Alex's Injury?

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by 49ermark:
To all the Alex lovers, do you believe he is the answer at QB for the 49ers? Would you intrust 6 more years to him?

Simple question? yes or no? Then please give a reason on why you believe he is the answer.

Please, I just need to know why you think he is the one.

No one says that.

I've noticed that if someone says anything that isn't a blast at Smith, they are a "Smith supporter." Whether you like it or not, he is the best option we have and this won't change. Who is better on the roster? Don't tell me Nate Davis. He doesn't even know the playbook and is on the PS. Troy Smith? Come on son.

Smith isn't the future, but who do you wanna play? The blind Smith hatred clouds your mind. When that happens, you beg for a guy like David Carr to play or you think Shaun Hill is the second coming of Joe Montana. Lets draft a QB. That won't be an overnight fix, and Smith will still be the best option while the rookie gets groomed. That's the bottom line.

Last time I remembered, when Hill was the best option and probably still would be, the argument for Smith was that he has a higher ceiling.

We all know Smith is the best immediate option but he doesn't seem to be the best longterm option. Why not begin to weed all of this out and see if anyone we have could be? Opportunity does wonders for a career and Davis and Troy just need an opportunity. If they don't have what it takes, then at least we know. If there's obvious and glaring potential, then we know we have something to work on and look forward to.

We are 1-7, there is no "best" option besides finding out if anyone can give us anything...something to look forward to.

If Smith doesn't play, I would want to see Davis in there. At least he has a strong arm. But, if he doesn't know the playbook can he? Even though it might be beneficial for us to lose, it hurts my soul watching our offense be pathetic. Like when Carr came in. I at least want us to be able to complete a pass to Crabtree or VD.

I see what you are saying, and I respect that point of view. It would be intriguing to see Davis in there.

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by billbird2111:

Originally posted by AZ9erfan520:

Originally posted by billbird2111:
I do find it interesting though -- how many of Alex's supporters are so ready to ditch Carr -- when he hasn't even started Game One yet.

You know who these people are. They are the posters who call us "haters," or "not a true fan," or some other garbage.

I just find it interesting that they're willing to give Alex game after game after game after game after game to straighten it out (which he never will folks -- and that's the sad truth). Yet they're riding Carr's nvuts after two quarters of play.

Where is the consistency here? Perhaps it's the Smith supporters who are not true fans? Perhaps they are more in love with one player rather than the team itself.

Hmm....

A point to ponder....

Being a true fan has nothing to do with supporting Alex Smith. A true fan routes for their team regardless of who is in the starting lineup. A true fan's loyalty doesn't waver, ever. I think by now most 49er fans realize that Alex Smith is not the long term answer and that in the short term this team is playing the best offensive football it will until a better qb takes over. It was clear yesterday that David Carr's intangibles are not as good as Alex Smith's. I mean come on bro, a check down on 4th down from 60 yards out? Any other qb is going to drop back, step up, and throw that ball towards the end zone. Carr didn't even trust his arm to make the throw. Alex Smith gives us the best chance to win, and in the end that is what any true fan wants their team to do.

Amazing

Just amazing...Ponder that line once again. Savor it. Think about it.

Quote:
Alex Smith gives us the best chance to win

I can't believe I'm still reading this crud after the kind of El Stinko performances we've all seen out of Alex Smith. This is just as bad as Dingleberry's "we're gonna make the playoffs" rant.

No -- Alex Smith DOES NOT give us the best chance to win. He IS NOT the best QB on the roster. He IS the WORST quarterback in the entire NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE.

He is a FLOP. He is a FAILURE. He's had MULTIPLE CHANCES. He has FAILED at every opportunity.

When are you going to get this through your SKULL?

I am a better QB than Alex Smith at this point. So are you. So is everyone on this board. Carr and Nate Davis are immediate upgrades over Alex.

Put down the bammer weed. You saw Carr play yesterday, right? If you bash Smith and his play, how can you not bash Carr's play? If you don't, that is extremely hypocritical.

What is this "bammer weed" you speak of? In my day, there was Mexican and there was Humboldt. Every once in a great while -- you got Thai Stick -- but that was rare.

I guess it's this generations "Mexican." Stoners got PC though, and it's a little offensive to call it that.

Originally posted by 49ermark:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by 49ermark:
To all the Alex lovers, do you believe he is the answer at QB for the 49ers? Would you intrust 6 more years to him?

Simple question? yes or no? Then please give a reason on why you believe he is the answer.

Please, I just need to know why you think he is the one.

No one says that.

