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pasodoc9er
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Nah, you guys got it all wrong. BM(bigmike) stands for Big movement...if you get the
"drift". Okay, BM's bm is fine too.
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Sing IS NOT responsible for our many turnovers....especially the fumbles....unless he is telling the team to not hold onto the ball....which has cost us 4 if not 5 games
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pasodoc9er
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Handsome one, I have enjoyed reading many of your posts, but on this one amigo, we differ. True, BM never fumbled a ball, never threw an interception, never missed a block allowing Qb to be sacked, never missed a tackle...but a great coach....heck, even a middling coach teaches the fundamentals to his team first and foremost, before even the most elementary play is diagrammed and carried out. This all starts way back when these young kids come out of college, many with only 2 or 3 yrs under their belts, and ready or not, join the nfl.
It IS the coach's job, the HC especially, to be sure they are well skilled in running crisp routes, OL can read a blitz, HBs know how to carry the football, DBs know how to stay with their men, and centers/qbs know how to give and receive a snap. BM is short to absent on experience in most these elemental things...and that includes knowing when to take a knee on an intercepted pass. HC's job 101 is to make sure his entire team knows the fundamentals, knows how to play each and every position, knows what each and every guy is supposed to do on every play.
HC is also supposed to have had vast experience in calling plays to set up another play...whether on O or D , and let's face it...BM has had experience in none of the above. His lack of basic football knowledge (which many on this board have in abundance) is sadly lacking. Worst coach in nfl? Definitely. Worst prepared coach for his job? Absolutely. Chance from the outset of being successful with a woeful 3-5 yrs LB coaching experience under mikey noln, and no other coaching capacity...probably 100 to 1 against. Chance of learning on the job when their are Bellichicks, Dungys, and Paytons in the league? Way less than 1%. Chances of being inappropriately equipped and insufficiently trained to become successful? 99.9%.
Whose fault is/was it? Well, BM gets a pass here, and yorks, especially Jedi jed get full blame. BM's only early mistake was taking that golden chance that even he had to realize he was grossly unprepared for. Nah, i don't blame this on BM...hell, he just said yes( and i have often wondered how often he has regretted tarnishing an otherwise impeccable reputation). Nope, guapo, this isn't BMs fault, it is the fault of a kid born with a golden spoon in his mouth, who thot this was a Madden game, and never realized, maybe even to date, that it isn't . This is life in the big leagues, and it doesn't cotton to OTJ training. When you come to the bigs, you better be ready...and i mean that in every sense of the word: physically, mentally, and above all, you better have the requisite preparation for the job.
Jeez, jed is just a dang kid whose momma inheirited a team she didn't want and had no idea what it entailed. Putting first her hubby, then her kid in charge is just incredible. You would think someone with that much dough would have gotten professionals to do the coaching job, but no, they just fired our last successful coach and hired God only knows who(DE and a failed GM).
So sure BM isn't muffing the ball, missing blocks, missing reads....but he isn't aware of the need to know how all these things work, from the first elemental step to the most complicated play...because he was never taught. Had he been coaching the 10 or more yrs or so that he hit the motivational speaker trail, well, then, yeah, he would have had OTJ training. To accept the HC position with no background other than a LB coach seems the epitome of being set up to fail.
This may come as a surprise, but growing up, BM was a hero of mine. He has showed immensely poor judgement in accepting a job he wasn't remotely qualified for, and worse, staying on when it is apparent to all that he can't cut the mustard. If he has made one truly unforgiveable mistake it is in not accepting the fact he isn't HC material, and resigning with grace. Now all he does is go out and look foolish, then compounds things by showing up for his post game presser.
Hey, if he wins next two games(which i doubt) he will have climbed back up to the # of wins noln's last season produced, 2 of the first 8. That's why I say ONE and DONE...one more loss, and he is toast. The fact he isn't gone already merely shows the ineptness of the yorks. Jed as team president? Cripes, most of the guys on this board know more about the 9ers than the jedi.
So maybe BM didn't actually fumble that ball, but he sure as heck has fumbled managing this team. If he quits now with regrets, he will still salvage a bit of honor. But he won't and will take this team down to the lowest level imaginable. You would think the kid who was born with a golden spoon in his mouth might have noticed the above...unfortunately, he hasn't. And don't think this isn't a problem for the rest of the league. It is. Because all BM has done since being here is dumb down the 9ers, and that adversely affects each and every other team in the league. Somewhere, sometime, you would think the league will step in and say, "hey, why don't you hire parcells to give you some smarts in the management department?"
