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Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
A fresh Westbrook or Dixon is more effective than a tired Gore.

hell yea man. Dixon EXPLODED on that run. Too bad for the holding call.

Yeah that big DIX exploded! Lol
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
A fresh Westbrook or Dixon is more effective than a tired Gore.

hell yea man. Dixon EXPLODED on that run. Too bad for the holding call.


For reals, I was at the game and he was pumped up anytime he took the field during STs and even on the sidelines. That run was awesome, I felt bad for him that they called it back.
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Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Originally posted by richierich:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/25805/a-few-thoughts-on-the-49ers-against-oakland


1. The offense lacks rhythm. Alex Smith's quick pass to Ted Ginn Jr. on a slant pattern was one exception. Overall, though, it seems as though Smith cannot find or does not have available to him quick outlets against pressure. He winds up risking sacks or running from the pocket without purpose. The Raiders' press coverage might present challenges on timing routes, but the 49ers' offense has looked this way in other games, too.

2. Smith came very close to connecting with Josh Morgan on a deep ball to open the 49ers' first possession. Cornerback Stanford Routt might have slowed Morgan as the ball was arriving, but it was tough to say for sure. That play and a reverse to Ginn showed some aggressiveness.

3. What is Smith's strength? What is the one thing he does really well? The St. Louis Rams' Sam Bradford throws with exceptional accuracy when running on designed rollouts. The Seattle Seahawks' Matt Hasselbeck can push the offensive tempo quickly enough to keep a defense off-balance. For Smith, sometimes it's throwing the intermediate seam route to Vernon Davis. Watching this game against the Raiders, nothing stood out. Some of that might stem from the design of the offense. Again, there isn't much rhythm to the passing game.

4. Brian Westbrook gained 19 yards the only time he touched the ball. I wouldn't want to remove Frank Gore from the field, either, but if Westbrook has that much spring in his step, a few more touches would make sense.

5. Rookie left guard Mike Iupati stands straight up sometimes and it costs him leverage. It really is all about technique for him, as teammates and coaches have indicated previously.

6. Rookie right tackle Anthony Davis ran across the formation and smashed into the Raiders' Trevor Scott, crumpling the 255-pound defensive end.

7. Rookie strong safety Taylor Mays appears close to making big plays. He did force a fumble with a big hit in the red zone. He nearly picked off a couple passes. The Raiders appeared to fool him on a reverse, but coach Mike Singletary said Mays wasn't the problem on that play. Singletary credited Mays for hustling to make the tackle. Speaking of hustle, I noticed receiver Michael Crabtree hustling downfield to block during Frank Gore's 64-yard run. Good play by Crabtree.

8. Defensive end Justin Smith isn't catching my attention the way he has in the past. I focused on him in this game. Smith disrupted a running play after getting a few plays off (Demetric Evans rotates with him). Raiders rookie left tackle Jared Veldheer shoved Smith out of the way on a subsequent play.

9. Inside linebacker Patrick Willis delivered the most forceful hit of the game, I thought. Raiders tackle Mario Henderson appeared unprepared for what awaited when he stepped into Willis' turf in the middle of the field. Henderson was carrying himself too upright as he led running back Michael Bush. Willis approached Henderson, crouched ever so slightly and launched his upper body into Henderson's chest just below the shoulder pads. The result? Willis basically tackled Bush with Henderson. Scary.

10. Officials didn't throw a flag when Raiders tackle Langston Walker essentially clotheslined 49ers outside linebacker Ahmad Brooks as Brooks rushed off the edge. That couldn't have felt very good.

"Overall, the 49ers defense played one of its better games. The offense was hit-and-miss."

Smiths strength is in the shotgun. This is plain as day. Why we don't do it more often is beyond all of us.

The Niners strength is Grank Gore. By putting Smith in the shotgun, we're basically telling the defense that Alex will beat them with their arm.