I've noticed that if someone says anything that isn't a blast at Smith, they are a "Smith supporter." Whether you like it or not, he is the best option we have and this won't change. Who is better on the roster? Don't tell me Nate Davis. He doesn't even know the playbook and is on the PS. Troy Smith? Come on son.

Smith isn't the future, but who do you wanna play? The blind Smith hatred clouds your mind. When that happens, you beg for a guy like David Carr to play or you think Shaun Hill is the second coming of Joe Montana. Lets draft a QB. That won't be an overnight fix, and Smith will still be the best option while the rookie gets groomed. That's the bottom line.

Well when you take away any other option at QB then you risk what we have now.
I knew there isn't anyone out there that thinks Smiths the long term answer. Why defend the guy then. Let him go already 6 years is enough dont you think? 1 win in 6 games the guy is a proven loser. I don't hate Smith I just wish we never drafted him in the first place -always have.

Got love for the 9ers just don't get the love for Alex don't get it at all...

Some people enjoy the truth, and honest analysis. It is a weakness, to be sure, but we just like to call things as they really are and not find a convenient scapegoat.

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Let's compare apples to apples. Against KC Alex's QB rating was 68.8. When IND played KC this year, P. Manning had a 65.0. Another example of Alex performing as well as the best QB in football against the same opponent.

lol. here come the haters with the ARE YOU COMPARING ALICE SMITH/ALEXCUSE/ALEX LEAF WITH PEYTON MANNING!?!?!!!111!! HOW DARE YOU! ALICE SMITH/ALEXCUSE/ALEX LEAF SUXORZ!

win.

If we're comparing Peyton Manning to Alex Smith, let's look at wins...career wins, there is no comparison. And don't talk about how Manning has this and that and Smith doesn't get any help. Remember, Vernon Davis told us he was better than Dallas Clark. Remember, Peyton Manning is throwing passes to a guy they pulled off the practice squad. Manning is playing with one of the worst rushing attacks in the league (IIRC last in the NFL last year) and we have Gore. And Manning is playing with a defense that can't stop JV squad running backs.

When Alex Smith can make the players around him play better instead of needing better play from the other players to succeed; when Alex Smith can overcome the shortcomings of the team and get us wins we have no business getting instead of throwing an INT or fumbling at a crucial time ending a potential game winning drive; when Alex Smith can carry the team on his back when nothing else is going right, then we can compare Alex Smith to Manning (or Brady, or whichever top QB you want).

Until then, those numbers don't mean squat to me.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by 49ermark:
To all the Alex lovers, do you believe he is the answer at QB for the 49ers? Would you intrust 6 more years to him?

Simple question? yes or no? Then please give a reason on why you believe he is the answer.

Please, I just need to know why you think he is the one.

No one says that.

I've noticed that if someone says anything that isn't a blast at Smith, they are a "Smith supporter." Whether you like it or not, he is the best option we have and this won't change. Who is better on the roster? Don't tell me Nate Davis. He doesn't even know the playbook and is on the PS. Troy Smith? Come on son.

Smith isn't the future, but who do you wanna play? The blind Smith hatred clouds your mind. When that happens, you beg for a guy like David Carr to play or you think Shaun Hill is the second coming of Joe Montana. Lets draft a QB. That won't be an overnight fix, and Smith will still be the best option while the rookie gets groomed. That's the bottom line.

Last time I remembered, when Hill was the best option and probably still would be, the argument for Smith was that he has a higher ceiling.

We all know Smith is the best immediate option but he doesn't seem to be the best longterm option. Why not begin to weed all of this out and see if anyone we have could be? Opportunity does wonders for a career and Davis and Troy just need an opportunity. If they don't have what it takes, then at least we know. If there's obvious and glaring potential, then we know we have something to work on and look forward to.

We are 1-7, there is no "best" option besides finding out if anyone can give us anything...something to look forward to.

Nate Davis blew his chance by not learning the playbook. Thats why we had to sign Troy Smith. And if Troy Smith was such an awesome player, he would have been signed sooner than a week before the season started.

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by 49ermark:
To all the Alex lovers, do you believe he is the answer at QB for the 49ers? Would you intrust 6 more years to him?

Simple question? yes or no? Then please give a reason on why you believe he is the answer.

Please, I just need to know why you think he is the one.

No one says that.

I've noticed that if someone says anything that isn't a blast at Smith, they are a "Smith supporter." Whether you like it or not, he is the best option we have and this won't change. Who is better on the roster? Don't tell me Nate Davis. He doesn't even know the playbook and is on the PS. Troy Smith? Come on son.

