Shawntae Spencer speaks of defensive troubles.

Quote: We do have some things we have to tighten up on but it’s nothing really, really major. A lot of the passing yards that we have against us are, because we have a good front seven, is screens and things like that, and it’s a lot of hidden yards. When you look at the stats and things like that you might see ‘Wow. He had 230 yards’, but how many of those yards came from screens. How many receptions did the running backs have? You look at certain games and a lot of times the elite receivers are the running backs. Those are things that we’re going to get because we have a very good defense in my eyes and an exceptionally good front seven, so I think that’s one of the ways the offenses are going to attack us. The first four plays, we had four screens from Philly, and it’s been that way. Same with New Orleans. Same with Kansas City and same thing with Seattle.

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Interesting insight, I've always been a fan of Spencer, and I like what he says in the end of the interview!

[ Edited by verb1der on Oct 13, 2010 at 21:20:49 ]

Call me crazy...but, why did n't they something from the screens that got them beat? What am I missing?

Originally posted by verb1der:
Quote: We do have some things we have to tighten up on but it’s nothing really, really major. A lot of the passing yards that we have against us are, because we have a good front seven, is screens and things like that, and it’s a lot of hidden yards. When you look at the stats and things like that you might see ‘Wow. He had 230 yards’, but how many of those yards came from screens. How many receptions did the running backs have? You look at certain games and a lot of times the elite receivers are the running backs. Those are things that we’re going to get because we have a very good defense in my eyes and an exceptionally good front seven, so I think that’s one of the ways the offenses are going to attack us. The first four plays, we had four screens from Philly, and it’s been that way. Same with New Orleans. Same with Kansas City and same thing with Seattle.

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Interesting insight, I've always been a fan of Spencer, and I like what he says in the end!

Sounds like excuses to me. Offenses didn't kill the 2000 Ravens or the Bucs or the 04 Steelers or the 08 Steelers with screens. It's just a weakness our team doesn't seem to be convinced that they need to fix. It's like when Manusky said it was fine that Nate tried to score, they're just convinced you don't need to do anything about it. Our coaches don't take the smart approach. To me it sounds like he's saying "well we're good enough so teams will just try to screen us to death and that's okay". It's really not.

edit: and then when he says "well it was 17 points we couldn't really control", WTF is that s**t? Plenty of other teams don't get burned on the first drive of the game. I understand letting them off the hook for the Smith fumble, but how about Gore's fumble that was at their 40 and they got a FG out of it or whatever? How about trying to bail Gore out? Of course if you don't count the times you performed like s**t then you'll look good. That's like saying after I play basketball "well I only missed some shots because I couldn't force them to go in the basket, but if you look at the shots I made I'm an absolute baller". This defense is giving up 26 PPG and they're full of themselves and they're 0-5. Ugh, I wish we had a guy like Parcells as coach.

[ Edited by WillistheWall on Oct 13, 2010 at 20:32:36 ]

"spencer, how did it feel getting ran the f**k over?"

Originally posted by 49ersNoKaOi:
"spencer, how did it feel getting ran the f**k over?"

Exactly...they let the same thing happen again and again...hellooo

Seems like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. By saying most of the passing yards have come off screen passes, and at the same time praising the front 7. Screens only work once they reach the secondary. I hate to sound like a pessimist but something is different about this d from last year.

Originally posted by b9er37:
Seems like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. By saying most of the passing yards have come off screen passes, and at the same time praising the front 7. Screens only work once they reach the secondary. I hate to sound like a pessimist but something is different about this d from last year.

I noticed this too, he's throwing them under the bus! hahaha jk

Originally posted by b9er37:
Seems like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. By saying most of the passing yards have come off screen passes, and at the same time praising the front 7. Screens only work once they reach the secondary. I hate to sound like a pessimist but something is different about this d from last year.

They got full of themselves and now they believe they can do no wrong. Seriously, "17 points we couldnt control"? Really Shawntae? You're the defense, that's your f'ing job. Like I said earlier, I'll give em a pass on the 7 from the fumble by SMith since they had nothing to do with that but the Gore fumble and the first drive they didn't do anything well really and if they were really as good as they think they are that wouldn't have happened.