Sadly, they haven't.
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tondiman
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Originally posted by pasodoc9er:
Handsome one, I have enjoyed reading many of your posts, but on this one amigo, we differ. True, BM never fumbled a ball, never threw an interception, never missed a block allowing Qb to be sacked, never missed a tackle...but a great coach....heck, even a middling coach teaches the fundamentals to his team first and foremost, before even the most elementary play is diagrammed and carried out. This all starts way back when these young kids come out of college, many with only 2 or 3 yrs under their belts, and ready or not, join the nfl.
It IS the coach's job, the HC especially, to be sure they are well skilled in running crisp routes, OL can read a blitz, HBs know how to carry the football, DBs know how to stay with their men, and centers/qbs know how to give and receive a snap. BM is short to absent on experience in most these elemental things...and that includes knowing when to take a knee on an intercepted pass. HC's job 101 is to make sure his entire team knows the fundamentals, knows how to play each and every position, knows what each and every guy is supposed to do on every play.
HC is also supposed to have had vast experience in calling plays to set up another play...whether on O or D , and let's face it...BM has had experience in none of the above. His lack of basic football knowledge (which many on this board have in abundance) is sadly lacking. Worst coach in nfl? Definitely. Worst prepared coach for his job? Absolutely. Chance from the outset of being successful with a woeful 3-5 yrs LB coaching experience under mikey noln, and no other coaching capacity...probably 100 to 1 against. Chance of learning on the job when their are Bellichicks, Dungys, and Paytons in the league? Way less than 1%. Chances of being inappropriately equipped and insufficiently trained to become successful? 99.9%.
Whose fault is/was it? Well, BM gets a pass here, and yorks, especially Jedi jed get full blame. BM's only early mistake was taking that golden chance that even he had to realize he was grossly unprepared for. Nah, i don't blame this on BM...hell, he just said yes( and i have often wondered how often he has regretted tarnishing an otherwise impeccable reputation). Nope, guapo, this isn't BMs fault, it is the fault of a kid born with a golden spoon in his mouth, who thot this was a Madden game, and never realized, maybe even to date, that it isn't . This is life in the big leagues, and it doesn't cotton to OTJ training. When you come to the bigs, you better be ready...and i mean that in every sense of the word: physically, mentally, and above all, you better have the requisite preparation for the job.
Jeez, jed is just a dang kid whose momma inheirited a team she didn't want and had no idea what it entailed. Putting first her hubby, then her kid in charge is just incredible. You would think someone with that much dough would have gotten professionals to do the coaching job, but no, they just fired our last successful coach and hired God only knows who(DE and a failed GM).
So sure BM isn't muffing the ball, missing blocks, missing reads....but he isn't aware of the need to know how all these things work, from the first elemental step to the most complicated play...because he was never taught. Had he been coaching the 10 or more yrs or so that he hit the motivational speaker trail, well, then, yeah, he would have had OTJ training. To accept the HC position with no background other than a LB coach seems the epitome of being set up to fail.
This may come as a surprise, but growing up, BM was a hero of mine. He has showed immensely poor judgement in accepting a job he wasn't remotely qualified for, and worse, staying on when it is apparent to all that he can't cut the mustard. If he has made one truly unforgiveable mistake it is in not accepting the fact he isn't HC material, and resigning with grace. Now all he does is go out and look foolish, then compounds things by showing up for his post game presser.
Hey, if he wins next two games(which i doubt) he will have climbed back up to the # of wins noln's last season produced, 2 of the first 8. That's why I say ONE and DONE...one more loss, and he is toast. The fact he isn't gone already merely shows the ineptness of the yorks. Jed as team president? Cripes, most of the guys on this board know more about the 9ers than the jedi.
So maybe BM didn't actually fumble that ball, but he sure as heck has fumbled managing this team. If he quits now with regrets, he will still salvage a bit of honor. But he won't and will take this team down to the lowest level imaginable. You would think the kid who was born with a golden spoon in his mouth might have noticed the above...unfortunately, he hasn't. And don't think this isn't a problem for the rest of the league. It is. Because all BM has done since being here is dumb down the 9ers, and that adversely affects each and every other team in the league. Somewhere, sometime, you would think the league will step in and say, "hey, why don't you hire parcells to give you some smarts in the management department?"
Sadly, they haven't.
wow
I'll take it you didn't go out this week.
