Lacking enthusiam about Troy Smith

Originally posted by SFGem:
...I bet baltimore is feeling real stupid right about now.

This is not to argue w/your opinion or post; more of an FYI...
before the weird chest ailment/sickness happened, Troy, was
slated to be the starter in B'more.

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
god I hope he doesn't save Singletary's job.

I have a weird feeling he will. If we make the playoffs bc of Troy , the overall improved team play will look good for Sing.

Sing is a young coach who COULD improve as well. He did make the big decision to start Troy over Carr, even though Carr was the backup[ all year long and has more experience.

With that, why is Carr even on the team?

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
god I hope he doesn't save Singletary's job.

I have a weird feeling he will. If we make the playoffs bc of Troy , the overall improved team play will look good for Sing.

Sing is a young coach who COULD improve as well. He did make the big decision to start Troy over Carr, even though Carr was the backup[ all year long and has more experience.

With that, why is Carr even on the team?

In case Hell freezes over.

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
god I hope he doesn't save Singletary's job.

I think he does, Jed has come out and defended Sing, with a few more wins Sing will get himself another year.

Originally posted by RedWaltz24:

Originally posted by blizzuntz:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
god I hope he doesn't save Singletary's job.

I have a weird feeling he will. If we make the playoffs bc of Troy , the overall improved team play will look good for Sing.

Sing is a young coach who COULD improve as well. He did make the big decision to start Troy over Carr, even though Carr was the backup[ all year long and has more experience.

With that, why is Carr even on the team?

In case Hell freezes over.

as funny as this is, I think you are right.

Especially since Sing is really religious

I'm just happy that we have a QB that gives us a chance to win under the negative circumstances this team has weekly, namely offensive line and Coach Singletary. Honestly because of that Troy Smith or a player like him is perfect for what we are cause he is able to overcome them.

Also we don't need a pocket passing prototype QB to win games and be a playoff level team year after year. A guy like Troy Smith can be good enough for this team if we improve and/or add some pieces like a speed RB, cover CB, and another WR(red zone specialist).

Originally posted by Arkie_49er:
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Also we don't need a pocket passing prototype QB to win games and be a playoff level team year after year. A guy like Troy Smith can be good enough for this team if we improve and/or add some pieces like a speed RB, cover CB, and another WR(red zone specialist).

Whoa, whoa, whoa, the thought of having Troy Smith as our starting QB "year after year" is still a pretty dangerous proposition. Let's wait out the rest of the season to evaluate him. This is his job interview and so far he's passing with flying colors. I suspect that at worse, he could be at least be a stopgap for a young QB taken in the draft.

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
god I hope he doesn't save Singletary's job.

I think he does, Jed has come out and defended Sing, with a few more wins Sing will get himself another year.

I don't think sing can do anything to save his job now. Even if we make the playoffs I think he gets fired.

Originally posted by ninerfan4life:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
god I hope he doesn't save Singletary's job.

I think he does, Jed has come out and defended Sing, with a few more wins Sing will get himself another year.

I don't think sing can do anything to save his job now. Even if we make the playoffs I think he gets fired.

He can point the finger (at Alex) and get himself another year, if we finish with a better record then last year he will be safe.

Originally posted by binary2nd:

Originally posted by Arkie_49er:
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Also we don't need a pocket passing prototype QB to win games and be a playoff level team year after year. A guy like Troy Smith can be good enough for this team if we improve and/or add some pieces like a speed RB, cover CB, and another WR(red zone specialist).

Whoa, whoa, whoa, the thought of having Troy Smith as our starting QB "year after year" is still a pretty dangerous proposition. Let's wait out the rest of the season to evaluate him. This is his job interview and so far he's passing with flying colors. I suspect that at worse, he could be at least be a stopgap for a young QB taken in the draft.

Oh no I'm not getting ahead of myself. I'm just stating that you don't need Payton Manning type to be a good team. That has been proven throughout the league. It would be nice to have one but it isn't necessary.

Originally posted by binary2nd:

Originally posted by Arkie_49er:
I

Also we don't need a pocket passing prototype QB to win games and be a playoff level team year after year. A guy like Troy Smith can be good enough for this team if we improve and/or add some pieces like a speed RB, cover CB, and another WR(red zone specialist).

Whoa, whoa, whoa, the thought of having Troy Smith as our starting QB "year after year" is still a pretty dangerous proposition. Let's wait out the rest of the season to evaluate him. This is his job interview and so far he's passing with flying colors. I suspect that at worse, he could be at least be a stopgap for a young QB taken in the draft.

