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  • BobS
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Originally posted by TonyStarks:
Throw in T.Smith and Nate.

Show us that our OLINE is the problem.

If it isn't well, sh*t ,man.

We have a lot more problems than that. On the other hand do you ever notice how Qbs like Aaron Rodgers make good throws while running for their life? Protection breaks down for Smith and he ends up sacked or throwing it away.
  • Hopper
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Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Daniners:
First, you are correct. At this point, winning does hurt us. Also, I am amazed at the lack of football IQ reflected in some of these posts...

Rule #1: If you do not have a franchise QB, you get one. You very, very rarely get a franchise QB in FA . You need to draft one. Smith is not even a starting caliber QB at this point (after six horrendous years).

Next, we will have a new coaching staff next year, and ALL remnants of the Singletary/Nolan regimes will be expunged (i.e. Alex Smith).


Never hurts a young team to learn how to win. Tanking? That's for losers. Perpetual losers.

When you don't win anything in 8 years you become perpetual losers.
Originally posted by Daniners:
First, you are correct. At this point, winning does hurt us. Also, I am amazed at the lack of football IQ reflected in some of these posts...

Rule #1: If you do not have a franchise QB, you get one. You very, very rarely get a franchise QB in FA . You need to draft one. Smith is not even a starting caliber QB at this point (after six horrendous years).

Next, we will have a new coaching staff next year, and ALL remnants of the Singletary/Nolan regimes will be expunged (i.e. Alex Smith).


Vick will be out there next year.
Originally posted by Hopper:
Originally posted by English:
Originally posted by Daniners:
First, you are correct. At this point, winning does hurt us. Also, I am amazed at the lack of football IQ reflected in some of these posts...

Rule #1: If you do not have a franchise QB, you get one. You very, very rarely get a franchise QB in FA . You need to draft one. Smith is not even a starting caliber QB at this point (after six horrendous years).

Next, we will have a new coaching staff next year, and ALL remnants of the Singletary/Nolan regimes will be expunged (i.e. Alex Smith).


Never hurts a young team to learn how to win. Tanking? That's for losers. Perpetual losers.

When you don't win anything in 8 years you become perpetual losers.

More like inevitable
only the yorks hurt us
I disagree. We don't want people to be quitting this team. We need to keep spirits high, finish strong, and kick ass in 2011. God, I can't believe I'm having to write this after Week 7! This was suppose to be our year!!!!!
The only way i would like for us to start winning is if we get Nate Davis in here & he makes a dramatic impact on the team by winning out the rest of the season
if he looks very sharp the rest of the season maybe there wont be a need to get a top pick in the draft to draft a QB.

but if Smith comes back in & lead us to 3 or 4 more victories i say no thanks just dump the rest of the season to secure a top 3 pick in the draft

besides all that it wouldnt be worth it to win out anymore

Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
The only way i would like for us to start winning is if we get Nate Davis in here & he makes a dramatic impact on the team by winning out the rest of the season
if he looks very sharp the rest of the season maybe there wont be a need to get a top pick in the draft to draft a QB.


but if Smith comes back in & lead us to 3 or 4 more victories i say no thanks just dump the rest of the season to secure a top 3 pick in the draft

besides all that it wouldnt be worth it to win out anymore


This!
Originally posted by mayo49:
I know I'm going to get criticized for this, but winning games at this point will only take us further away from drafting Luck or Locker. I know it sucks right now, but getting into the best position to draft the best Qb is the most important thing at this point. Finishing 7-9 and out of the playoffs will do nothing for us. I hope the football gods shines down on us this season and gives us the best case scenerio moving foward.

of course you are. stupid to lose just for a draft pic. and what kind of players would just give up. i wouldnt want those kind of players. just like i wouldnt hang with a fan that hopes for failure.

have a nice day.
These topics are annoying.

Everybody who wants to tank to get Luck doesn't understand the one major flaw in their plan.

Luck is staying in school for another year.

Also, Ryan Mallet is not a QB I want either, in the most critical time during the Alabama game, he threw 2 Int's... Not somebody I want wearing our helmet.
u guys say a QB wouldnt help but i think when singletary is fired the new coach will want his chosen QB. i dont think Alex is a bad QB, i think the preparation of this team has always been the problem but a new regime will want a new QB so this is Alex last year here i think unless they keep him and draft a new QB to replace him with once he gets ready to go (like they shouldve done with Alex) i just hope the new HC and GM arent as stupid at developing QBs as these a*****es were.
excited for the offseason now not much to look forward to
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
The only way i would like for us to start winning is if we get Nate Davis in here & he makes a dramatic impact on the team by winning out the rest of the season
if he looks very sharp the rest of the season maybe there wont be a need to get a top pick in the draft to draft a QB.

but if Smith comes back in & lead us to 3 or 4 more victories i say no thanks just dump the rest of the season to secure a top 3 pick in the draft

besides all that it wouldnt be worth it to win out anymore


So you only want to win if Nate Davis starts and we win????? So if Alex Smith's injury is that severe and he comes back and we start winning you wouldn't want that? If his injury is worse than expected and he is done for the season, Singletary feels that Troy Smith is better than Carr(lets face it we know that is the truth) and he comes in and start's winning you wouldn't want that either?
Originally posted by seeking6th:
only the yorks hurt us
Originally posted by backontop:
Originally posted by Tru2RedNGold25:
The only way i would like for us to start winning is if we get Nate Davis in here & he makes a dramatic impact on the team by winning out the rest of the season
if he looks very sharp the rest of the season maybe there wont be a need to get a top pick in the draft to draft a QB.

but if Smith comes back in & lead us to 3 or 4 more victories i say no thanks just dump the rest of the season to secure a top 3 pick in the draft

besides all that it wouldnt be worth it to win out anymore


So you only want to win if Nate Davis starts and we win????? So if Alex Smith's injury is that severe and he comes back and we start winning you wouldn't want that? If his injury is worse than expected and he is done for the season, Singletary feels that Troy Smith is better than Carr(lets face it we know that is the truth) and he comes in and start's winning you wouldn't want that either?

NATE DAVIS please!!!

Troy Smith at best will be a good career back up

i doubt he will ever become a elite QB in the NFL
it would of happen by now if he was the real deal
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