Good luck with that one.....
Loved those OL smacks from Willis. Both he and TKO are violent TED-like backers that can really lay the wood. We are so lucky to have them at the 2nd level. They often mask our DL failures.
Originally posted by Imfasterthanur:
Originally posted by richierich:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/25805/a-few-thoughts-on-the-49ers-against-oakland


1. The offense lacks rhythm. Alex Smith's quick pass to Ted Ginn Jr. on a slant pattern was one exception. Overall, though, it seems as though Smith cannot find or does not have available to him quick outlets against pressure. He winds up risking sacks or running from the pocket without purpose. The Raiders' press coverage might present challenges on timing routes, but the 49ers' offense has looked this way in other games, too.

2. Smith came very close to connecting with Josh Morgan on a deep ball to open the 49ers' first possession. Cornerback Stanford Routt might have slowed Morgan as the ball was arriving, but it was tough to say for sure. That play and a reverse to Ginn showed some aggressiveness.

3. What is Smith's strength? What is the one thing he does really well? The St. Louis Rams' Sam Bradford throws with exceptional accuracy when running on designed rollouts. The Seattle Seahawks' Matt Hasselbeck can push the offensive tempo quickly enough to keep a defense off-balance. For Smith, sometimes it's throwing the intermediate seam route to Vernon Davis. Watching this game against the Raiders, nothing stood out. Some of that might stem from the design of the offense. Again, there isn't much rhythm to the passing game.

4. Brian Westbrook gained 19 yards the only time he touched the ball. I wouldn't want to remove Frank Gore from the field, either, but if Westbrook has that much spring in his step, a few more touches would make sense.

5. Rookie left guard Mike Iupati stands straight up sometimes and it costs him leverage. It really is all about technique for him, as teammates and coaches have indicated previously.

6. Rookie right tackle Anthony Davis ran across the formation and smashed into the Raiders' Trevor Scott, crumpling the 255-pound defensive end.

7. Rookie strong safety Taylor Mays appears close to making big plays. He did force a fumble with a big hit in the red zone. He nearly picked off a couple passes. The Raiders appeared to fool him on a reverse, but coach Mike Singletary said Mays wasn't the problem on that play. Singletary credited Mays for hustling to make the tackle. Speaking of hustle, I noticed receiver Michael Crabtree hustling downfield to block during Frank Gore's 64-yard run. Good play by Crabtree.

8. Defensive end Justin Smith isn't catching my attention the way he has in the past. I focused on him in this game. Smith disrupted a running play after getting a few plays off (Demetric Evans rotates with him). Raiders rookie left tackle Jared Veldheer shoved Smith out of the way on a subsequent play.

9. Inside linebacker Patrick Willis delivered the most forceful hit of the game, I thought. Raiders tackle Mario Henderson appeared unprepared for what awaited when he stepped into Willis' turf in the middle of the field. Henderson was carrying himself too upright as he led running back Michael Bush. Willis approached Henderson, crouched ever so slightly and launched his upper body into Henderson's chest just below the shoulder pads. The result? Willis basically tackled Bush with Henderson. Scary.

10. Officials didn't throw a flag when Raiders tackle Langston Walker essentially clotheslined 49ers outside linebacker Ahmad Brooks as Brooks rushed off the edge. That couldn't have felt very good.

"Overall, the 49ers defense played one of its better games. The offense was hit-and-miss."



Patrick Willis actually did that twice in the same quarter. very scary.
Yes it was
Like I was saying yesterday, the passing game can't get in a rhythm because of how the plays are called. There needs to be the occasional series where we pass on every down. Also, Smith needs to be in the gun. By the time he completes his drops, he is already under pressure.
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
A fresh Westbrook or Dixon is more effective than a tired Gore.

hell yea man. Dixon EXPLODED on that run. Too bad for the holding call.

