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Originally posted by CrankDatCrabtree:
This was.....

10% LUCK
20%SKILL
15% Concentrated Power of Will
5% Pleasure
50% PAIN

And 100% Reason to remember the name!!! PYAAHHH



Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by mayo49:
At least he put the ball in play. If that was Alex he would have thrown it out of bounds. At least Troy made something happen.

B.S. That was a terrible pass and Alex has made his fair share of them. We (Troy) got lucky, and I'll take it. But lets call a spade a spade, that was a terrible pass that we got lucky with.

if it was a terrible pass it would have been tiped and intercepted or thrown high or low to be incomplete ! it was a great pass ! that resulted TD !
If Alex would have thrown it and it got picked half of the people here would say oh well it's no different than a punt like they did on the Ginn interception.

Even though it was a horrible read on Smith's behalf it was the most accurate pass he could have thrown in that situation. That's gotta count for something.
[ Edited by tjd808185 on Nov 1, 2010 at 9:41 AM ]
It was lucky.

No fan will argue with it for it to be done in any other way, we'll take what we can get.

Just don't rely on that happening again anytime soon.
He had Champ Bailey and Dawkins (I believe) guarding him and Delanie just made a great move on the ball.

Again, simply luck, but we'll take all the luck we get from here on out.
he told him to go deeper and thought he could get it there. He under threw a little cause of the falling back part and ended up getting lucky.
Originally posted by jta854:
Originally posted by mayo49:
At least he put the ball in play. If that was Alex he would have thrown it out of bounds. At least Troy made something happen.

B.S. That was a terrible pass and Alex has made his fair share of them. We (Troy) got lucky, and I'll take it. But lets call a spade a spade, that was a terrible pass that we got lucky with.

No pass that puts us in position to score is a terrible pass(luck or not). Sometimes taking a risk is what it all comes down to(Brees does it all the time).
[ Edited by prime21 on Nov 1, 2010 at 10:10 AM ]
Originally posted by ttime1:
Look He direct Walker to go deeper and put the ball on the money!!!! Where no defender could catch it.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81bbfa07/Delanie-Walker-38-yard-catch

Nice. One of the worst throws/decisions an NFL QB has ever made now = skill.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Look He direct Walker to go deeper and put the ball on the money!!!! Where no defender could catch it.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81bbfa07/Delanie-Walker-38-yard-catch

Nice. One of the worst throws/decisions an NFL QB has ever made now = skill.

It did for Montana. Facing presure, throwing off of his back foot to a spot where only his man could catch the ball. Am I comparing T.Smith to Montana? Yes, on this play. He made something happen like Montana did and its called being a playmaker.

And to even think "One of the worst throws/decisions an NFL QB has ever made," when it was completed and ultimately resulted in a TD is beyond enough to revoke your 49ers fan card. Even the most basic football fan would not resort to such rhetoric.
players that attempt to make a play have the chance at least for luck to win out.

When Alex is flushed out rolling to the right he usually keeps running to the sideline without looking up field then at the last second throws a ball down the right sideline---usually out of bounds. Whenever I think of Alex this is what I think about---since I see that occurrence every game--and many times in every game.

Even though Troy Smith was rushed now and then--I never really felt he was under duress like we see with Alex most of the time.

I think Troy has earned another start against the Rams.
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Look He direct Walker to go deeper and put the ball on the money!!!! Where no defender could catch it.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81bbfa07/Delanie-Walker-38-yard-catch

Nice. One of the worst throws/decisions an NFL QB has ever made now = skill.

It did for Montana. Facing presure, throwing off of his back foot to a spot where only his man could catch the ball. Am I comparing T.Smith to Montana? Yes, on this play. He made something happen like Montana did and its called being a playmaker.

WTF? Yes, Montana threw it where only his man could catch the ball. It was perfect. Smith threw the ball 50 yards off his back foot to a covered (blanketed, watch where they are when you can first see Dawkins and Walker, Dawkins is on top of him) with help from Champ Bailey. NOTHING about the fact that the defenders didn't make the play they would make 90% of the time in the same situation has any bearing on Troy's decision or throw. Just because it went for a positive doesn't mean it wasn't a horrible decision. That is the definition of LUCK. When you make a poor decision and it still turns out with a good result.
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Originally posted by SanDiego49er:
The big bomb play was just lucky as hell. That could be an interception 9 out of 10 times. He really floated it up there and off his back foot and the throw was late. It was just a miracle it got completed. If he throws like that in future weeks there will be interceptions.

congratulations on repeating exactly what the announcers said and making it sound like your own genius.