Passing with flying colors? Did he move the chains on a single third down? The offense that he led only scored 20 points in 4 quarters. You don't think Alex Smith can score 20 points? Sure his 4th quarter looked good, but if he had played better in the third quarter (I forget how many 3 and outs we had), the heroics would not have been needed in the 4th.

Troy is a boom or bust player. You either get 30 yards a pop, or 3 and out. In all fairness, that might not be a bad option to have. With the risk of 30 yard completions, teams will be afraid to stack the box on Frank Gore, opening up running lanes for him. There are things to like about Troy, but let's not go overboard here. His play was a C. He got 20 points and didn't throw any interceptions. He overcame penalties by his team. He made stupid plays that pushed the 49ers out of field goal range. He held the ball too long, making it more likely for his OT to hold or surrender sacks.

Originally posted by fryet:

Originally posted by binary2nd:

Originally posted by Arkie_49er:
I

Also we don't need a pocket passing prototype QB to win games and be a playoff level team year after year. A guy like Troy Smith can be good enough for this team if we improve and/or add some pieces like a speed RB, cover CB, and another WR(red zone specialist).

Whoa, whoa, whoa, the thought of having Troy Smith as our starting QB "year after year" is still a pretty dangerous proposition. Let's wait out the rest of the season to evaluate him. This is his job interview and so far he's passing with flying colors. I suspect that at worse, he could be at least be a stopgap for a young QB taken in the draft.

Passing with flying colors? Did he move the chains on a single third down? The offense that he led only scored 20 points in 4 quarters. You don't think Alex Smith can score 20 points? Sure his 4th quarter looked good, but if he had played better in the third quarter (I forget how many 3 and outs we had), the heroics would not have been needed in the 4th.

Troy is a boom or bust player. You either get 30 yards a pop, or 3 and out. In all fairness, that might not be a bad option to have. With the risk of 30 yard completions, teams will be afraid to stack the box on Frank Gore, opening up running lanes for him. There are things to like about Troy, but let's not go overboard here. His play was a C. He got 20 points and didn't throw any interceptions. He overcame penalties by his team. He made stupid plays that pushed the 49ers out of field goal range. He held the ball too long, making it more likely for his OT to hold or surrender sacks.

Troy Smith's performance was NOT a C. It was at least an A. He basically put the team on his back and willed it to victory. Everything else you said, the third down conversions and such, that's exactly why we have to wait and see with Troy.

He's going to have to show us he can get it done from the pocket, we have no Andy Reid drawing up plays for him, he's going to have to convert on third downs. This is exactly why claiming he's even worth re-signing now is jumping the gun, there is still a long way to go.

Troy played beautifully. We are in the NFC West race. This are slowly looking up.

Originally posted by fryet:

Originally posted by binary2nd:

Originally posted by Arkie_49er:
I

Also we don't need a pocket passing prototype QB to win games and be a playoff level team year after year. A guy like Troy Smith can be good enough for this team if we improve and/or add some pieces like a speed RB, cover CB, and another WR(red zone specialist).

Whoa, whoa, whoa, the thought of having Troy Smith as our starting QB "year after year" is still a pretty dangerous proposition. Let's wait out the rest of the season to evaluate him. This is his job interview and so far he's passing with flying colors. I suspect that at worse, he could be at least be a stopgap for a young QB taken in the draft.

Passing with flying colors? Did he move the chains on a single third down? The offense that he led only scored 20 points in 4 quarters. You don't think Alex Smith can score 20 points? Sure his 4th quarter looked good, but if he had played better in the third quarter (I forget how many 3 and outs we had), the heroics would not have been needed in the 4th.

Troy is a boom or bust player. You either get 30 yards a pop, or 3 and out. In all fairness, that might not be a bad option to have. With the risk of 30 yard completions, teams will be afraid to stack the box on Frank Gore, opening up running lanes for him. There are things to like about Troy, but let's not go overboard here. His play was a C. He got 20 points and didn't throw any interceptions. He overcame penalties by his team. He made stupid plays that pushed the 49ers out of field goal range. He held the ball too long, making it more likely for his OT to hold or surrender sacks.

Actually -- he was responsible for five touchdowns -- if you count the three that called back on penalties that were not his fault.

Grade his play a "C" if you want. The rest of us who live in this world called Reality see it a tad differently.

Bottom line? Troy won the game. He's going to win a few more before it's all said and done.

I hope you enjoy the ride. I know I will.

Troy Smith has got the 49ers fans coming out in Las Cruces, New Mexico.
I'm walking around the NMSU campus this morning with my 49er hoodie on and I hear people yelling at me "Go 49ers"! So I yell back "playoffs here we come"!
This is the kind of hoodie I've been wearing for the past two weeks.....

Troy Smith is getting this city enthusied!