there have been in the past few years. Seems like a lot. This also makes me wonder how the stadium is coming along. There sure hasn't been a whole lot going on since the completion date was set back another year. At this pace we'll likely have a new stadium by 2020.

Originally posted by skibeerski:
At this pace we'll likely have a new stadium by 2020.

You know what they sayt about hindsight...

~Ceadder

I like Baalke as a personnel guy, but there's a lot more to the job than the draft. Nothing against Trent, but the Yorks have gotten by (so to speak) on the cheap...hiring inexperienced and/or over-the-hill (i.e. Erickson) coaches and no true GM's. I think there is something to what Eddie D's saying or he wouldn't say it. He's pretty close to Jed...they talk all the time. If he says Jed's learned a lot in the last two seasons and is prepared to make some bold decisions and not look back, then I take him at his word. The way to do that is hire an experienced, topflight GM. Then, let that new GM hire his coach...it's got to be somebody he can feel sympatico with, not someone Jed hires. It's time to pay the piper...and if Eddie D says Jed can and will do that, it's good enough for me.