Smith isn't the future, but who do you wanna play? The blind Smith hatred clouds your mind. When that happens, you beg for a guy like David Carr to play or you think Shaun Hill is the second coming of Joe Montana. Lets draft a QB. That won't be an overnight fix, and Smith will still be the best option while the rookie gets groomed. That's the bottom line.

Last time I remembered, when Hill was the best option and probably still would be, the argument for Smith was that he has a higher ceiling.

We all know Smith is the best immediate option but he doesn't seem to be the best longterm option. Why not begin to weed all of this out and see if anyone we have could be? Opportunity does wonders for a career and Davis and Troy just need an opportunity. If they don't have what it takes, then at least we know. If there's obvious and glaring potential, then we know we have something to work on and look forward to.

We are 1-7, there is no "best" option besides finding out if anyone can give us anything...something to look forward to.

If Smith doesn't play, I would want to see Davis in there. At least he has a strong arm. But, if he doesn't know the playbook can he? Even though it might be beneficial for us to lose, it hurts my soul watching our offense be pathetic. Like when Carr came in. I at least want us to be able to complete a pass to Crabtree or VD.

I see what you are saying, and I respect that point of view. It would be intriguing to see Davis in there.

I'm sure Nate knows enough plays to be effective. He's also shown ability to "make things happen".

Either way, what difference will it be from Carr who we don't allow to pass the ball anyways? The back up plan with Nate in there will be no different than the one with Carr: run Gore/Dixon/Westbrook a total of 60 times.

Originally posted by mrgneissguy:

Originally posted by NineFourNiner:

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by excelsior:
Let's compare apples to apples. Against KC Alex's QB rating was 68.8. When IND played KC this year, P. Manning had a 65.0. Another example of Alex performing as well as the best QB in football against the same opponent.

lol. here come the haters with the ARE YOU COMPARING ALICE SMITH/ALEXCUSE/ALEX LEAF WITH PEYTON MANNING!?!?!!!111!! HOW DARE YOU! ALICE SMITH/ALEXCUSE/ALEX LEAF SUXORZ!

win.

If we're comparing Peyton Manning to Alex Smith, let's look at wins...career wins, there is no comparison. And don't talk about how Manning has this and that and Smith doesn't get any help. Remember, Vernon Davis told us he was better than Dallas Clark. Remember, Peyton Manning is throwing passes to a guy they pulled off the practice squad. Manning is playing with one of the worst rushing attacks in the league (IIRC last in the NFL last year) and we have Gore. And Manning is playing with a defense that can't stop JV squad running backs.

When Alex Smith can make the players around him play better instead of needing better play from the other players to succeed; when Alex Smith can overcome the shortcomings of the team and get us wins we have no business getting instead of throwing an INT or fumbling at a crucial time ending a potential game winning drive; when Alex Smith can carry the team on his back when nothing else is going right, then we can compare Alex Smith to Manning (or Brady, or whichever top QB you want).

Until then, those numbers don't mean squat to me.

I'm better then Joe Montana...does that mean its true cuz I said it?

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by 49ermark:
To all the Alex lovers, do you believe he is the answer at QB for the 49ers? Would you intrust 6 more years to him?

Simple question? yes or no? Then please give a reason on why you believe he is the answer.

Please, I just need to know why you think he is the one.

No one says that.

I've noticed that if someone says anything that isn't a blast at Smith, they are a "Smith supporter." Whether you like it or not, he is the best option we have and this won't change. Who is better on the roster? Don't tell me Nate Davis. He doesn't even know the playbook and is on the PS. Troy Smith? Come on son.

Smith isn't the future, but who do you wanna play? The blind Smith hatred clouds your mind. When that happens, you beg for a guy like David Carr to play or you think Shaun Hill is the second coming of Joe Montana. Lets draft a QB. That won't be an overnight fix, and Smith will still be the best option while the rookie gets groomed. That's the bottom line.

Last time I remembered, when Hill was the best option and probably still would be, the argument for Smith was that he has a higher ceiling.

We all know Smith is the best immediate option but he doesn't seem to be the best longterm option. Why not begin to weed all of this out and see if anyone we have could be? Opportunity does wonders for a career and Davis and Troy just need an opportunity. If they don't have what it takes, then at least we know. If there's obvious and glaring potential, then we know we have something to work on and look forward to.

We are 1-7, there is no "best" option besides finding out if anyone can give us anything...something to look forward to.