Football (and life) is a series of attempts and successes and failures. there is no such thing as a 9/10 times rule. Just talking heads on TV.
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Look He direct Walker to go deeper and put the ball on the money!!!! Where no defender could catch it.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81bbfa07/Delanie-Walker-38-yard-catch

Nice. One of the worst throws/decisions an NFL QB has ever made now = skill.

It did for Montana. Facing presure, throwing off of his back foot to a spot where only his man could catch the ball. Am I comparing T.Smith to Montana? Yes, on this play. He made something happen like Montana did and its called being a playmaker.

WTF? Yes, Montana threw it where only his man could catch the ball. It was perfect. Smith threw the ball 50 yards off his back foot to a covered (blanketed, watch where they are when you can first see Dawkins and Walker, Dawkins is on top of him) with help from Champ Bailey. NOTHING about the fact that the defenders didn't make the play they would make 90% of the time in the same situation has any bearing on Troy's decision or throw. Just because it went for a positive doesn't mean it wasn't a horrible decision. That is the definition of LUCK. When you make a poor decision and it still turns out with a good result.

That really was not a poor decision--it was 3rd down i think---so getting sacked or throwing it away means a punt anyways---taking the throw would mean a punt if incomplete----if intercepted--that would probably be like a good punt--and if caught--with the team trailing 10-3 and needing something to happen---good would come--and it did.
Originally posted by sfninerfanMax:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Originally posted by Gavintech:
Originally posted by ttime1:
Look He direct Walker to go deeper and put the ball on the money!!!! Where no defender could catch it.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d81bbfa07/Delanie-Walker-38-yard-catch

Nice. One of the worst throws/decisions an NFL QB has ever made now = skill.

It did for Montana. Facing presure, throwing off of his back foot to a spot where only his man could catch the ball. Am I comparing T.Smith to Montana? Yes, on this play. He made something happen like Montana did and its called being a playmaker.

WTF? Yes, Montana threw it where only his man could catch the ball. It was perfect. Smith threw the ball 50 yards off his back foot to a covered (blanketed, watch where they are when you can first see Dawkins and Walker, Dawkins is on top of him) with help from Champ Bailey. NOTHING about the fact that the defenders didn't make the play they would make 90% of the time in the same situation has any bearing on Troy's decision or throw. Just because it went for a positive doesn't mean it wasn't a horrible decision. That is the definition of LUCK. When you make a poor decision and it still turns out with a good result.

That really was not a poor decision--it was 3rd down i think---so getting sacked or throwing it away means a punt anyways---taking the throw would mean a punt if incomplete----if intercepted--that would probably be like a good punt--and if caught--with the team trailing 10-3 and needing something to happen---good would come--and it did.

I'm sure that went into Troy's decision making process in the split second he threw the ball. Sure, you're right, if intercepted it may have ended up being like a good punt, but it may not have and could have been a lot worse.
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
Originally posted by mayo49:
Originally posted by GolittaCamper:
That throw showed a lot of different things, strength, confidence, skill, accuracy, and LUCK!

When I say luck it is not to belittle Troy's other attributes, but rather to point out a HUGE difference between the two Smiths.

I have said this before about Alex Smith, people always point to his stats to show he is not awful, that statistically he is average, or better. Alex lacks the intangible elements, confidence, leadership, and luck.

I saw all the intangibles on display yesterday, and it was great! Troy may or may not pan out but yesterday, his courage, skill, and luck gave me confidence in him and this team, and I an sure our players felt it too!

Go T Smith!

If anything, we found ourselves a nice backup Qb that is still only 26.

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Troll Alert? What are you calling me a troll for?

Look pal we all know that you are a sleeper cell troll programmed to start trolling at 8033 posts. Be gone.
Alex Smith would have banked it off the right cross bar and hit walker in the endzone!

A. Smith has the skillz...!
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