HE JUST EXPLODED OUT OF THE BACKFIELD AFTER HE SAW THE GAPING HOLE OPEN UP TO PENETRATE INTO!!!!!
wrong thread

[ Edited by OregonNiner87 on Oct 19, 2010 at 18:08:45 ]
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Originally posted by ZRF80:
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Originally posted by richierich:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/25805/a-few-thoughts-on-the-49ers-against-oakland


1. The offense lacks rhythm. Alex Smith's quick pass to Ted Ginn Jr. on a slant pattern was one exception. Overall, though, it seems as though Smith cannot find or does not have available to him quick outlets against pressure. He winds up risking sacks or running from the pocket without purpose. The Raiders' press coverage might present challenges on timing routes, but the 49ers' offense has looked this way in other games, too.

2. Smith came very close to connecting with Josh Morgan on a deep ball to open the 49ers' first possession. Cornerback Stanford Routt might have slowed Morgan as the ball was arriving, but it was tough to say for sure. That play and a reverse to Ginn showed some aggressiveness.

3. What is Smith's strength? What is the one thing he does really well? The St. Louis Rams' Sam Bradford throws with exceptional accuracy when running on designed rollouts. The Seattle Seahawks' Matt Hasselbeck can push the offensive tempo quickly enough to keep a defense off-balance. For Smith, sometimes it's throwing the intermediate seam route to Vernon Davis. Watching this game against the Raiders, nothing stood out. Some of that might stem from the design of the offense. Again, there isn't much rhythm to the passing game.

4. Brian Westbrook gained 19 yards the only time he touched the ball. I wouldn't want to remove Frank Gore from the field, either, but if Westbrook has that much spring in his step, a few more touches would make sense.

5. Rookie left guard Mike Iupati stands straight up sometimes and it costs him leverage. It really is all about technique for him, as teammates and coaches have indicated previously.

6. Rookie right tackle Anthony Davis ran across the formation and smashed into the Raiders' Trevor Scott, crumpling the 255-pound defensive end.

7. Rookie strong safety Taylor Mays appears close to making big plays. He did force a fumble with a big hit in the red zone. He nearly picked off a couple passes. The Raiders appeared to fool him on a reverse, but coach Mike Singletary said Mays wasn't the problem on that play. Singletary credited Mays for hustling to make the tackle. Speaking of hustle, I noticed receiver Michael Crabtree hustling downfield to block during Frank Gore's 64-yard run. Good play by Crabtree.

8. Defensive end Justin Smith isn't catching my attention the way he has in the past. I focused on him in this game. Smith disrupted a running play after getting a few plays off (Demetric Evans rotates with him). Raiders rookie left tackle Jared Veldheer shoved Smith out of the way on a subsequent play.

9. Inside linebacker Patrick Willis delivered the most forceful hit of the game, I thought. Raiders tackle Mario Henderson appeared unprepared for what awaited when he stepped into Willis' turf in the middle of the field. Henderson was carrying himself too upright as he led running back Michael Bush. Willis approached Henderson, crouched ever so slightly and launched his upper body into Henderson's chest just below the shoulder pads. The result? Willis basically tackled Bush with Henderson. Scary.

10. Officials didn't throw a flag when Raiders tackle Langston Walker essentially clotheslined 49ers outside linebacker Ahmad Brooks as Brooks rushed off the edge. That couldn't have felt very good.

"Overall, the 49ers defense played one of its better games. The offense was hit-and-miss."

Smiths strength is in the shotgun. This is plain as day. Why we don't do it more often is beyond all of us.

The Niners strength is Grank Gore. By putting Smith in the shotgun, we're basically telling the defense that Alex will beat them with their arm.

Good luck with that one.....

What? You can run out of the shotgun. They are much better in a 1 back set. Having Norris or Byham bascially tells the defense it's a running play
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Originally posted by richierich:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/25805/a-few-thoughts-on-the-49ers-against-oakland


1. The offense lacks rhythm. Alex Smith's quick pass to Ted Ginn Jr. on a slant pattern was one exception. Overall, though, it seems as though Smith cannot find or does not have available to him quick outlets against pressure. He winds up risking sacks or running from the pocket without purpose. The Raiders' press coverage might present challenges on timing routes, but the 49ers' offense has looked this way in other games, too.

