Originally posted by SJniner7:
Originally posted by Jersey9er:
Originally posted by SJniner7:
We all know QB change won't fix evverything. This has become evident with our approach to consistent runs on first downs, sloppy defensive play, and poor ball handling.
However, a QB change may have gotten us a few wins. Smith has not been very careful with the ball at all.
We have how many turnovers? I believe the team has 15.
How many of them was Smith part of? 10... I say "part of" because you guys like to blame everyone else for the turnovers.
I don't know how you guys don't see the pattern with this team. Smith starts out good, plays poorly for 2-3 quarters, then buffs his stats near the end while simultaneously losing. If we changed QB to at least someone who could take care of the ball, or even just have half the turnovers that Smith has had, we might be at least 1-4 or 2-3 right now
See your right actually, now on the same token. If your QB did just enough, to keep you in the game down to the final minute in 2 to 3 games. Then wouldnt you expect the D to make a stop. Because you have to agree, no QB plays good every game, and just like when the Skins beat the EAgles, Mcnabb said after the game. "Defense you won the game for us. I know me and the O havent gotten it together yet, but we will, just be patient, and we'll meet you half way."
If we were blown out continously then fine, but in the Saints game, D should of stopped and we got a win. Falcons game, D stopped we would of won. Maybe even the Eagles game, key stops and we would of won.
What im saying is, definitely the blame falls on Smith cuz he is the QB. But my question is, from what a lot of you say, we should have to worry about asking the D to win the game for us, because the O should be better. Well if u think like that your crazy. When one part fails, then another should step up. Which in our case, they have all fallen.
But we were also put into those "close" games because of earlier mistakes by our QB...
Game 1 - Smith got us into the redzone 3 times and only got 2 FGs. The second half was abysmal
Game 2 - Smith threw 2 INTs, which should have yielded at least 6 points. Smith also engineered a drive which gave NO the ball with 1:19 left and 3 timeouts. While I don't blame this on Smith, a good veteran QB would understand the need to burn some more time off the clock.
Game 3 - Our D gets an INT, and Smith gives it right back! (that was a total WTF moment). Then Smith has this series near the end of the first half...
-15-SF 23 (1:55) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 20-B.Westbrook to SF 28 for 5 yards (53-D.Williams).
-2-10-SF 28 (1:30) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 20-B.Westbrook to SF 29 for 1 yard (24-B.Flowers).
-3-9-SF 29 (1:24) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 21-F.Gore to SF 29 for no gain (47-J.McGraw) [92-W.Gilberry].
And several more 3 and outs in the 3rd quarter.
I could finish with games 4 and 5, but my point is he doesn't put us in position to win the game. The only time the D truly pissed me off was the ATL game. Clements could have sealed the victory, but then the D let them march down the field again. However, I could also argue that with the fact that Smith only put 7 points on the board. He threw 2 INTs when in FG range.
It's like the opposing team says "okay, just wait for it. Just play safe and they are going to screw up eventually..." And by they, I mean our offense...
Well jerseyan, let me know if u notice this. Rodgers, FAvre, each last game they played, they threw an INT on the winning drive. FAvre threw the losing int in the SB or playoffs i dont even remember. So even HOF qb's f**k up at crucial points, and he's neither. I'm just showing even the best f**k up at crunch time, trying to do too much.
The NO game, say what u want, but when we scored and converted the 2pt conversion. LOOk of sure beauty. U left out how the D, failed to make a stop. I like P. Manning better than Brees. So last year we can hold him all game, but not stop Brees. The D cost us that one. Smith put the team and the impossible wasnt soo much scoring a TD, it was also converting on 2pts. And the burning the clock, you'd have to be STUPID, and yeah i said STUPID, to worry about the clock. You score than leave it up to ur D, which is why they get paid too.
Game 3, not notice, u pointed to first half. Still a whole entire half left. 3rd quarter, still entire 4th quarter left. Games arent always gonna be blowouts, and it's the close games that u can win, that really separate the playoff teams from the avg. to below avg teams. Say what u want Smith didnt play great, but if the D would of held, we may have won that too.
And i wont go to 4 or 5 either than. My point is, there are such things as close games. And u guys dont like it, but HOF players alike said this all last year, and i know cuz i posted it. "I dont care if we win a game by 1pt or .5 pts., what counts in this league is W's and L's, and if we got the W, thats all that counts." See some of ya'll go into the specifics, but i look at it like this.
If it's a close game, going into the 4th quarter, and both offenses and defenses, never break, then in my opinion its which team wants it more that simple. And on offense and on defense, whats the main word for this season FINISHING. If we are up 14-10 4th quarter with 4 minutes left, then I dont care what anyone says, Im not wrong for wanting my D to step up and finish, just like some of u say with the O.
So to end it, he may not have played great, and all im saying is, ya'll hold onto turnovers, when some happen waaay before the half, and still talk about em after when u have an entire 2nd half left. You gotta let go of that s**t, and try to play a better half. Good teams dont complain if they win by 1pt. We just lose by 1pt, thats why a lot of us b***h.