Originally posted by WillistheWall:

Originally posted by verb1der:
Quote: We do have some things we have to tighten up on but it’s nothing really, really major. A lot of the passing yards that we have against us are, because we have a good front seven, is screens and things like that, and it’s a lot of hidden yards. When you look at the stats and things like that you might see ‘Wow. He had 230 yards’, but how many of those yards came from screens. How many receptions did the running backs have? You look at certain games and a lot of times the elite receivers are the running backs. Those are things that we’re going to get because we have a very good defense in my eyes and an exceptionally good front seven, so I think that’s one of the ways the offenses are going to attack us. The first four plays, we had four screens from Philly, and it’s been that way. Same with New Orleans. Same with Kansas City and same thing with Seattle.

Read more: 1-on-1 with 49ers CB Shawntae Spencer
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Interesting insight, I've always been a fan of Spencer, and I like what he says in the end!

Sounds like excuses to me. Offenses didn't kill the 2000 Ravens or the Bucs or the 04 Steelers or the 08 Steelers with screens. It's just a weakness our team doesn't seem to be convinced that they need to fix. It's like when Manusky said it was fine that Nate tried to score, they're just convinced you don't need to do anything about it. Our coaches don't take the smart approach. To me it sounds like he's saying "well we're good enough so teams will just try to screen us to death and that's okay". It's really not.

edit: and then when he says "well it was 17 points we couldn't really control", WTF is that s**t? Plenty of other teams don't get burned on the first drive of the game. I understand letting them off the hook for the Smith fumble, but how about Gore's fumble that was at their 40 and they got a FG out of it or whatever? How about trying to bail Gore out? Of course if you don't count the times you performed like s**t then you'll look good. That's like saying after I play basketball "well I only missed some shots because I couldn't force them to go in the basket, but if you look at the shots I made I'm an absolute baller". This defense is giving up 26 PPG and they're full of themselves and they're 0-5. Ugh, I wish we had a guy like Parcells as coach.

I also wonder why 17pts?! Why not aim for at least 13? lol

He acts as if screen passes are something they can't control. Giving up 50 yards on 3 screens or getting torched for 50 yards, wither way it still counts the same and is still the defenses responsibility to stop.

Originally posted by AllTimeGreat:
He acts as if screen passes are something they can't control. Giving up 50 yards on 3 screens or getting torched for 50 yards, wither way it still counts the same and is still the defenses responsibility to stop.

Exactly. It's like they don't think that a screen play is physical or something so it doesn't matter that they don't defend against it well. And this is a problem IMO because it seems like they know they're not good against screens or they get screened to death but they just don't care to stop it, or they don't think they need to. That comes from coaching IMO and that is a problem with our philosophy.

Our D-line needs to get off the blocks and run to the ball carrier. I saw that last year, but this year...

So the problem has been screen plays but we still can't stop the screen plays? Brilliant!

Originally posted by teeohh:
So the problem has been screen plays but we still can't stop the screen plays? Brilliant!

That requires an intelligent coaching staff that knows how to game plan and prepare. Way too advanced for these guys.

Originally posted by b9er37:
Seems like he's talking out of both sides of his mouth. By saying most of the passing yards have come off screen passes, and at the same time praising the front 7. Screens only work once they reach the secondary. I hate to sound like a pessimist but something is different about this d from last year.

Yeah ummmm Sreens are supposed to be identified by the Safety actually.

When the RB comes around the edge with NO BALL in his hands the FS(Spy) is supposed to account for him. The Strong Safety stays over the top to help the DBs' and the LBs'(In 3-4) are supposed to hang back and Defense the Pass depending on which side the Protection "breaks down" while the other side makes a Beeline to interrupt the pass from the QB.

We get burned by it cause Manusky isn't up in the booth. Not because our Front 7 sucks, but because we cannot adjust to how the opponent sets their screen.

Spencer is right. Our front 7 is solid. Unfortunately they have no clue what to look for on the screen cause Manusky is on the field too. He only sees half the play.

I'm to the pont now that if Sing gets fired Manusky should be fired too. I do not want to promote anybody from this current coaching staff except for maybe Rathman. It's sad that we're at this point cause last year our Defense was stout. Now everyone just runs a screen instead of Running the ball and that's how their Backs get yards against us.

~Ceadder