2. Smith came very close to connecting with Josh Morgan on a deep ball to open the 49ers' first possession. Cornerback Stanford Routt might have slowed Morgan as the ball was arriving, but it was tough to say for sure. That play and a reverse to Ginn showed some aggressiveness.

3. What is Smith's strength? What is the one thing he does really well? The St. Louis Rams' Sam Bradford throws with exceptional accuracy when running on designed rollouts. The Seattle Seahawks' Matt Hasselbeck can push the offensive tempo quickly enough to keep a defense off-balance. For Smith, sometimes it's throwing the intermediate seam route to Vernon Davis. Watching this game against the Raiders, nothing stood out. Some of that might stem from the design of the offense. Again, there isn't much rhythm to the passing game.

4. Brian Westbrook gained 19 yards the only time he touched the ball. I wouldn't want to remove Frank Gore from the field, either, but if Westbrook has that much spring in his step, a few more touches would make sense.

5. Rookie left guard Mike Iupati stands straight up sometimes and it costs him leverage. It really is all about technique for him, as teammates and coaches have indicated previously.

6. Rookie right tackle Anthony Davis ran across the formation and smashed into the Raiders' Trevor Scott, crumpling the 255-pound defensive end.

7. Rookie strong safety Taylor Mays appears close to making big plays. He did force a fumble with a big hit in the red zone. He nearly picked off a couple passes. The Raiders appeared to fool him on a reverse, but coach Mike Singletary said Mays wasn't the problem on that play. Singletary credited Mays for hustling to make the tackle. Speaking of hustle, I noticed receiver Michael Crabtree hustling downfield to block during Frank Gore's 64-yard run. Good play by Crabtree.

8. Defensive end Justin Smith isn't catching my attention the way he has in the past. I focused on him in this game. Smith disrupted a running play after getting a few plays off (Demetric Evans rotates with him). Raiders rookie left tackle Jared Veldheer shoved Smith out of the way on a subsequent play.

9. Inside linebacker Patrick Willis delivered the most forceful hit of the game, I thought. Raiders tackle Mario Henderson appeared unprepared for what awaited when he stepped into Willis' turf in the middle of the field. Henderson was carrying himself too upright as he led running back Michael Bush. Willis approached Henderson, crouched ever so slightly and launched his upper body into Henderson's chest just below the shoulder pads. The result? Willis basically tackled Bush with Henderson. Scary.

10. Officials didn't throw a flag when Raiders tackle Langston Walker essentially clotheslined 49ers outside linebacker Ahmad Brooks as Brooks rushed off the edge. That couldn't have felt very good.

"Overall, the 49ers defense played one of its better games. The offense was hit-and-miss."

Smiths strength is in the shotgun. This is plain as day. Why we don't do it more often is beyond all of us.

The Niners strength is Grank Gore. By putting Smith in the shotgun, we're basically telling the defense that Alex will beat them with their arm.

Good luck with that one.....

You're right. Smith out of the gun is useless compared to bunch formations and Gore up the middle. The latter seems to scare defenses way more.
Originally posted by JR80Forever:
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
damn, can't wait to re-watch this game!!! I wanna see that play by willis.

Where can someone rewatch the game on the internet? I checked out the website and the multimedia section didn't have it. Webzone use to have games on the website.


NFL Rewind.....
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[ Edited by NineFourNiner on Oct 19, 2010 at 20:31:15 ]
Originally posted by ZRF80:
Originally posted by LambdaChi49:
Originally posted by richierich:
http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcwest/post/_/id/25805/a-few-thoughts-on-the-49ers-against-oakland


1. The offense lacks rhythm. Alex Smith's quick pass to Ted Ginn Jr. on a slant pattern was one exception. Overall, though, it seems as though Smith cannot find or does not have available to him quick outlets against pressure. He winds up risking sacks or running from the pocket without purpose. The Raiders' press coverage might present challenges on timing routes, but the 49ers' offense has looked this way in other games, too.

