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Originally posted by excelsior:
Young, Wusweel ad Natral, just save your breath. Your careers as schoolyard bullies ended when you were kicked out of school. It doesn't work here ... just move on.
Originally posted by excelsior:
Getting tired of Alex Smith comments, then please indulge me this:
I looked at Alex playing against NO, PHIL, and OAK, which are the 2nd, 13th, and 4th ranked teams in pass defense this year, respectively. Alex's average non-weighted QB rating against these teams is 87.4. There are 27 QBs who have also played against these three teams this year, and their non-weighted QB ratings average 78.7.
Therefore, it shows that despite the handicaps of dealing with Sing, OC, OL and receiver issues, Alex still averaged playing better against these teams that are tough to pass against than the other QBs who played them this year.
This is why I contend that Alex is not trash; he can be a very decent QB if he played on a team that supported him to the degree that most of the other good QBs in this league enjoy.
Originally posted by excelsior:
Gee, it looks like my finger missed a key. You are always so kind and courteous, especially gracious toward your favorite player, Alex. It would be terribly uncalled for to insult you, even if it were inadvertant.
Originally posted by SJniner7:
QB - We may keep Nate and Troy, but Alex and Carr are gone for sure.
RB - Westbrook is gone, Norris needs to be
TE - I wouldn't be upset if they traded Vernon. He still makes toooooo many mistakes
WR - I would be okay with only keeping Crabs and Ziegler. Morgan is easily replaceable with 3rd rounder or later. Williams will likely stick around. Ginn may stick around too
OL - Wragge, Sims need to go.
ST - all likely staying
DL - Aubrayo and Evans can leave.
LB - bye bye Parys and LaBoy. Spikes may retire
CB - Clements cost to much
S - Goldson can leave, Taylor will probably jet too (or is he on PS?)
With all of that, I could see about 12-18 players from our current 53 leaving or being traded. Considering we are no better than last year, it may be a good time to really shake things up! We need to draft in this order QB, CB, OG, WR, RB (speedy).
Originally posted by SJniner7:
QB - We may keep Nate and Troy, but Alex and Carr are gone for sure.
RB - Westbrook is gone, Norris needs to be
TE - I wouldn't be upset if they traded Vernon. He still makes toooooo many mistakes
WR - I would be okay with only keeping Crabs and Ziegler. Morgan is easily replaceable with 3rd rounder or later. Williams will likely stick around. Ginn may stick around too
OL - Wragge, Sims need to go.
ST - all likely staying
DL - Aubrayo and Evans can leave.
LB - bye bye Parys and LaBoy. Spikes may retire
CB - Clements cost to much
S - Goldson can leave, Taylor will probably jet too (or is he on PS?)
With all of that, I could see about 12-18 players from our current 53 leaving or being traded. Considering we are no better than last year, it may be a good time to really shake things up! We need to draft in this order QB, CB, OG, WR, RB (speedy).
Originally posted by leakyfausett:Originally posted by SJniner7:
QB - We may keep Nate and Troy, but Alex and Carr are gone for sure.
RB - Westbrook is gone, Norris needs to be
TE - I wouldn't be upset if they traded Vernon. He still makes toooooo many mistakes
WR - I would be okay with only keeping Crabs and Ziegler. Morgan is easily replaceable with 3rd rounder or later. Williams will likely stick around. Ginn may stick around too
OL - Wragge, Sims need to go.
ST - all likely staying
DL - Aubrayo and Evans can leave.
LB - bye bye Parys and LaBoy. Spikes may retire
CB - Clements cost to much
S - Goldson can leave, Taylor will probably jet too (or is he on PS?)
With all of that, I could see about 12-18 players from our current 53 leaving or being traded. Considering we are no better than last year, it may be a good time to really shake things up! We need to draft in this order QB, CB, OG, WR, RB (speedy).
Every year someone post that Wragge should go, yet he step in and play any position asked to play and always preforms pretty well. It is hard to find a guy that you feel comfortable putting in at any position on the line.
Originally posted by excelsior:
Getting tired of Alex Smith comments, then please indulge me this:
I looked at Alex playing against NO, PHIL, and OAK, which are the 2nd, 13th, and 4th ranked teams in pass defense this year, respectively. Alex's average non-weighted QB rating against these teams is 87.4. There are 27 QBs who have also played against these three teams this year, and their non-weighted QB ratings average 78.7.
Therefore, it shows that despite the handicaps of dealing with Sing, OC, OL and receiver issues, Alex still averaged playing better against these teams that are tough to pass against than the other QBs who played them this year.
This is why I contend that Alex is not trash; he can be a very decent QB if he played on a team that supported him to the degree that most of the other good QBs in this league enjoy.
Originally posted by ninersrule4:Originally posted by excelsior:
Getting tired of Alex Smith comments, then please indulge me this:
I looked at Alex playing against NO, PHIL, and OAK, which are the 2nd, 13th, and 4th ranked teams in pass defense this year, respectively. Alex's average non-weighted QB rating against these teams is 87.4. There are 27 QBs who have also played against these three teams this year, and their non-weighted QB ratings average 78.7.
Therefore, it shows that despite the handicaps of dealing with Sing, OC, OL and receiver issues, Alex still averaged playing better against these teams that are tough to pass against than the other QBs who played them this year.
This is why I contend that Alex is not trash; he can be a very decent QB if he played on a team that supported him to the degree that most of the other good QBs in this league enjoy.
JESUS FING CHRIST THERE IS A THREAD FOR THE ALEX SMITH TALK NOT EVERY THREAD NEEDS A FULL TALK ON SMITH.. Just say hes out.
Originally posted by PopeyeJonesing:
Thread should be retitled from "Player Evaluation" to:
Player Name Listing (with arguments about Alex Smith)
Originally posted by susweel:Originally posted by excelsior:
Young, Wusweel ad Natral, just save your breath. Your careers as schoolyard bullies ended when you were kicked out of school. It doesn't work here ... just move on.
That's a personal insult calling me wusweel. You should get a nice warning for that.
That kind of behavior is completely uncalled for.
Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Surprise trade: Frank Gore.
It seems likely that we're moving to an offensive-minded HC, and unless we hire Norv Turner/Billick, I do not see Frank sticking around. Mainly because he's toxic to the locker-room when he's not getting the ball enough, was a Nolan/Singletary type of guy, and has just about 2 'quality' years left in him.
-It might also be smart to give Gore some new life elsewhere at both his expense, and the expense of some quality trade acquisitions/draft picks going into 2011 (as we're going to have A LOT of holes to fill).
Originally posted by GoGiantsHumBaby:Originally posted by SnakePlissken:
Surprise trade: Frank Gore.
It seems likely that we're moving to an offensive-minded HC, and unless we hire Norv Turner/Billick, I do not see Frank sticking around. Mainly because he's toxic to the locker-room when he's not getting the ball enough, was a Nolan/Singletary type of guy, and has just about 2 'quality' years left in him.
-It might also be smart to give Gore some new life elsewhere at both his expense, and the expense of some quality trade acquisitions/draft picks going into 2011 (as we're going to have A LOT of holes to fill).
Niner Talk FTW. LMFAO.