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maybe vernon davis should look for the ball when its in the air
  • Wodwo
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Yeah... they tried. Unfortunately, Troy Smith has been exposed and can no longer roll out of the pocket to extend plays and improvise. That combined with the complete lack of an offensive line....

I do agree that the play calling was garbage, though.
He needs to "look at the film" so he can see how Troy was running for his life all game.
no sh*t they didnt. but pass plays were called and he was not nearly as effective as the two prior games. since at home we cant see the field, i'd like to hear from someone who was at the game to what tampas coverages looked like. was troy forced to check-down most of the times because their zones so tight?
Originally posted by Wodwo:
Yeah... they tried. Unfortunately, Troy Smith has been exposed and can no longer roll out of the pocket to extend plays and improvise. That combined with the complete lack of an offensive line....

I do agree that the play calling was garbage, though.

he did run for it a couple of times but he scrambled way more often which says a lot about still struggling on the line.
Originally posted by SanFranAddic:
He needs to "look at the film" so he can see how Troy was running for his life all game.

Our offensive line played terrible. What a joke.
Didn't see many seam route type passes - except for that one late in the game.

Like a previous poster said, what were the Tampa coverages like? Can't really tell from watching on TV. But I would guess that they risked that Troy Smith can't make throws down the middle of the field consistently while in the pocket, and Troy Smith and our coaching staff proved them right.

[ Edited by Bluefalcon61 on Nov 21, 2010 at 18:40:34 ]
Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
Didn't see many seam route type passes - except for that one late in the game.

Like a previous poster said, what were the Tampa coverages like? Can't really tell from watching on TV. But I would guess that they risked that Troy Smith can't make throws down the middle of the field consistently while in the pocket, and Troy Smith and our coaching staff proved them right.

Their safeties were sitting in lounge chairs about 20 yards down the field. We threw the ball over 15 yards ONCE before we were down 21 and there were less than 5 minutes left in the game.
Well anything other than what we did wouldve been worth a shot...
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
Didn't see many seam route type passes - except for that one late in the game.

Like a previous poster said, what were the Tampa coverages like? Can't really tell from watching on TV. But I would guess that they risked that Troy Smith can't make throws down the middle of the field consistently while in the pocket, and Troy Smith and our coaching staff proved them right.

Their safeties were sitting in lounge chairs about 20 yards down the field. We threw the ball over 15 yards ONCE before we were down 21 and there were less than 5 minutes left in the game.

Did it look like there was space in the middle from 20 yards in for our tight ends and/or slot receivers to operate as long as Troy Smith could deliver the ball? Quick slants, hooks? Three-step drops from Troy Smith? Or even those funky quick jump passes that Jeff Garcia made all the time?

It seems to me that this coaching staff fell for Tampa's past performances against the run and reverted to the conservative "run Frank Gore" up the middle offense. Tampa's D catered to Mike Singletary's philosophy and he set the guidelines to Mike Johnson for this week's gameplan. "Keep it simple, run Frank Gore."

If the coaching staff even gave thought to Tampa maybe rolling its coverages deep and to the outside, they may have conceded that Troy Smith, due to his lack of height, would still have problems passing over the Tampa middle, instead of figuring out creative ways to attack it.
Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
Didn't see many seam route type passes - except for that one late in the game.

Like a previous poster said, what were the Tampa coverages like? Can't really tell from watching on TV. But I would guess that they risked that Troy Smith can't make throws down the middle of the field consistently while in the pocket, and Troy Smith and our coaching staff proved them right.

Their safeties were sitting in lounge chairs about 20 yards down the field. We threw the ball over 15 yards ONCE before we were down 21 and there were less than 5 minutes left in the game.

Did it look like there was space in the middle from 20 yards in for our tight ends and/or slot receivers to operate as long as Troy Smith could deliver the ball? Quick slants, hooks? Three-step drops from Troy Smith? Or even those funky quick jump passes that Jeff Garcia made all the time?

It seems to me that this coaching staff fell for Tampa's past performances against the run and reverted to the conservative "run Frank Gore" up the middle offense. Tampa's D catered to Mike Singletary's philosophy and he set the guidelines to Mike Johnson for this week's gameplan. "Keep it simple, run Frank Gore."

If the coaching staff even gave thought to Tampa maybe rolling its coverages deep and to the outside, they may have conceded that Troy Smith, due to his lack of height, would still have problems passing over the Tampa middle, instead of figuring out creative ways to attack it.

This is generally what good coaching staffs do, no?
the offensive lines performance was damn near atrocious.
Originally posted by horsecore:
Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
Originally posted by chico49erfan:
Originally posted by Bluefalcon61:
Didn't see many seam route type passes - except for that one late in the game.

Like a previous poster said, what were the Tampa coverages like? Can't really tell from watching on TV. But I would guess that they risked that Troy Smith can't make throws down the middle of the field consistently while in the pocket, and Troy Smith and our coaching staff proved them right.

Their safeties were sitting in lounge chairs about 20 yards down the field. We threw the ball over 15 yards ONCE before we were down 21 and there were less than 5 minutes left in the game.

Did it look like there was space in the middle from 20 yards in for our tight ends and/or slot receivers to operate as long as Troy Smith could deliver the ball? Quick slants, hooks? Three-step drops from Troy Smith? Or even those funky quick jump passes that Jeff Garcia made all the time?

It seems to me that this coaching staff fell for Tampa's past performances against the run and reverted to the conservative "run Frank Gore" up the middle offense. Tampa's D catered to Mike Singletary's philosophy and he set the guidelines to Mike Johnson for this week's gameplan. "Keep it simple, run Frank Gore."

If the coaching staff even gave thought to Tampa maybe rolling its coverages deep and to the outside, they may have conceded that Troy Smith, due to his lack of height, would still have problems passing over the Tampa middle, instead of figuring out creative ways to attack it.

This is generally what good coaching staffs do, no?

As a baseline, yes - but it more often than not, becomes a trap, because you have to take into account that the other team knows its obvious weaknesses and will try to take steps to strengthen it.

Bill Walsh wasn't famous for only exploiting other team's known weaknesses. He exploited weaknesses the other team didn't know it had, or exploited the part of another team's scheme where they were deliberately taking risks.
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