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pasodoc9er
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Actually Tondiman, i have harvested 34 tons of grapes, and made 8 tons of grapes into Syrah, Sauv Blanc and Pinot. This site is just a fun thing to read and relax...and occasionally render an opinion.
Oh, yeah, i forgot. I also wrote my blog for our Cerro Prieto Vineyard and Cellars last nite, at
www.cerroprietovineyard.com. Check it out. And yeah, i am out a lot.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Oct 16, 2010 at 11:05:25 ]
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pasodoc9er
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Okay, after the Raiders interlude, BM(bigmike) lost his another one, so now, he's done. Any arguments? How do we run the team? simple: let MJ run the O, and manusky the D. No interference from the only coach in football who doesn't know nor understand the meaning of knowing Xs and Os. Fire BM now. Get it done before this poor clown irreperably destroys this team. Get a real coach next yr, chosen by a HOFO, say, eg, Parcells, or a Loomis in NO. But no mas with Jed screwing this team for another 10 yrs. Get a HOFO on board now or at end of season, and let MJ and manusk run the team immediately, beginning in london. We have no GM. We sure as hell don't need a mental fumbler like BM ruining what is left of this team.
Not convinced? what did he do the moment we went ahead in 4th qtr. He went into a PREVENT O, in addition to a prevent D. That is a new nfl record. Fire BM the minute his plane touched down in london so he doesn't destroy what little this team has left. We cannot tolerate his incompetence any longer. Get him off the sidelines, out of the bldg, and do it while team is in London.
ONe and done is here. BM needs to get gone. NOW. We just lost to the only winless team in nfl, who averaged less than 10 pts a game. And they beat us, mainly due to our unimaginative, unskilled ,untrained, unqualified, and thoroughly incompetent and unprofessional HC. ONe and Done. One and done. Make it happen.
Anybody who doesn't agree with this, i ask you, "how many more does he have to lose? HOw much more does he have to destroy this team? How much longer does he dangle out there waiting to be fired? I say, do it now, and bring an end to this sheer folly and foolishness. It is awful to watch our team get outcoached each and every week. Please, end it now.
[ Edited by pasodoc9er on Oct 24, 2010 at 22:55:34 ]
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Kauaiguy
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As much as I like Mike Singletary, he's NOT ready to be a Head Coach. As was the case with Mike Nolan and all can see that the results are similar.
The first year was good because of the new body and the optimism that goes with having a new coach. But with little knowledge of the offense, it was bound to go downhill.
Unfortunately BOTH did not surround themselves with knowledgeable and successful Offensive coordinators, other than Turner who left for the Chargers. Certainly, he could have been replaced by someone better than that clown that Nolan replaced him with.
Singletary SHOULD have learned from that experience alone, but I guess STUBBORN is as STUBBORN does.
If you really think about it, even a Mike Martz would have this team doing a little better than it is now.
He did it HIS way and he's soon to find his way out the door if NOT before the end of the season.
[ Edited by Kauaiguy on Oct 25, 2010 at 00:01:53 ]
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pasodoc9er
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Well, Kaui, we can always hope for BM to get sacked right after the London game. If i were owner right now, i would wait until the team boarded the plane, and as BM handed his ticket the agent says, "sorry, your ticket has been cancelled." NOW that would show me some class....jed. Jed wouldn't have to fire him, and BM would have to find his own way home. Let him clean out his office late at nite, with a flashlight. Just so we don't ever have to see him again...that would be perfect...right after the london game. Adios.
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Kauaiguy
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Here's the problem: It's really NOT a good idea to fire him now and promote from within. Unless we're assured that the 49er's WILL interview EXPERIENCED candidates at the end of the season.
This interim HC will likely get the team fired up again to the point where they win a few games.
Fool me once (Mike Nolan), fool me twice (Mike Singletary) but let's hope it DOESN'T happen the 3rd time.
Winning a few games under a NEW head coach is nothing new because the team's spirit is back up again. It happens to every team there is. ... But the RAH, RAH, SIS, BOOM, BAH approach only lasts so long. Then it comes down to brass tactics and experience.
There WILL be a lot of good coaches looking for jobs at the end of the season. Several teams were expected to go far in to the playoffs this season are on the verge of not even making it.
At this point the 49er's should just settle for just finding a coach who can win the division. Once that's been accomplished then worry about the Superbowl.
[ Edited by Kauaiguy on Oct 25, 2010 at 23:31:14 ]