If Smith doesn't play, I would want to see Davis in there. At least he has a strong arm. But, if he doesn't know the playbook can he? Even though it might be beneficial for us to lose, it hurts my soul watching our offense be pathetic. Like when Carr came in. I at least want us to be able to complete a pass to Crabtree or VD.

I see what you are saying, and I respect that point of view. It would be intriguing to see Davis in there.

I'm sure Nate knows enough plays to be effective. He's also shown ability to "make things happen".

Either way, what difference will it be from Carr who we don't allow to pass the ball anyways? The back up plan with Nate in there will be no different than the one with Carr: run Gore/Dixon/Westbrook a total of 60 times.

He looked lost in preseason against backups....if he starts now he will be lost. He has had 0 practice time, if you put him on the field you will SHELL SHOCK the kid!!

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by 49ermark:
To all the Alex lovers, do you believe he is the answer at QB for the 49ers? Would you intrust 6 more years to him?

Simple question? yes or no? Then please give a reason on why you believe he is the answer.

Please, I just need to know why you think he is the one.

No one says that.

I've noticed that if someone says anything that isn't a blast at Smith, they are a "Smith supporter." Whether you like it or not, he is the best option we have and this won't change. Who is better on the roster? Don't tell me Nate Davis. He doesn't even know the playbook and is on the PS. Troy Smith? Come on son.

Smith isn't the future, but who do you wanna play? The blind Smith hatred clouds your mind. When that happens, you beg for a guy like David Carr to play or you think Shaun Hill is the second coming of Joe Montana. Lets draft a QB. That won't be an overnight fix, and Smith will still be the best option while the rookie gets groomed. That's the bottom line.

Last time I remembered, when Hill was the best option and probably still would be, the argument for Smith was that he has a higher ceiling.

We all know Smith is the best immediate option but he doesn't seem to be the best longterm option. Why not begin to weed all of this out and see if anyone we have could be? Opportunity does wonders for a career and Davis and Troy just need an opportunity. If they don't have what it takes, then at least we know. If there's obvious and glaring potential, then we know we have something to work on and look forward to.

We are 1-7, there is no "best" option besides finding out if anyone can give us anything...something to look forward to.

If Smith doesn't play, I would want to see Davis in there. At least he has a strong arm. But, if he doesn't know the playbook can he? Even though it might be beneficial for us to lose, it hurts my soul watching our offense be pathetic. Like when Carr came in. I at least want us to be able to complete a pass to Crabtree or VD.

I see what you are saying, and I respect that point of view. It would be intriguing to see Davis in there.

I'm sure Nate knows enough plays to be effective. He's also shown ability to "make things happen".

Either way, what difference will it be from Carr who we don't allow to pass the ball anyways? The back up plan with Nate in there will be no different than the one with Carr: run Gore/Dixon/Westbrook a total of 60 times.

He looked lost in preseason against backups....if he starts now he will be lost. He has had 0 practice time, if you put him on the field you will SHELL SHOCK the kid!!

He didn't look that lost. He still made plays. Like I said, Carr will only be handing the ball off. We can have Nate do that and gain experience with simple plays or deep passes down the sidelines.

To note, I want to see Troy Smith first.

Originally posted by dtcomposer:

Originally posted by 49ermark:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by 49ermark:
To all the Alex lovers, do you believe he is the answer at QB for the 49ers? Would you intrust 6 more years to him?

Simple question? yes or no? Then please give a reason on why you believe he is the answer.

Please, I just need to know why you think he is the one.

No one says that.

I've noticed that if someone says anything that isn't a blast at Smith, they are a "Smith supporter." Whether you like it or not, he is the best option we have and this won't change. Who is better on the roster? Don't tell me Nate Davis. He doesn't even know the playbook and is on the PS. Troy Smith? Come on son.

Smith isn't the future, but who do you wanna play? The blind Smith hatred clouds your mind. When that happens, you beg for a guy like David Carr to play or you think Shaun Hill is the second coming of Joe Montana. Lets draft a QB. That won't be an overnight fix, and Smith will still be the best option while the rookie gets groomed. That's the bottom line.

Well when you take away any other option at QB then you risk what we have now.
I knew there isn't anyone out there that thinks Smiths the long term answer. Why defend the guy then. Let him go already 6 years is enough dont you think? 1 win in 6 games the guy is a proven loser. I don't hate Smith I just wish we never drafted him in the first place -always have.

Got love for the 9ers just don't get the love for Alex don't get it at all...

Some people enjoy the truth, and honest analysis. It is a weakness, to be sure, but we just like to call things as they really are and not find a convenient scapegoat.

Whose calling Smith a scapegoat?He is who I thought he was...A utter BUST.