2. Smith came very close to connecting with Josh Morgan on a deep ball to open the 49ers' first possession. Cornerback Stanford Routt might have slowed Morgan as the ball was arriving, but it was tough to say for sure. That play and a reverse to Ginn showed some aggressiveness.

3. What is Smith's strength? What is the one thing he does really well? The St. Louis Rams' Sam Bradford throws with exceptional accuracy when running on designed rollouts. The Seattle Seahawks' Matt Hasselbeck can push the offensive tempo quickly enough to keep a defense off-balance. For Smith, sometimes it's throwing the intermediate seam route to Vernon Davis. Watching this game against the Raiders, nothing stood out. Some of that might stem from the design of the offense. Again, there isn't much rhythm to the passing game.

4. Brian Westbrook gained 19 yards the only time he touched the ball. I wouldn't want to remove Frank Gore from the field, either, but if Westbrook has that much spring in his step, a few more touches would make sense.

5. Rookie left guard Mike Iupati stands straight up sometimes and it costs him leverage. It really is all about technique for him, as teammates and coaches have indicated previously.

6. Rookie right tackle Anthony Davis ran across the formation and smashed into the Raiders' Trevor Scott, crumpling the 255-pound defensive end.

7. Rookie strong safety Taylor Mays appears close to making big plays. He did force a fumble with a big hit in the red zone. He nearly picked off a couple passes. The Raiders appeared to fool him on a reverse, but coach Mike Singletary said Mays wasn't the problem on that play. Singletary credited Mays for hustling to make the tackle. Speaking of hustle, I noticed receiver Michael Crabtree hustling downfield to block during Frank Gore's 64-yard run. Good play by Crabtree.

8. Defensive end Justin Smith isn't catching my attention the way he has in the past. I focused on him in this game. Smith disrupted a running play after getting a few plays off (Demetric Evans rotates with him). Raiders rookie left tackle Jared Veldheer shoved Smith out of the way on a subsequent play.

9. Inside linebacker Patrick Willis delivered the most forceful hit of the game, I thought. Raiders tackle Mario Henderson appeared unprepared for what awaited when he stepped into Willis' turf in the middle of the field. Henderson was carrying himself too upright as he led running back Michael Bush. Willis approached Henderson, crouched ever so slightly and launched his upper body into Henderson's chest just below the shoulder pads. The result? Willis basically tackled Bush with Henderson. Scary.

10. Officials didn't throw a flag when Raiders tackle Langston Walker essentially clotheslined 49ers outside linebacker Ahmad Brooks as Brooks rushed off the edge. That couldn't have felt very good.

"Overall, the 49ers defense played one of its better games. The offense was hit-and-miss."

Smiths strength is in the shotgun. This is plain as day. Why we don't do it more often is beyond all of us.

The Niners strength is Grank Gore. .

I disagree. In fact, I think this tremendously simpleminded of you. The 9ers strength is that they have a bunch of weapons, and they need to get them the ball.

[ Edited by binary2nd on Oct 19, 2010 at 20:52:40 ]
Originally posted by SybErkRimInAL:
Originally posted by bigmike55:
A fresh Westbrook or Dixon is more effective than a tired Gore.

hell yea man. Dixon EXPLODED on that run. Too bad for the holding call.

Yeah Thanks JOE STALEY. Dixon didn't need the extra help he was already 10 yards down the field lol and so were you..
The poster left out the other part of Sando's article, which pointed out that Alex leads the league in completion % in the red zone. (76.9%) He also pointed out that he has 7 TDs and 0 INT in the red zone. That is pretty impressive. Was it just an oversight on the part of the poster to leave that out, or did he have an agenda?

Such behavior, along with extreme comments like, "Alex never ..." or "Alex always ...," just destroys their credibility completely.
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