Originally posted by Canadian49er:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by fly15:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by leolion:

Originally posted by fly15:

Originally posted by seeking6th:
which arm/hand does he use to fondle himself, is it the injured one?

he uses singletarys'

About 25% of members of this site would volunteer for the job.

i know i would

i knew that

I knew you knew that

Sign me up as well

Valrod dont share

Originally posted by fly15:

Originally posted by Canadian49er:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by fly15:

Originally posted by valrod33:

Originally posted by leolion:

Originally posted by fly15:

Originally posted by seeking6th:
which arm/hand does he use to fondle himself, is it the injured one?

he uses singletarys'

About 25% of members of this site would volunteer for the job.

i know i would

i knew that

I knew you knew that

Sign me up as well

Valrod dont share

unless you buy me flowers

Originally posted by boast:

Originally posted by Fool4D9ers:

Originally posted by kazak13:
well any info on how serious it is? I couldnt catch it on tv..

so how much more do we appreciate Alex now that we seen David Carr? Troy Smith in anytime soon?

We dont appreciate the bust known as Alex Smith........the question we should be asking is if Singletary and company had no faith in Carr and the rest of the backups why did we get rid of Shaun Hill !

speak for yourself. i appreciate Alex. nothing but a class act.

Appreciate him all you want, being a class act does not win championships! Still does not answer the question why Singletary gave away Shaun Hill over Carr and Davis when we all know Singletary's position on his backup QB's. More evidence that great players do not always make great coaches.......as the case for Singletary.

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by jreff22:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by Joecool:

Originally posted by sacniner:

Originally posted by 49ermark:
To all the Alex lovers, do you believe he is the answer at QB for the 49ers? Would you intrust 6 more years to him?

Simple question? yes or no? Then please give a reason on why you believe he is the answer.

Please, I just need to know why you think he is the one.

No one says that.

I've noticed that if someone says anything that isn't a blast at Smith, they are a "Smith supporter." Whether you like it or not, he is the best option we have and this won't change. Who is better on the roster? Don't tell me Nate Davis. He doesn't even know the playbook and is on the PS. Troy Smith? Come on son.

Smith isn't the future, but who do you wanna play? The blind Smith hatred clouds your mind. When that happens, you beg for a guy like David Carr to play or you think Shaun Hill is the second coming of Joe Montana. Lets draft a QB. That won't be an overnight fix, and Smith will still be the best option while the rookie gets groomed. That's the bottom line.

Last time I remembered, when Hill was the best option and probably still would be, the argument for Smith was that he has a higher ceiling.

We all know Smith is the best immediate option but he doesn't seem to be the best longterm option. Why not begin to weed all of this out and see if anyone we have could be? Opportunity does wonders for a career and Davis and Troy just need an opportunity. If they don't have what it takes, then at least we know. If there's obvious and glaring potential, then we know we have something to work on and look forward to.

We are 1-7, there is no "best" option besides finding out if anyone can give us anything...something to look forward to.

If Smith doesn't play, I would want to see Davis in there. At least he has a strong arm. But, if he doesn't know the playbook can he? Even though it might be beneficial for us to lose, it hurts my soul watching our offense be pathetic. Like when Carr came in. I at least want us to be able to complete a pass to Crabtree or VD.

I see what you are saying, and I respect that point of view. It would be intriguing to see Davis in there.

I'm sure Nate knows enough plays to be effective. He's also shown ability to "make things happen".

Either way, what difference will it be from Carr who we don't allow to pass the ball anyways? The back up plan with Nate in there will be no different than the one with Carr: run Gore/Dixon/Westbrook a total of 60 times.

He looked lost in preseason against backups....if he starts now he will be lost. He has had 0 practice time, if you put him on the field you will SHELL SHOCK the kid!!

He didn't look that lost. He still made plays. Like I said, Carr will only be handing the ball off. We can have Nate do that and gain experience with simple plays or deep passes down the sidelines.

To note, I want to see Troy Smith first.

There is more to being a good QB then throwing 60 yard bombs, that was his big play for preseason HOF...... He has never played 1 down in an actual game, he runs the risk of getting hurt because our line is garbage, or he doesn't know what to do....or worse he gets somebody else hurt because of his lack of knowledge. If he cant make the proper adjustment calls he will get somebody (possibly himself) killed.

Same reason you don't give the keys to the car to a 14 year old that's driven in a parking lot and then say hey lets put them on the freeway....asking for disaster.

isn't this thread supposed to be about his injury???? there is a whole alex hating thread somewhere else. can't we keep this one on topic.